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CDC says don't need to quarantine if you're fully vac'd, but still follow other precautions.
Eh, the CDC has been issuing directives for ~ a year already that are very much, WTH are they thinking? I don't consider them to be, shall we say, all over this?
CDC says don't need to quarantine if you're fully vac'd, but still follow other precautions.
Eh, the CDC has been issuing directives for ~ a year already that are very much, WTH are they thinking? I don't consider them to be, shall we say, all over this?
In this particular case, I'll just say this: They don't have data indicating that being vaccinated prevents you from becoming a spreader of this virus. What I've heard is conjecture, really nothing more. The vaccines prevent you getting seriously ill and dying, that we know in terms of percent efficacy figures published.
So, this is just putting more vaccine in the same vials?
So, this is just putting more vaccine in the same vials?
Why didn't they put more in to begin with?
People bitch more about things being mandatory but they comply at much higher rates. I really don't mean it has to be a government mandate, but want to cruise or get on an airplane, yup? School, yup. Work, yup.I would not go that hard right away, a lot of the antivaxxers think it's the mark of the beast or it has a chip etc. By making it mandatory (which that basically would be doing) it kind of reinforces their way of thinking and might even cause people who are on the fence to start being skeptical about it too. I think the more voluntary something is the less people are resistant about it.
What they could do though is if there is not enough uptake and it is actually problematic, then start requiring the vaccine OR a negative test for more things. That would mean if you don't have the vaccine you need to get tested very often. At some point more people might just give in and get the vaccine.
As a totally random note I saw a wifi network the other day that said "5G covid-19 test tower". I thought that was amusing.
Yes, the shipping container is regulated too. You have no idea how the original limit was set or what concerns there may be about more. So you have no idea if this is over regulation or not.Is it just me or is this not an over the top example of over-regulation? We are in a race against a mutating virus and some bureaucrat needs to sign off on how full to fill the vials?
I assume they don't ship these one at a time. Do they regulate how many vials go in a box?
Is it just me or is this not an over the top example of over-regulation? We are in a race against a mutating virus and some bureaucrat needs to sign off on how full to fill the vials?
Folks can't travel back home for the lunar new year and they are not happy.
Lunar New Year: Heartbreak and anger as China discourages "nonessential" trips | CNN Travel
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It took what a couple weeks? That's pretty quick and it will take Moderna and their contractors up to 10 weeks to adjust the fill volumes anyway. The delay doesn't seem that material to me. And yes if you're under an EUA for a vaccine you must get approval for any changes to what you are doing and it should be that way.
I am not sure who is or should be the final arbitrator of whether it "should be that way" or not, but it is probably not you, and for sure not me.
If the universe should somehow tilt and we are made the arbitrators, you would receive no argument from me if you chose to wait an additional two weeks for your vaccination.
Personally, I would forgo the government stamp and the waiting period. I guess someone considers me in the high risk group and put me on the waiting list for the next batch of vaccinations. If necessary, I would allow my place in line to be used by those I care about and get back in line. I still figure I'm a bit harder to kill than most.
If I felt there was some undisclosed factor that only allowed a government employee to determine the safe fill level of a vial, I would reconsider. It seems that the folks who developed and produced these vaccines can somehow handle filling the vial.
I heard (from cousin's daughter on family zoom call) that Pfizer covid-19 vaccine in shipment has temperature sensing GPS devices attached to shipping containers that constantly monitor the temperature inside the cases and upload the data, thus insuring compliance with the deep deep freeze they require. Is this true? I haven't heard about this anywhere else.It took what a couple weeks? That's pretty quick and it will take Moderna and their contractors up to 10 weeks to adjust the fill volumes anyway. The delay doesn't seem that material to me. And yes if you're under an EUA for a vaccine you must get approval for any changes to what you are doing and it should be that way.
meh, we essentially skipped all 3 of those holidays this year. sure, it sucks....but let's just watch the next 9 months unfold and I'd wager we'll be much better off.
I heard (from cousin's daughter on family zoom call) that Pfizer covid-19 vaccine in shipment has temperature sensing GPS devices attached to shipping containers that constantly monitor the temperature inside the cases and upload the data, thus insuring compliance with the deep deep freeze they require. Is this true? I haven't heard about this anywhere else.
There are millions of Chinese that work away from home, they only go back on Chinese New Years so it is a big deal. Not saying they should travel.
There are millions of Chinese that work away from home, they only go back on Chinese New Years so it is a big deal. Not saying they should travel.
