Nope...no reason at all why you should lock your guns up at home.

[JulesMaximus]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40950411/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

Cops: School gunman used father's gun
Authorities say 17-year-old had been suspended from classes the day of the shooting

OMAHA, Nebraska — Police say the teenager who opened fire at his Nebraska high school used a gun owned by his father, a detective for the Omaha Police Department.

Authorities say Robert Butler Jr. was escorted out of Millard South High School Wednesday morning after meeting with Assistant Principal Vicki Kaspar. Butler returned Wednesday afternoon and shot Kaspar and Principal Curtis Case. Kaspar later died at a hospital, and Case remains in stable condition. After the shooting, Butler was found dead in his car about a mile away from the school.

The assistant principal later died. The principal was hospitalized in serious condition.

Investigators say the gun was probably the service weapon carried by Butler's father, a .40-caliber semiautomatic pistol that can fire up to 15 rounds. Butler fired seven rounds.

Police say the teenager who opened fire at his Nebraska high school used a gun owned by his father, a detective for the Omaha Police Department.

Butler had transferred in the fall from a school in Lincoln, about 50 miles away. He had been cited on New Year's Day for criminal trespassing after driving his car on the school's football field and track, police said.

Butler was called out of class at 8:10 a.m. Wednesday to meet with Assistant Principal Vicki Kaspar. After the two talked in her office, he was escorted out of the school at 9:23 a.m. police said.

Butler walked back into the school's main entrance at 12:45 p.m. and signed in at the office to meet with Kaspar. Police said he had been in her office about four minutes with the door closed before he shot Kaspar. Butler than shot Principal Curtis Case.

Police said an unarmed security officer was sitting at a desk outside the offices and saw Butler walking away. Butler pointed a gun at the officer, who took cover and wasn't shot.

Butler also fired at a custodian and missed, and bullet fragments apparently hit a school nurse, who was treated at the scene.

A school resource officer who heard the gunfire called police.

The security officer gave police Butler's name and described his car, and at 1:35 p.m. authorities received a report of a suspicious vehicle about a mile from the school. Officers raced to the car and found Butler inside, dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

The chaos unfolded on the school's first day back in session after the holiday break.

Kaspar, 58, died Wednesday evening. Case, 45, was hospitalized in serious but stable condition.

Sometime after he was escorted out of the building, Butler posted a rambling message on Facebook about his unhappiness with his new school, but he didn't supply many details. Instead, the expletive-laced note predicted Butler's friends would hear about "evil things" he did.

He wrote that the Omaha school was worse than his previous one, and that the new city had changed him. He apologized and said he wanted people to remember him for who he was before affecting "the lives of the families I ruined." The post ended with "goodbye."

A former classmate of Butler's from Lincoln confirmed the Facebook post to The Associated Press and provided AP with a copy of it.

 

[shortylickens]

Thats nice.

 

[ShawnD1]

You see, you're not getting it. I bought those guns to keep my family safe. You'll notice the article doesn't say he shot his family members. He shot other people. The gun did its job just fine. Quit yer bitchin.


Same concept behind women who drive a full size SUV. If you suck at driving, you drive a heavier vehicle to keep your family safe. Then when you rear end a Honda Civic because you were trying to apply your makeup and didn't see the lights change, it's the family in the Honda Civic that dies while the family in the SUV only has minor injuries.

Amerika :thumbsup:

 

[JulesMaximus]

You see, you're not getting it. I bought those guns to keep my family safe. You'll notice the article doesn't say he shot his family members. He shot other people. The gun did its job just fine. Quit yer bitchin.


Same concept behind women who drive a full size SUV. If you suck at driving, you drive a heavier vehicle to keep your family safe. Then when you rear end a Honda Civic because you were trying to apply your makeup and didn't see the lights change, it's the family in the Honda Civic that dies while the family in the SUV only has minor injuries.

Amerika :thumbsup:

But...the kid shot himself so really the guns didn't keep the gun owner's family safe.

 

[highland145]

It's apparent that the kid had serious disciplinary problems before so I agree with Jules this time.

 

[vi edit]

Damn. I used to live about 3 miles from that school. It was probably one of the most sought after public school districts in Omaha.

 

[lord_emperor]

Doesn't mention how he got the gun.

Pretty sure a pissed off 17 year old is capable of stealing keys or possibly smashing the lock with a hammer.

