North Korea Says Talks with U.S. Are Pointless

[Todd33]

SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea described President Bush Monday as a tyrannical political imbecile who put Adolf Hitler in the shade and said Pyongyang could see no justification for talks with his administration.

Six-party working-level talks on the communist North's nuclear weapons ambitions had been planned for August but have yet to materialize.

The September date for more senior talks is also in question, although diplomats note Pyongyang often raises its rhetorical voice before attending talks or compromising.

South Korea's foreign ministry said Monday its top nuclear negotiators would visit Beijing and Tokyo this week for consultations aimed at restarting the main talks.

In a strongly worded statement published by the official KCNA news agency, a North Korean Foreign Ministry spokesman said Bush had hurled "malignant slanders and calumnies" against Pyongyang's leadership under Kim Jong-il.

"This clearly proves that the DPRK was quite right when it commented that he is a political imbecile bereft of even elementary morality as a human being and a bad guy, much less being a politician," the spokesman said. "Bush is a tyrant that puts Hitler into the shade."

DPRK is short for the North's official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

Bush said in a presidential election campaign speech last Wednesday in Hudson, Wisconsin, he had made the decision to bring in other countries to help persuade the North to disarm.

"NO" COULD STILL MEAN "YES"

"I felt it was important to bring other countries into the mix, like China and Japan and South Korea and Russia, so there's now five countries saying to the tyrant in North Korea, disarm, disarm," he said.

The North Korean spokesman said it had been impossible to hold working-level talks between the two Koreas, China, Japan, Russia and the United States because of what he called hostile U.S. policy.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6045958

The saving grace of the USA is the ability to shed it's ineffective leaders every fours years. So don't give up hope on working on real threats and not just two-bit mid-east dictators who tried to kill your daddie.

 

[sMiLeYz]

We wouldnt be in this mess if it wasnt for Clinton!

 

[Genx87]

This is a prime example of what happens when you wish for the best.

 

[Vadatajs]

Originally posted by: Genx87
This is a prime example of what happens when you wish for the best.

Not necessarily; it's what happens when you prepare for the best and pray the worst won't happen. Faith-based foreign policy has failed us for 3.5 years now.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Genx87
This is a prime example of what happens when you wish for the best.

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: Vadatajs

Originally posted by: Genx87
This is a prime example of what happens when you wish for the best.

Not necessarily; it's what happens when you prepare for the best and pray the worst won't happen. Faith-based foreign policy has failed us for 3.5 years now.

:thumbsup:

 

[Whitecloak]

That description of dubya was real good and made me laugh. I guess it takes one to recognise the other.

 

[gururu]

It's a sad time when one of the worst leaders in the world is justified when talking smack about our own.

 

[maddogchen]

Originally posted by: gururu
It's a sad time when one of the worst leaders in the world is justified when talking smack about our own.

justified? I don't think so.

 

[Moonbeam]

Considering that the people of NK ear tree bark in the winter so some survive I would not completely rule out faith based diplomacy. I believe that the freedoms we idealize in our country and perhaps often fall far short of achieving in actuality none the less are genetically human in origin and all peoples everywhere long for their expression. I believe too that the leadership in NK is far more mentally ill and brain dead than any we have here and I think too that the presence of nuclear weapons in the hands of the insane creates an almost intractable problem. Some situations are best dealt with over long periods of time in which things like faith, organic human nature, act as a centripetal force constantly breaking, with the birth of each mentally pure child, the dominant insanity present in the culture. It may take longer then if one uses an antibiotic, but the body can still heal an infected wound. Americans watch too much TV and always want instant answers. This is an illness itself. My guess is that even as stupid as Bush is, if reelected, he won't make the Iraq mistake again. Lets try to have some faith in our slumbering human nature.

 

[AndrewR]

Originally posted by: Vadatajs

Originally posted by: Genx87
This is a prime example of what happens when you wish for the best.

Not necessarily; it's what happens when you prepare for the best and pray the worst won't happen. Faith-based foreign policy has failed us for 3.5 years now.

