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Nokia N9 with Meego....

From what I saw in the video and the stats, it looked better than I thought it would - although my expectations are pretty low given the reports back from the Mobile World Congress thing in Barcelona. The phone looks pretty good - I like the way it's shaped and the back bezel looks good. The technical details seem ok too. I've seen Nokia's recent Symbian phones - my wife only buys Nokia, so I have seen several - and the videos seem to put this OS ahead of what I have used on recent Symbian builds.

I guess it's all moot since Nokia is moving to WP7 but this actually looks pretty decent to me.
 
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pm said:
From what I saw in the video and the stats, it looked better than I thought it would - although my expectations are pretty low given the reports back from the Mobile World Congress thing in Barcelona. The phone looks pretty good - I like the way it's shaped and the back bezel looks good. The technical details seem ok too. I've seen Nokia's recent Symbian phones - my wife only buys Nokia, so I have seen several - and the videos seem to put this OS ahead of what I have used on recent Symbian builds.

I guess it's all moot since Nokia is moving to WP7 but this actually looks pretty decent to me.
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For all the positives you mention, if you were buying a phone, your last sentence is why this new Nokia phone is DOA. To a degree, when we now buy phones we are also investing in the mobile OS the phone uses. You don't want to spend $50-100 in app purchases only to dump that when you move to the next phone. If at all possible, you'd like to keep your purchases and move it over to the next phone. There's also a question of how well supported Meego will be. You can have the most powerful and easy to use mobile OS but if no one supports it, you're out of luck.
 
I'd love to get something as sexy as that hardware. Does WP7 have a tethering option that can get around carrier restrictions? Why couldn't Nokia have an android agreement, too 🙁

Now that I have a hacked nook color, having free wireless/bluetooth tethering is kind of a big deal. I'd love to have a beautiful handset by nokia with WP7 (I like the UI) on it next year, but if there is no way to tether for free with WP7, I'll probably stick with android.

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I don't see a problem with Meego, in fact I would pick it over WP7 if given the choice.

Here's a different video of the N9 in action.
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Meego looks nice. Too bad it took so long to be put out. Had Nokia put full version of Meego on all of its smartphones, starting in early 2009, they might have succeeded with it.
 
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This actually looks pretty sexy -- and finally, a decent screen. Last year's SOC though.

I wonder when somebody will hack Gingerbread onto it. 😉
 
preslove said:
I'd love to get something as sexy as that hardware. Does WP7 have a tethering option that can get around carrier restrictions? Why couldn't Nokia have an android agreement, too

Now that I have a hacked nook color, having free wireless/bluetooth tethering is kind of a big deal. I'd love to have a beautiful handset by nokia with WP7 (I like the UI) on it next year, but if there is no way to tether for free with WP7, I'll probably stick with android.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/18/chevronwp7-labs-will-jailbreak-your-windows-phone-with-microsoft/
Pretty soon we will be able to unlock WP7 phones and sideload apps. . . and Microsoft is letting it happen. I'd be surprised if there weren't a tethering app in the near future. Right now, it's supposedly possible to unlock a phone and enable tethering on the HTC WP7 phones and on the Venue Pro. Haven't had any experience with it myself, though.
 
smartpatrol said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/18/chevronwp7-labs-will-jailbreak-your-windows-phone-with-microsoft/
Pretty soon we will be able to unlock WP7 phones and sideload apps. . . and Microsoft is letting it happen. I'd be surprised if there weren't a tethering app in the near future. Right now, it's supposedly possible to unlock a phone and enable tethering on the HTC WP7 phones and on the Venue Pro. Haven't had any experience with it myself, though.
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Cool. I still have a year on contract, so I'll just wait and see 🙂
 
Looks nice, but does anyone think the sliding mechanism to close apps might get confusing? Say you are looking at a website and are scrolling up and down and accidentally scroll from the bottom and it closes. I guess since it has multitasking you can open it right back up.
 
smartpatrol said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/18/chevronwp7-labs-will-jailbreak-your-windows-phone-with-microsoft/
Pretty soon we will be able to unlock WP7 phones and sideload apps. . . and Microsoft is letting it happen. I'd be surprised if there weren't a tethering app in the near future. Right now, it's supposedly possible to unlock a phone and enable tethering on the HTC WP7 phones and on the Venue Pro. Haven't had any experience with it myself, though.
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I don't get this. Why is MS locking the phones in the first place if they are just agreeing with a 3rd party to unlock it? Or MS doesn't care, but HTC, etc. are locking them?
 
akugami said:
There's also a question of how well supported Meego will be. You can have the most powerful and easy to use mobile OS but if no one supports it, you're out of luck.
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It's MeeGo so it's going to have the open source community behind it, which is a big selling point for some people. I believe Intel will probably be doing active development on the OS as they've recently stated that they want to put it in other devices as well.

ImDonly1 said:
I don't get this. Why is MS locking the phones in the first place if they are just agreeing with a 3rd party to unlock it? Or MS doesn't care, but HTC, etc. are locking them?
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Microsoft probably doesn't care. They've already gotten paid. Also the number of users who sideload apps is a relatively small percentage of users, and those who do are probably also those most likely to root or jailbreak their devices to get around any such restrictions.

That said, they're incredibly late to the party with this. I'm not sure if it will be any more successful than Maemo was on the n900, but I'd love to be wrong.
 
British analyst David Prosser says it better than I could...

In the meantime, [in addition to the MeeGo-powered N9] ... Nokia plans to introduce a further 10 phones using its existing Symbian operating system, or at least an updated version of it.

Given that he has staked Nokia's future on Windows, would it not have been better for Mr Elop to concentrate the company's fire-power on getting these new smartphones to market rather more quickly? While its developers beaver away, Nokia is about to be overtaken in the smartphone market by Samsung, leaving it trailing in third place.

For a man who invited ridicule earlier this year with a warning to all staff that they were "standing on a burning platform" at Nokia, Mr Elop seems remarkably unhurried in his efforts to flee the flames.
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It's not as though they can immediately have Windows Phone 7 phones out the door as soon as they decide to transition towards using that as their primary operating system. There's also the issue of products that have been in the pipeline long before this decision was made. There's no sense in throwing them out as there's nothing there to replace them with and even less sense in trying to sell your old stock that looks ever worse.
 
Mopetar said:
It's not as though they can immediately have Windows Phone 7 phones out the door as soon as they decide to transition towards using that as their primary operating system.
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Understandable.

However, every project in addition to the one they are supposedly focused on, reduces the amount of resources they are able to devote to that project. As a consequence, Nokia's WP project must share its priorities with not one, but two other platform projects at the same time.

This looks less like "jumping from a burning platform" and more like Nokia is trying to straddle the burning platform and multiple lifeboats at the same time, hoping that at least one of them stays afloat...
 
akugami said:
For all the positives you mention, if you were buying a phone, your last sentence is why this new Nokia phone is DOA. To a degree, when we now buy phones we are also investing in the mobile OS the phone uses. You don't want to spend $50-100 in app purchases only to dump that when you move to the next phone. If at all possible, you'd like to keep your purchases and move it over to the next phone. There's also a question of how well supported Meego will be. You can have the most powerful and easy to use mobile OS but if no one supports it, you're out of luck.
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They might do OK if they price it against the mid/low end android devices. The inclusion of turn-by-turn voice navigation (that works without a data connection) is of value to many people. And the included apps may be enough for people moving up from a feature phone.
 
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