NON_POLITICAL China Coronavirus THREAD

[zinfamous]

"If I were in power I would have done better!" Where have we heard this before?

Honestly there is nothing the leaders could have done. You're talking about an economy built on trillions upon trillions of dollars - were not even 3 months into this and people are expecting to go another 6 months minimum? Yeah that's nuts.

The best thing we could have is media that isn't hell-bent on being as fearmongering as humanly possible.

Actual real world examples of other actual countries are plain evidence that you are fundamentally wrong about this ridiculous assumption.

The most common them among the worst-off countries during this entire pandemic: ultra right authoritarian and authoritarian-wannabee regimes. It's uncanny.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

eff no.

I said young and healthy, not old and in denial

 

[snoopy7548]

But until then.... no one can pay rent/mortgages (10+ year highs of not paying), there are 5 new businesses filing for bankruptcy each week... and.... Everything is totally calm and cool lol

Hold together guys! We only have *flips page*... 6 more months!

The best thing we could have is media that isn't hell-bent on being as fearmongering as humanly possible.

Yep... makes sense...

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Actual real world examples of other actual countries are plain evidence that you are fundamentally wrong about this ridiculous assumption.

The most common them among the worst-off countries during this entire pandemic: ultra right authoritarian and authoritarian-wannabee regimes. It's uncanny.

So go ahead and give me a breakdown of how easy it is to keep every American with a suitable amount of money - but also prevent businesses from dying and everyone losing their job.

Suffice it to say, the economy doesn't have a pause button. Rent, mortgages, and bills still have to be paid - not just for individuals but also for businesses.

 

[ponyo]

So go ahead and give me a breakdown of how easy it is to keep every American with a suitable amount of money - but also prevent businesses from dying and everyone losing their job.

Suffice it to say, the economy doesn't have a pause button. Rent, mortgages, and bills still have to be paid - not just for individuals but also for businesses.

You're buying into the fear mongering. The economy is hurting but it's not as bad as you think. You think all these people are missing rent and mortgage payments and thinking the sky is falling. But did you look at the rent and mortgage numbers before covid-19? Even during the good times, like 15% of the renters are always late with their rent payments. That doesn't mean the world is ending. Most of these people end up paying late by the 15th when eviction notices get filed. That happens like every month. They pay the late fee and catch back up.

The poor is not the economy.

 

[K1052]

People are paying rent because of the $600/wk UI boost.

 

[mopardude87]

This is insane, if this has been posted please feel free to remove mods thanks. Article dated the 18th of June.

Over 230 members of Lighthouse Pentecostal Church in Oregon get COVID-19

A church in eastern Oregon that defied the governor’s stay-at-home order has become the state’s hot spot for new cases of COVID-19.

www.washingtontimes.com

 

[KMFJD]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1275200079993987080

EXCLUSIVE: Feds About To Bail On Supporting COVID Testing Sites In Texas And Other States

The Trump administration is ending funding and support for local COVID-19 testing sites around the country this month, as cases...

talkingpointsmemo.com

doesn't look good in Texas

 

[Homerboy]

Well, I can see someone suing if the name got out and it negatively impacted the person due to people wrongly assuming the person did something particularly egregious or irresponsible.

I guess jumping to that thought myself only demonstrates why HIPPA is needed.

Oh yeah, I totally get and fully appreciate why HIPPA exists. I'm just saying that in some circumstances, like highly infectious diseases, it seems like there could be reason to be told who it is so you know how much exposure you've had.

 

[MrSquished]

The death rate is just one metric, but there are serious complications that result from Covid, even in younger patients. This article talks about it:

What they don’t tell you about surviving COVID-19

Most people who catch the new coronavirus don’t experience severe symptoms, and some...

www.sfgate.com

 

[Red Squirrel]

Yeah and this is still early. Wonder what else they will discover in 1 or even 10 years from now. If this is causing permanent damage it's probably also knocking years off your life as you are more likely to have related complications later.

 

[Svnla]

Friends in Louisiana say they will stay at Phase 2 and not into Phase 3 per the Governor because of new cases.

 

[Svnla]

Actual real world examples of other actual countries are plain evidence that you are fundamentally wrong about this ridiculous assumption.

