Northwest Passage

[silverpig]

I was reading this story about the search for some old lost ships in the Canadian arctic and the article segued into talking about the northwest passage and Canada asserting its sovereignty over the route. I found this part interesting:

Canada says that the waterways of the Northwest Passage are Canadian rather than international waters - a view disputed by other countries, including the US and Britain.

Look at the map in the story. All those islands are Canada. How can that NOT be Canadian water? It's like saying the bloody Mississippi river is international water, or the Thames is international water.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: silverpig
I was reading this story about the search for some old lost ships in the Canadian arctic and the article segued into talking about the northwest passage and Canada asserting its sovereignty over the route. I found this part interesting:

Canada says that the waterways of the Northwest Passage are Canadian rather than international waters - a view disputed by other countries, including the US and Britain.

Look at the map in the story. All those islands are Canada. How can that NOT be Canadian water? It's like saying the bloody Mississippi river is international water, or the Thames is international water.

water tends to be international once it's 200 miles from shore.
Claiming what is essentially a good percentage of the Arctic Ocean is not the same as a river that runs through your country.

If that's the case, the US might as well claim the Eastern half of the Pacific Ocean since Hawaii and Alaska are out there.
I'd say, give Canada whatever part of the Arctic that is within 200 miles from the shore of all Canadian islands. Beyond that, it's international.
US will get a good share of the Arctic due to Alaska, and the shore that is near Alaska is supposedly rich in oil and natural gas... getting to it is the tricky part.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: silverpig
I was reading this story about the search for some old lost ships in the Canadian arctic and the article segued into talking about the northwest passage and Canada asserting its sovereignty over the route. I found this part interesting:

Canada says that the waterways of the Northwest Passage are Canadian rather than international waters - a view disputed by other countries, including the US and Britain.

Look at the map in the story. All those islands are Canada. How can that NOT be Canadian water? It's like saying the bloody Mississippi river is international water, or the Thames is international water.

water tends to be international once it's 200 miles from shore.
Claiming what is essentially a good percentage of the Arctic Ocean is not the same as a river that runs through your country.

If that's the case, the US might as well claim the Eastern half of the Pacific Ocean since Hawaii and Alaska are out there.
I'd say, give Canada whatever part of the Arctic that is within 200 miles from the shore of all Canadian islands. Beyond that, it's international.
US will get a good share of the Arctic due to Alaska, and the shore that is near Alaska is supposedly rich in oil and natural gas... getting to it is the tricky part.

Pretty much all of the Northwest Passage is 200 miles or less from shore of Canada....
Some Maps

 

[preslove]

$ and wars usually dictate the ownership of waterways.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: BurnItDwn

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: silverpig
I was reading this story about the search for some old lost ships in the Canadian arctic and the article segued into talking about the northwest passage and Canada asserting its sovereignty over the route. I found this part interesting:

Canada says that the waterways of the Northwest Passage are Canadian rather than international waters - a view disputed by other countries, including the US and Britain.

Look at the map in the story. All those islands are Canada. How can that NOT be Canadian water? It's like saying the bloody Mississippi river is international water, or the Thames is international water.

water tends to be international once it's 200 miles from shore.
Claiming what is essentially a good percentage of the Arctic Ocean is not the same as a river that runs through your country.

If that's the case, the US might as well claim the Eastern half of the Pacific Ocean since Hawaii and Alaska are out there.
I'd say, give Canada whatever part of the Arctic that is within 200 miles from the shore of all Canadian islands. Beyond that, it's international.
US will get a good share of the Arctic due to Alaska, and the shore that is near Alaska is supposedly rich in oil and natural gas... getting to it is the tricky part.

Pretty much all of the Northwest Passage is 200 miles or less from shore of Canada....
Some Maps

If that's the case, why is there any kind of issue? I'm pretty sure the UN has even stated all water within 200 miles from shore is under control by that State, and all water beyond is international waters.

 

[0roo0roo]

once we blow up ur tank the north west passage is whatever we say it is!

 

[Aquaman]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
once we blow up ur tank the north west passage is whatever we say it is!

We still have a row boat and Scuba Steve

Not to mention our fleet of Walrus and Narwhals

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[sandorski]

We've been breeding Beaver like Rabbits too.