Last time I was sick was also Nov. 2019. I had to wonder later if it was Covid-19, but it seems unlikely. Possible, yes. I was in Northern California. I was pretty sick for weeks. Upper respiratory. I figured I picked it up at a Best Buy, I was shopping laptops and messing with the keyboards, then ate a packaged Nature Valley bar without washing hands, something I would NEVER do now.Where I got it? Likely Home Depot or Walmart. Guidelines are a load of overoptimistic bullshit.
Now, the real question for me was that in November of 2019, I felt like this but WORSE in a very similar manner. So, I cannot know now, but maybe I got it back then too and this is my second go around with this illness. Definitely not as worse as that experience in November 2019, where I felt like napping nearly 2 weeks straight and felt off until like January of 2020.
Given current evidence on the circulation of COVID-19, I can pretty much guarantee that you didn't have it in Nov 2019.Now, the real question for me was that in November of 2019, I felt like this but WORSE in a very similar manner. So, I cannot know now, but maybe I got it back then too and this is my second go around with this illness. Definitely not as worse as that experience in November 2019, where I felt like napping nearly 2 weeks straight and felt off until like January of 2020.
For me, I remain suspicious that it was COVID because these current symptoms are like what I had in Nov 2019 but more manageable and less severe. I was knocked into prolonged sleepiness for two weeks in Nov 2019, did not even want to look at my phone's email or text messages because it was mentally "annoying". Walking up the steps, especially carrying something become a really tiring chore and I[m out of breath fast. I felt off for months, not feeling fully "revitalized" until maybe July 2020. I had tunnel vision levels of concentration and an heightened level of irritability.Last time I was sick was also Nov. 2019. I had to wonder later if it was Covid-19, but it seems unlikely. Possible, yes. I was in Northern California. I was pretty sick for weeks. Upper respiratory. I figured I picked it up at a Best Buy, I was shopping laptops and messing with the keyboards, then ate a packaged Nature Valley bar without washing hands, something I would NEVER do now.
What guidelines were you following?
The guidelines are designed more to quell the pandemic than guarantee that you personally won't get the virus, keep that in mind. 6 feet SD accomplishes the former, not the latter.
I understand why you suspect covid-19 in Nov. 2019. Indeed it's been revealed that it was here earlier than they earlier said it was. Of course, they didn't even know the problem at the time, and I think that was Dec. 2019. Could it have been here in Nov.? I don't know the answer. Have you run this stuff by a good doctor? Many doctors are all over this. I suppose that most are not, they are busy people, but many doctors are spending a lot of their time investigating, following the pandemic, as is evidenced by the Youtube video culture around them. Dozens and dozens of videos by some of them. You might find a doctor who's likewise astute that you can see personally.For me, I remain suspicious that it was COVID because these current symptoms are like what I had in Nov 2019 but more manageable and less severe. I was knocked into prolonged sleepiness for two weeks in Nov 2019, did not even want to look at my phone's email or text messages because it was mentally "annoying". Walking up the steps, especially carrying something become a really tiring chore and I[m out of breath fast. I felt off for months, not feeling fully "revitalized" until maybe July 2020. I had tunnel vision levels of concentration and an heightened level of irritability.
This time sure feels like a second go around and less severe. I've got about 2 hours of "normal" stamina after I wake up, with the chest being "fluttery". Noontime, the fatigue starts setting in and definitely by 3pm, I want to lay down and nap. Irritability and shorter fuse is present again. I'm tired walking up stairs especially with even a mere 8lb load. I must be one of the unluckiest people in the world to have contracted two diseases with nearly identical symptoms or it's a reinfection, and while living the life of a hermit.
I know it isn't the flu because I am negative plus the flu loves clogging up my sinuses, getting the nose runny, making everything stuffy, and actually enhancing my ability to stay awake in the late stages of infection when my immune system starts winning. Gross yellow and salty mucus come out when the battle is nearly won. I have no congestion. No coughing. No feeling that my nasal tissue is abnormal at all both now or in Nov 2019.
Masks always on, keep time in public places as short as possible, avoid peak hours. No talking whatsoever since I'm around complete strangers when in a Home Depot or Walmart. I'm nervous and skittish when close to people, so wanting to stay far away is an extremely natural instinct for me. Following the guidelines is natural to me with no change in routine.
I've presumed this virus is a tough SOB and that the official infos have always underestimated its toughness.
I had no employment by Nov 2019 because of hand laceration. I then got another laceration in spring 2020.