The most common them among the worst-off countries during this entire pandemic: ultra right authoritarian and authoritarian-wannabee regimes. It's uncanny.

You mean like NYC? Still with the highest number of deaths.

CA is climbing fast too -

California Hits New High In COVID-19 Hospitalizations

Officials attribute at least part of the rise to a decline in social distancing as people venture out into the world again. The majority of new cases are in Southern California and the Central Valley.

www.npr.org

Oh wait. LOL.

Uncanny indeed. Uh huh.

 

[nakedfrog]

You mean like NYC? Still with the highest number of deaths.

CA is climbing fast too -

California Hits New High In COVID-19 Hospitalizations

Officials attribute at least part of the rise to a decline in social distancing as people venture out into the world again. The majority of new cases are in Southern California and the Central Valley.

www.npr.org

Oh wait. LOL.

Uncanny indeed. Uh huh.

I wasn't aware they had become countries?

 

[Svnla]

I wasn't aware they had become countries?

But I thought blue areas should be MUCH MUCH better than red areas because how ultra right authoritarian red areas are, right?

 

[nakedfrog]

But I thought blue areas should be MUCH MUCH better than red areas because how ultra right authoritarian red areas are, right?

I don't think I care to engage in this particular flavor of stupidity this fine afternoon, I bid you good day, sir!

 

[Svnla]

I don't think I care to engage in this particular flavor of stupidity this fine afternoon, I bid you good day, sir!

Hey, you quoted me first so I replied in kind. Same to you.

 

[CZroe]

Actual real world examples of other actual countries are plain evidence that you are fundamentally wrong about this ridiculous assumption.

The most common them among the worst-off countries during this entire pandemic: ultra right authoritarian and authoritarian-wannabee regimes. It's uncanny.

Spain, Italy, China, Venezuela...

 

[K1052]

Abbott continues to very slowly back up in TX. Local governments can restrict outdoor gatherings to 100 people, new rules for childcare facilities coming. Not nearly enough to but the brakes what's going down now.

 

[CZroe]

I wasn't aware they had become countries?

Imagine.

If California were a country it would have the fifth largest economy in the world so it does seem possibly relevant.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Abbott continues to very slowly back up in TX. Local governments can restrict outdoor gatherings to 100 people, new rules for childcare facilities coming. Not nearly enough to but the brakes what's going down now.

Looks like they are declaring that school will re-open in the fall. We will see if thats true when it actually gets closer:

Texas students will return to school campuses this fall, Gov. Greg Abbott tells lawmakers

Abbott notified lawmakers of the plan during a conference call Thursday.

www.texastribune.org

 

[Scarpozzi]

Considerable confidence from Fauci that we'll get an effective vaccine.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1275457267580784640

My understanding is that there are 2-3 different ways they're attacking the virus in the vaccines. This is good because viruses aren't exactly that easy to make vaccines for... I'm sure they'll be able to come up with a vaccine...my concern is that mutations will make them less effective and no one knows how long immunity will last.

 

[K1052]

Looks like they are declaring that school will re-open in the fall. We will see if thats true when it actually gets closer:

Texas students will return to school campuses this fall, Gov. Greg Abbott tells lawmakers

Abbott notified lawmakers of the plan during a conference call Thursday.

www.texastribune.org

Yeah I dunno about that. They've already had to re-suspend athletic programs at the high schools here as people participating are getting the virus.

My expectation is that the governor will toss the responsibility on the local school districts to decide if they are going to have traditional classes.

 

[Captante]

I'm still hoping for at least a condensed baseball season ... despite yesterdays agreement however I'm not feeling all that optimistic with the continued spread.

 

[K1052]

My understanding is that there are 2-3 different ways they're attacking the virus in the vaccines. This is good because viruses aren't exactly that easy to make vaccines for... I'm sure they'll be able to come up with a vaccine...my concern is that mutations will make them less effective and no one knows how long immunity will last.

This thing is getting hit by at least six different platforms making up over 100 vaccine candidates. This particular virus doesn't appear to be particularly elusive as the spike protein isn't prone to significant mutation according to research so far. Immunity durability is an open question and it's possible first generation vaccines will require annual boosters, which is a very manageable problem.