I'm sorry (actually not, just an expression), but could you be more ignorant about the Korean situation? Such a pithy and cute statement, but wholly inappropriate -- your sentiment is perfect, however, for Clinton's accord with NK in 1994. Relish the irony.

 

[Shame]

Originally posted by: maddogchen

Originally posted by: gururu
It's a sad time when one of the worst leaders in the world is justified when talking smack about our own.

justified? I don't think so.

I thought he was talking about Chirac for a moment there...

Sounds like Kim Jong Il isn't happy... It might be that Mr. Jong Il is unhappy that President Bush won't accept the, "I promise not to, I swear not to ... Take my word for it" nuclear agreement that the prior administration entered into in 1994.

 

[Vadatajs]

Originally posted by: AndrewR

Originally posted by: Vadatajs

Originally posted by: Genx87
This is a prime example of what happens when you wish for the best.

Not necessarily; it's what happens when you prepare for the best and pray the worst won't happen. Faith-based foreign policy has failed us for 3.5 years now.

I'm sorry (actually not, just an expression), but could you be more ignorant about the Korean situation? Such a pithy and cute statement, but wholly inappropriate -- your sentiment is perfect, however, for Clinton's accord with NK in 1994. Relish the irony.

See my sig for how you see the world. And pulling our troops out of South Korea is really a good idea.

I through with morons like you.

 

[Shame]

Originally posted by: Vadatajs

Originally posted by: AndrewR

Originally posted by: Vadatajs

Originally posted by: Genx87
This is a prime example of what happens when you wish for the best.

Not necessarily; it's what happens when you prepare for the best and pray the worst won't happen. Faith-based foreign policy has failed us for 3.5 years now.

I'm sorry (actually not, just an expression), but could you be more ignorant about the Korean situation? Such a pithy and cute statement, but wholly inappropriate -- your sentiment is perfect, however, for Clinton's accord with NK in 1994. Relish the irony.

See my sig for how you see the world. And pulling our troops out of South Korea is really a good idea.

I through with morons like you.

And putting MORE troops on a potential nuclear battlefield is intelligent? You sir, are the moron.

 

[Zephyr106]

Originally posted by: AndrewR

Originally posted by: Vadatajs

Originally posted by: Genx87
This is a prime example of what happens when you wish for the best.

Not necessarily; it's what happens when you prepare for the best and pray the worst won't happen. Faith-based foreign policy has failed us for 3.5 years now.

I'm sorry (actually not, just an expression), but could you be more ignorant about the Korean situation? Such a pithy and cute statement, but wholly inappropriate -- your sentiment is perfect, however, for Clinton's accord with NK in 1994. Relish the irony.

Please explain how faith based warfare has worked in the previous 3.5 years.

Zephyr

 

[arsbanned]

Hmm, I wonder if we can still get him on the ballot.

Please explain how faith based warfare has worked in the previous 3.5 years.

Yes, I'd like to get that explanation too.
kthnxby

 

[tallest1]

Originally posted by: Shame

Originally posted by: Vadatajs

Originally posted by: AndrewR

Originally posted by: Vadatajs

Originally posted by: Genx87
This is a prime example of what happens when you wish for the best.

Not necessarily; it's what happens when you prepare for the best and pray the worst won't happen. Faith-based foreign policy has failed us for 3.5 years now.

I'm sorry (actually not, just an expression), but could you be more ignorant about the Korean situation? Such a pithy and cute statement, but wholly inappropriate -- your sentiment is perfect, however, for Clinton's accord with NK in 1994. Relish the irony.

See my sig for how you see the world. And pulling our troops out of South Korea is really a good idea.

I through with morons like you.

And putting MORE troops on a potential nuclear battlefield is intelligent? You sir, are the moron.

According to Bush, Iraq was a potential nuclear battlefiled. You sir, are the moron.

 

[Shame]

Originally posted by: tallest1

Originally posted by: Shame

Originally posted by: Vadatajs

Originally posted by: AndrewR

Originally posted by: Vadatajs

Originally posted by: Genx87
This is a prime example of what happens when you wish for the best.

Not necessarily; it's what happens when you prepare for the best and pray the worst won't happen. Faith-based foreign policy has failed us for 3.5 years now.

