NOLF 2 , Terribly long load times...

CrowDog

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Im getting load times of up to 5min!!! This is out of control, how come other games load fast and this one takes so long? My hdd light comes on during loading and flickers....is it possible that a faster harddrive would help? What could the game be doing to take so long to load?

BF1942 is another game that takes along time to load for me....but NOLF is a bit longer
 

VBboy

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LOL, sorry.. 5 minutes...

I tried that game but really didn't like it. However, it loaded in a matter of seconds. Either you have a really slow PC, very little RAM, or something is wrong with it. Not even 100% fragmentation could cause your type of problem.
 

CrowDog

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My PC:

XP 1700+
256 Crucial DDR
esc k7s5a
Radeon 8500 64mb ddr
Win XP Pro
Maxtor 20gb 5400 rpm...couple years old

Just Defragmented

It doesent take that long to load every time..thats about the longest its taken...but I can say its almost never quicker than a full minute:(
 

VBboy

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My guess is, it tries to load something into memory, but windows starts swapping it out to the page file. Then the game unloads that data, and Windows shrinks the swap file. Who knows ;) Defrag your swap file (you may need to turn it off first).

UT2003 sucked with 256 MB. I have 512 now.
 

RSMemphis

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Ack, 256MB and Windows XP for NOLF2 is terrible.

I played it under Windows 2000 (which is more memory friendly) and I restarted NOLF2 ever so often, because I started hitting the swap file.
Apparently the Lithtech Jupiter engine has a memory leak...

Anyway, switch to 98/2000, or drop in an extra 512 MB.

I sometimes had the game freeze in the middle of a mission when I hit the page file. (Time to restart the game ;))
 

CrowDog

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So the game is the problem then.....no game should require more than 256mb of ram...if it does than its a poor game....If I would have know before I bought it I wouldent have got it....dont wanna give my money to companies that pull this kinda crap...;)
 

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Originally posted by: CrowDog
So the game is the problem then.....no game should require more than 256mb of ram...if it does than its a poor game....If I would have know before I bought it I wouldent have got it....dont wanna give my money to companies that pull this kinda crap...;)

lol... I would say 512 is standard for gamers now, with 1024 prefered.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: CrowDog
So the game is the problem then.....no game should require more than 256mb of ram...if it does than its a poor game....If I would have know before I bought it I wouldent have got it....dont wanna give my money to companies that pull this kinda crap...;)
Wrong . . . the O/S is the "problem". I have only 384MB RAM but my load times in Win98SE are nearly instantaneous.

Just upgrade your RAM. 512 is MINIMUM for XP (blame M$). :D

You DID remember to get the latest patch and drivers for the game? ;)
(The Radeon won't work well with the game "out of the box" and older Catalysts)
 

RSMemphis

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Originally posted by: CrowDog
So the game is the problem then.....no game should require more than 256mb of ram...if it does than its a poor game....If I would have know before I bought it I wouldent have got it....dont wanna give my money to companies that pull this kinda crap...;)
Unfortunately, I have to agree with you.
I enjoyed the game, but I enjoyed the first one more - and I did not find the graphics much better in the second one either - ok, the outdoors scenes were gorgeous.
 

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I would try to re-defrag your drive again also ...

The easiest way to to point the Virtual file to a different LOGICAL drive temporarily.
Then defrag the drive it WAS on.
Then move it back.

I notice its only a 20g drive you have ... If you didnt make logical partitions,,, reduce the swap file to its minimum.
(dont DELETE it OR go any lower than 28mb I think,,, or you'lll have system problems)

I highly recommend 512mb for memory also, ---- a must for the new games.

And a larger HD would help if your HD free space is low. Windows likes is space.
I'm pretty sure Windows has a formula for this ... but I dont remember it.
(Physical memory ratio to Virtual memory)
 

skace

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(dont DELETE it OR go any lower than 28mb I think,,, or you'lll have system problems)

I've 0'd out my vram before. It isn't a big deal anymore since people usually have so much physical memory. As long as you don't try running anything while your vram is 0'd out ... where you might run the risk of running out of memory.
 

BFG10K

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It's definitely your RAM - 256 MB is nowhere near enough. You need at least 512 MB for NOLF2 while 1024 MB is preferred.
 

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Disable pre-caching. Speeds up the loads quite a bit, with the trade-off of occasional hitches during gameplay. It's in the read-me.
 

CrowDog

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Originally posted by: BFG10K
It's definitely your RAM - 256 MB is nowhere near enough. You need at least 512 MB for NOLF2 while 1024 MB is preferred.

Then they should "recommend" 512! But they dont, they recommend 256........So your saying this company has purposly mislead people? Or they just dont know enough about games and computers to know it will take 512?


lol

Ill go play CS

 

BFG10K

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Then they should "recommend" 512! But they dont, they recommend 256........So your saying this company has purposly mislead people? Or they just dont know enough about games and computers to know it will take 512?
You should know better than to trust the minimum and recommended specs on a box. The company is trying to make as much money as possible so they'll always give you requirements that are lower than they should be so they can sell more copies of the game. And if it comes down to an argument, they can always claim that "minimum" is a subjective term.

In my experience tripling the minimum requirements or doubling the recommended ones gives you the actual requirements for a game to run decently, and in a lot of cases even those requirements come out on the conservative side.
 

CrowDog

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Originally posted by: BFG10K
Then they should "recommend" 512! But they dont, they recommend 256........So your saying this company has purposly mislead people? Or they just dont know enough about games and computers to know it will take 512?
You should know better than to trust the minimum and recommended specs on a box. The company is trying to make as much money as possible so they'll always give you requirements that are lower than they should be so they can sell more copies of the game. And if it comes down to an argument, they can always claim that "minimum" is a subjective term.

In my experience tripling the minimum requirements or doubling the recommended ones gives you the actual requirements for a game to run decently, and in a lot of cases even those requirements come out on the conservative side.


Yea I know that:eek: The truth is Im just irritated with the performance after I spent $30 on the game...I gotta bitch somewhere....my Wife dont care!:)
 

BFG10K

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Just get another stick of 256 MB RAM and it'll do wonders for your game load/reload times. Plus you won't break your bank account either.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: CrowDog
Originally posted by: BFG10K
It's definitely your RAM - 256 MB is nowhere near enough. You need at least 512 MB for NOLF2 while 1024 MB is preferred.

Then they should "recommend" 512! But they dont, they recommend 256........So your saying this company has purposly mislead people? Or they just dont know enough about games and computers to know it will take 512?


lol

Ill go play CS
256MB RAM is PLENTY for Win98SE . . . you have XP. If you are too cheap to buy more RAM, simply set up 98SE on a partition of your HD. ;)