 

[spidey07]

A locked up gun is a useless gun. Keep one on each floor, easily accessible known only by family that lives there, condition 1.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Doesn't mention how he got the gun.

Pretty sure a pissed off 17 year old is capable of stealing keys or possibly smashing the lock with a hammer.

He could smash all day at my gun safe and not gain access to the guns I own.

 

[shiner]

Sure, blame the gun instead of the psychopath that used them to kill innocent people.

 

[exdeath]

And what's to stop him from stealing the keys, breaking the lock, etc?

 

[ShawnD1]

But...the kid shot himself so really the guns didn't keep the gun owner's family safe.

lol. I only read the first paragraph where it said he brought a gun to school.

 

[halik]

At least Darwin won at the end.

Also there's nothing more important than what goes on by these lockers in highschool.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmrgXdjFaoQ

 

[Brainonska511]

And what's to stop him from stealing the keys, breaking the lock, etc?

Who said it has to be a lock with a key? It could be a biometric lock, combination lock, etc...

 

[JulesMaximus]

Sure, blame the gun instead of the psychopath that used them to kill innocent people.

Won't someone think of the guns? FREE THE GUNS!!!

 

[Brigandier]

A locked up gun is a useless gun. Keep one on each floor, easily accessible known only by family that lives there, condition 1.

This, unfortunately. If you have a bunch of guns, lock up most and only keep the ones you'd use unlocked. Keep them hidden somewhere accessible and check them daily to protect against theft.

 

[shiner]

Won't someone think of the guns? FREE THE GUNS!!!

I have most of my guns in a gun safe. However there are 3 handguns, a shotgun and a .22 rifle that are in various locations throughout the house. My kids know not to mess with any of them and that they are tools, not toys. They do know how to use them should the need arise, but they do not touch them otherwise.

 

[exdeath]

He could smash all day at my gun safe and not gain access to the guns I own.

I could have broken into your safe when I was 17. Thermite is easy to make, and acetylene torches aren't hard to get either, when you are at work for 8 hours. Where there is a will there is a way.

 

[purbeast0]

wow that is one of the worst written articles i've read in a long long time.

it told us at least 3 times that the assistant principle died and the principal was hospitalized.

 

[ShawnD1]

Sure, blame the gun instead of the psychopath that used them to kill innocent people.

A little bit of this as well. My parents would leave their car keys on a little peg right next to the door - they assumed that my brother and I wouldn't jack the car and drive it through the garage wall, which we could easily do if we were so inclined.


Coolest setup I've seen so far is my uncle's farm house. He has a gun rack right next to the door and all of the bullets are kept in a dresser a few steps away. Guns like the shotgun already have shells inside them and all you need to do is pump it.
It's a farm - you see a wolf and you shoot it. You see a flying saucer - you shoot it. When there's nothing to shoot at, you shoot at tree trunks because it sounds really cool.

 

[vi edit]

I have most of my guns in a gun safe. However there are 3 handguns, a shotgun and a .22 rifle that are in various locations throughout the house. My kids know not to mess with any of them and that they are tools, not toys. They do know how to use them should the need arise, but they do not touch them otherwise.

Same for my household growing up. I think my birthday gift when I was 5 was a bolt action .22 rifle from my grandpa. My dad had hunting rifles and shotguns hanging on multiple walls and in the closet and a few handguns in some dresser drawers. I knew from a really early age what they were and what they did. You also *NEVER* touched one unless Dad handed it to you.

But I also wasn't an undisciplined little shithead either...

 

[highland145]

It's a farm - you see a wolf and you shoot it. You see a flying saucer - you shoot it. When there's nothing to shoot at, you shoot at tree trunks because it sounds really cool.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[Numenorean]

At 17 he could easily unlock any guns anyway, so that probably wouldn't have mattered.

 

[ShawnD1]

Same for my household growing up. I think my birthday gift when I was 5 was a bolt action .22 rifle from my grandpa.

Most of us had pretty dangerous childhoods. I was using power tools when I was in elementary. Only tool I couldn't use was the circular saw because it's too dangerous. I could shoot a .22 but I was not allowed to use a saw.

 

[highland145]

Most of us had pretty dangerous childhoods. I was using power tools when I was in elementary. Only tool I couldn't use was the circular saw because it's too dangerous. I could shoot a .22 but I was not allowed to use a saw.

Lawn darts, ftw