Nokia Booklet and Kingston SSD

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jacktheripper88

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I know my luck, it's probably something I've overlooked. But here is my issue.

Had a guy bring in a Nokia 3G Booklet, it's a little netbook similar to the ones Acer was pumping out for awhile. Anyway, he wanted me to upgrade him from his stock Micro SATA hard drive to an SSD. So I ordered him in a Kingston KC380 240GB SSD.

Removed his old mSATA and installed the SSD, installed the OS, loaded fine, got into Windows and started doing updates. Restarted it, bam no boot device. Loaded the windows disk again, no drive found, STILL SHOWS in BIOS. If I use my Hiren's boot disk and boot to the copy of miniXP I can see the drive and it's files just fine.
I deleted the partitions on the drive and reinstalled the OS again, went smoothly like before. Decided to install all the drivers this time instead of just doing the network ones. Rebooted and bam samething.

At this point I thought maybe the SSD was bad, don't really have a lot of options for drive diagnostics. Worked with Kingston tech support, they thought possibly the drive was defective so they shipped me a new one.

But I'm back in the same boat.

Now for the sake of it, I've deleted the partition on the drive again, ran the installer disk, it did the mid-install restart and this time it doesn't want to complete the installation. Currently sitting back at the beginning of the windows installation and doesn't detect any drives.

Any ideas?
 
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So, to me it sounds like it is ok if you boot off the USB (or whatever it's on) for the OS load, but will not boot off the drive that differs from the original (have you verified it still loads from the original drive?).

So my first guess is BIOS change that is need to allow it to boot from a source different from the original (even though it's the same port). I did some digging, and all I could find was a blog post about doing the same upgrade, but they didn't report any such issues. I don't see a BIOS of that era having options with such limitations, but I can't see the actual BIOS, so maybe they buried something in there.

Another thing to try would be just to clone the old drive onto the SSD, and see if that works.
 
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I forgot to mention I did update the BIOS before I contacted Kingston. I just checked the options in BIOS and it's a pretty barren place, the only things pertaining to the hard drive are Legacy USB support and the typical boot order options.
The original drive still boots correctly.
I wanted to go cloning route but these drive don't have the typical sata power interface. On top of that there are very limited things I can run on this machine as far a cloning utilities. I wanted to use Partition Wizard but it doesn't support the cpu in this little damner.
 
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Good point. That weird interface is hard to find, I'm sure. Are you trying to put 7 back on it? Might want to go for 10 since it will activate with 7's key. Might work out better, and Windows 10 will probably run a bit better on that machine.
 
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I think the problem you are running into is that pesky 32-bit UEFI issue I've run into on my Zotac Nano. I eventually got Ubuntu to boot by first installing Debian using the netinst method, then installing Ubuntu alongside using the Debian bootloader. I don't know if there is an easier way with Windows or not, or if Windows 10 will just work, but that is likely the issue you are running into.
Good luck!
 
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Gave Windows 10 a try, got to the same point. On the bright side, I did finally find a memory test that works with this hardware. Currently running Gold Memtest, really hope it doesn't fail as the ram for this guy are soldered on.
 
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32, this little pc only has an Atom processor in it. Still waiting on the memtest to finish, only has a GB in it, it's only 42% in after running 2 hours and 18 minutes. This guy might have a dying motherboard, FML
 
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erqw12

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Hi to all!

I have the same problem with my Nokia Booklet.
Have you finally found a solution?

erqw12
 
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jacktheripper88

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LOL I was hoping to find someone with the same issue, but that had already figured out the issue.
I'm still messing with this little damner, got it to boot once and it was super hesitant doing anything even though the RAM and CPU were only showing 40-70% used.
They have a rather poor cooling system in these little machines. No fan, just an aluminum sheet under the keyboard.
 
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erqw12

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My Booklet behave exactly like your.. I wonder if the problem could be some sort of not fully compatibility with the SSD..
I can't figure out any other solution or idea..

erqw12
 
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I have a sneaky suspicion there may be a RAM issue with mine, possibly yours too. But with the RAM being apart of the motherboard is hard to troubleshoot. I did get it to go into windows 10 once and while using it it was unbelievably laggy doing anything
 
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Considering there are a couple online tutorials where people have successfully done this procedure (and it didn't seem to have any quirks they had to watch out for either), my guess is a BIOS issue. As in, you folks have an older/newer version of the BIOS than what those people were using.

But considering there is no longer a Nokia website that has this type of information (at least, none that I can find), I can' say this with 100% certainty.
 
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jacktheripper88 said:
I'll have to trudge back through my search history, seems to me I found it and the drivers listed on a Microsoft hosted forum

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Found it, wasn't on a Microsoft site like I had thought: https://nokiabooklet.wordpress .com/2010/10/08/sterowniki/https://nokiabookle******************2010/10/08/sterowniki/
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Nice little page. It's good to know that somebody has put something out there for this thing. I hate to say it, but I think any hardware changes for this thing is a lost cause. Once it gets too slow for current software (or develops component failures), pull the hard drive and toss it.
 
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Ketchup said:
Considering there are a couple online tutorials where people have successfully done this procedure (and it didn't seem to have any quirks they had to watch out for either), my guess is a BIOS issue. As in, you folks have an older/newer version of the BIOS than what those people were using.

But considering there is no longer a Nokia website that has this type of information (at least, none that I can find), I can' say this with 100% certainty.
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Did you solve the problem? I buyed a Kingston SSD and i cant boot windows, i spent 1 week on this shit, i will solve it.I will write something if i find the solution...
In my opinion the problem is the bios and the ssd compatibility.
 
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