I'm sorry (actually not, just an expression), but could you be more ignorant about the Korean situation? Such a pithy and cute statement, but wholly inappropriate -- your sentiment is perfect, however, for Clinton's accord with NK in 1994. Relish the irony.

See my sig for how you see the world. And pulling our troops out of South Korea is really a good idea.

I through with morons like you.

And putting MORE troops on a potential nuclear battlefield is intelligent? You sir, are the moron.

According to Bush, Iraq was a potential nuclear battlefiled. You sir, are the moron.

Topic was North Korea and Jong Il, no? You sir are an off topic moron.

 

[rextilleon]

Bush is incapable of negotiating with our allies--How do you expect him to negotiate with our enemies--a country ruled by a madman!

 

[Shame]

Originally posted by: rextilleon
Bush is incapable of negotiating with our allies--How do you expect him to negotiate with our enemies--a country ruled by a madman!

I can only imagine your possible solutions:

1. Unconditional surrender to North Korea?
2. Enter AGAIN into the same 1994 agreement?
3. Send them aid so they can divert other monies to "defense"?
4. A mental health referral for Jong Il? Counseling?
5. United Nations help? Puleease.....

 

[colonel]

when was it? yes last summer in Texas, Rumsfeld said the USA can afford to fight two wars at the time.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: tallest1

Originally posted by: Shame

Originally posted by: Vadatajs

Originally posted by: AndrewR

Originally posted by: Vadatajs

Originally posted by: Genx87
This is a prime example of what happens when you wish for the best.

Not necessarily; it's what happens when you prepare for the best and pray the worst won't happen. Faith-based foreign policy has failed us for 3.5 years now.

I'm sorry (actually not, just an expression), but could you be more ignorant about the Korean situation? Such a pithy and cute statement, but wholly inappropriate -- your sentiment is perfect, however, for Clinton's accord with NK in 1994. Relish the irony.

See my sig for how you see the world. And pulling our troops out of South Korea is really a good idea.

I through with morons like you.

And putting MORE troops on a potential nuclear battlefield is intelligent? You sir, are the moron.

According to Bush, Iraq was a potential nuclear battlefiled. You sir, are the moron.

Iraq's conventional forces weren't quite up to par with NKs, nor did Saddam breed generations of people to hate all outsiders. No doubt there was and still is hatred of the US in Iraq, but I'd hazard to say on a much lower level. I do find it quite sad that anyone would quote and grandstand about someone comparing the President to Hitler. For all of Bush's faults he certainly compares nowhere near Hitler. But hey, I haven't seen Todd post anything but hateful drivel, and he's yet to respond to one of my posts calling him on such divisiveness.(The post where he said only jagged-tooth rednecks support Bush, and then proceeded to be quite arrogant and insulting to those of the lower classes). I thought you'd embrace the lower classes, Todd? I guess only when they vote for your candidate. That's quite hypocritical I might add, not only for being stereotypical, but for being all for stereotypes when they help discredit your detractors. Bravo!

 

[jjzelinski]

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
We wouldnt be in this mess if it wasnt for Clinton!

Yes, blast that dastardly Clinton and all his meddling! If it weren't for Herr Shrub's policy of non-any-kind-of-attention-whatsover we might be in a pickle!

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: rextilleon
Bush is incapable of negotiating with our allies--How do you expect him to negotiate with our enemies--a country ruled by a madman!

How would you go about negotiating with the NK's? What concessions would you make to them regarding aid and inspections of their nuclear facilities? I'm all ears for a workable solution. As I see it there is no concession we could make that wouldn't undermine our original intent of disarming NK of possible Nuclear weapons, and securing their facilities.

 

[Shame]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: rextilleon
Bush is incapable of negotiating with our allies--How do you expect him to negotiate with our enemies--a country ruled by a madman!

How would you go about negotiating with the NK's? What concessions would you make to them regarding aid and inspections of their nuclear facilities? I'm all ears for a workable solution. As I see it there is no concession we could make that wouldn't undermine our original intent of disarming NK of possible Nuclear weapons, and securing their facilities.

And I even made a list of possible solutions, so he wouldn't have to think...