 

[DieHardware]

Yes but can our beavers take out their killer rabbits?

 

[Psynaut]

I didn't read the article, and I don't know anything about international waters, but I believe that the US would claim ownership of the dark side of the moon if we thought that we were at risk of losing one pail full of resources to another country.

I read that China has plans to put a man on the moon by 2025. I would lay odds that the US has a plan in the works to get back there first and lay claim to any valuable resources that might exist there before any other country can beat us to it..

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: sandorski
We've been breeding Beaver like Rabbits too.

New Canadian National Anthem?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDs5oTZhncM

 

[dennilfloss]

Na. That would be this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWDXE9Pbjic&fmt=18

 

[ICRS]

Seeing how a significant portion of it goes by Alaska, then yes I do see how any one can dispute it is 100% Canada.

 

[HannibalX]

Originally posted by: silverpig
I was reading this story about the search for some old lost ships in the Canadian arctic and the article segued into talking about the northwest passage and Canada asserting its sovereignty over the route. I found this part interesting:

Canada says that the waterways of the Northwest Passage are Canadian rather than international waters - a view disputed by other countries, including the US and Britain.

Look at the map in the story. All those islands are Canada. How can that NOT be Canadian water? It's like saying the bloody Mississippi river is international water, or the Thames is international water.

It's only Canada's so long as they can enforce their claim on it. This is pretty much how things work.

 

[HaiBiss]

Isn't Canada part of the British Empire, NO? oh right they are the 51st state........

 

[compman25]

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

Originally posted by: silverpig
I was reading this story about the search for some old lost ships in the Canadian arctic and the article segued into talking about the northwest passage and Canada asserting its sovereignty over the route. I found this part interesting:

Canada says that the waterways of the Northwest Passage are Canadian rather than international waters - a view disputed by other countries, including the US and Britain.

Look at the map in the story. All those islands are Canada. How can that NOT be Canadian water? It's like saying the bloody Mississippi river is international water, or the Thames is international water.

It's only Canada's so long as they can enforce their claim on it. This is pretty much how things work.

That's a lot of area for 1 tank to protect.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: silverpig
I was reading this story about the search for some old lost ships in the Canadian arctic and the article segued into talking about the northwest passage and Canada asserting its sovereignty over the route. I found this part interesting:

Canada says that the waterways of the Northwest Passage are Canadian rather than international waters - a view disputed by other countries, including the US and Britain.

Look at the map in the story. All those islands are Canada. How can that NOT be Canadian water? It's like saying the bloody Mississippi river is international water, or the Thames is international water.

water tends to be international once it's 200 miles from shore.
Claiming what is essentially a good percentage of the Arctic Ocean is not the same as a river that runs through your country.

If that's the case, the US might as well claim the Eastern half of the Pacific Ocean since Hawaii and Alaska are out there.
I'd say, give Canada whatever part of the Arctic that is within 200 miles from the shore of all Canadian islands. Beyond that, it's international.
US will get a good share of the Arctic due to Alaska, and the shore that is near Alaska is supposedly rich in oil and natural gas... getting to it is the tricky part.

But Canada owns all the islands that surround the passage, and much of it is well within 200 miles of shore. Furthermore, international rulings allow for the claim of waters farther than 200 miles so long as they can be proven to be part of the same continental shelf (or whatever it's called) as the land owned by the country. This is the basis Russia is using for their claim to the north pole.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Aquaman

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
once we blow up ur tank the north west passage is whatever we say it is!

We still have a row boat and Scuba Steve

Not to mention our fleet of Walrus and Narwhals

Cheers,
Aquaman

Poison-tipped narwhals at that!

 

[imported_Champ]

its ours...stay away!!!

you have all seen the nice polite Canada...but if others keep trying to claim it, we will run your show

once again...it is ours...stay away!!!

 

[badkarma1399]

Originally posted by: Psynaut
I read that China has plans to put a man on the moon by 2025. I would lay odds that the US has a plan in the works to get back there first and lay claim to any valuable resources that might exist there before any other country can beat us to it..

I thought we already claimed it?? Link Its ours bitches, get your own. :evil: