Nokia announces Lumia 1320, 1520, and 2520.

[pantsaregood]

Lumia 1320:
http://wmpoweruser.com/nokia-lumia-1320-official-specs-pricing-and-availability/

Lumia 1520:
http://www.wpcentral.com/nokia-announces-lumia-1520

Lumia 2520:
http://www.wpcentral.com/nokia-officially-announces-lumia-2520-their-first-windows-tablet

The Lumia 1320 is intended to be an entry-level phablet for emerging markets - Nokia looks to be continuing their strategy of assaulting the low end.

The Lumia 1520, as far as specs go, is a beast. I'm curious of what the actual dimensions of the device are, and what kind of advantages these new high-end specs can bring Windows Phone 8.

The Lumia 2520 is a tablet that puzzles me in a lot of ways. As of now, I'm not really finding it particularly interesting - there isn't anything bad about it so much as nothing about it catches my attention.

Official Instagram, Vine, Flipboard, Papyrus, and InNote were also announced for Windows Phone. The first two are a bit sad, considering the third-party alternatives are widely considered to be superior to the official iOS/Android apps now.

In other news, Nokia just pulled an Intel and destroyed any hope they had for their naming convention to make sense.

EDIT: Lumia 1520 is 162.8 x 85.4 x 8.7mm and weighs 209g. By comparison, the Galaxy Note 3 is 151.2 x 79.2 x 8.3 mm and weighs 168g. The Galaxy Mega 6.3 is 167.6 x 88 x 8 mm and 199g. The Lumia 1520 is roughly the same size as the Galaxy Mega 5.8, at 162.6 x 82.4 x 9 mm. Make of that what you will - it is no doubt a large device, but it does seem like there's less "wasted" space than on previous Nokia devices.

 

[bearxor]

Not anywhere near excited for new Nokia hardware. More interested in how WP8.1 makes use of a 1080p screen and Snapdragon 800 in the future.

But, honestly, there wasn't really much wrong with Nokia's lineup to begin with. This basically just adds a premium and a low cost 6" device for those that want them.

 

[biostud]

I doubt the tablet is going to be continued after the Microsoft purchase of Nokia.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Grrr, WTF, AT&T exclusive. I thought the rumors said Verizon would be getting it?

Hmm looks like they're getting a version of the 929 with non 6" 1080p display, 20MP, but probably lack SD slot or be inferior in some way because Verizon has to be cheapasses: http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/21/4757012/nokia-lumia-929-verizon-photo-rumor

Yeah the tablet, its solid but it needed something to stand out. At minimum for that price it needed the keyboard cover included just to be viable against Surface even. That or it needed to be 7-8", or to have the new Atom and Win 8.1.

 

[notposting]

They will have RAW support for the 1020 and 1520, plus refocus ability for all "Pureview" models with the GDR3/Black update (which the 1520 will ship with).

Yeah the rumored 929 disappoints me (have a 928). They pulled FM support from the 928 so who knows with the 929. Plus, it's back to dual-LED's for the flash which is a step back, but 20mp sensor which is a move forward, supposedly a 5" screen which could be good or bad...bah.

 

[pantsaregood]

...and I just lost some of my excitement for the 1520.

http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/nokia-lumia-1520.html

AT&T's variant of the device doesn't integrate wireless charging. I hate carriers with their "exclusive" variants.

 

[MichaelBarg]

The Lumia 2520 is a tablet that puzzles me in a lot of ways. As of now, I'm not really finding it particularly interesting - there isn't anything bad about it so much as nothing about it catches my attention.

It seems like it would be a nice enough device with Bay Trail and full Windows. Especially with the Skydrive and Skype bonuses for the Surface 2 it looks like it will need a very competitive price to move any substantial number.

 

[bearxor]

...and I just lost some of my excitement for the 1520.

http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/nokia-lumia-1520.html

AT&T's variant of the device doesn't integrate wireless charging. I hate carriers with their "exclusive" variants.

To be fair to AT&T, wireless charging has pretty much been a flop in the US. If removing it knocks down the thickness and weight, then it's an even trade off for them, IMO.

 

[dougp]

Call me when WP manages to get YouTube and Spotify. Two big apps that still haven't made it over - and no, I don't care what is going on between Google and MS.

 

[InfiniteLurker]

Call me when WP manages to get YouTube and Spotify. Two big apps that still haven't made it over - and no, I don't care what is going on between Google and MS.

Spotify is available on WP I believe, and YouTube works for me on it as well. Sure, it's just the mobile site, but I don't care about subscriptions/downloading or whatever it is that the app would give me.

 

[Roland00Address]

It seems like it would be a nice enough device with Bay Trail and full Windows. Especially with the Skydrive and Skype bonuses for the Surface 2 it looks like it will need a very competitive price to move any substantial number.

What are the chances we will see a respin of the 2520 with Baytrail?

 

[bearxor]

Call me when WP manages to get YouTube and Spotify. Two big apps that still haven't made it over - and no, I don't care what is going on between Google and MS.

Spotify:
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/spotify/10f2995d-1f82-4203-b7fa-46ddbd07a6e6

For YouTube, you should look in to MetroTube
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/spotify/10f2995d-1f82-4203-b7fa-46ddbd07a6e6

I mean, you know WP isn't getting an official YouTube app, but Metro is really nice. I dare say it's even a little nicer than the YT app Microsoft released that was pulled. But for YouTube, it's not like you can't access YT videos at all. At least if it was something app-specific, I can understand and totally relate. But YT? Everything plays fine and has since WP7.

 

[Kallogan]

The lumia 1520 could be the perfect sheet if the camera comes with a lot of manual settings like pureview lineup.

It's still stuck at 1080p 30fps for videos while some devices go for 60fps and even 4K. Not a problem for me i'm fine with 1080p 30fps as it is more standard as long as you can have manual settings.

 

[pantsaregood]

To be fair to AT&T, wireless charging has pretty much been a flop in the US. If removing it knocks down the thickness and weight, then it's an even trade off for them, IMO.

Yeah, but it doesn't knock down the thickness. The wireless charging pads inside Nokia's charging shells are of negligible thickness. People were actually integrating the 925's wireless charging into the phone, and the 1520's wireless charging works identically to the 925.

Flop or not, I love wireless charging.

Also, the Lumia 1520 has a PureView sensor, meaning it gets all of the camera features that are included with the 920/925/928/1020. It has some amazing audio filtering, but it only records 1080p/30fps.

 

[dougp]

Spotify:
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/spotify/10f2995d-1f82-4203-b7fa-46ddbd07a6e6

For YouTube, you should look in to MetroTube
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/spotify/10f2995d-1f82-4203-b7fa-46ddbd07a6e6

I mean, you know WP isn't getting an official YouTube app, but Metro is really nice. I dare say it's even a little nicer than the YT app Microsoft released that was pulled. But for YouTube, it's not like you can't access YT videos at all. At least if it was something app-specific, I can understand and totally relate. But YT? Everything plays fine and has since WP7.

Odd, Spotify wasn't there last year when I had to go back to my backup WP device for a week. Even then, it's a half-assed attempt with no streaming radio options, only playlist.

As for YT - it's the simple fact that there is no app. Sure, MetroTube works great (and I used it since it's release when I had a WP device) but the fact remains that the actual YT app is a half-assed attempt because of the mobile site.

 

[pantsaregood]

Half-assed attempt because of the mobile site? What? The YouTube "app" is a link TO the mobile site. That's the best "official" app you're going to see on Windows Phone, as Google has every desire to cause issues for Windows Phone. The Lumia 520 has been competing pretty well with low-end Android devices in emerging markets, and Microsoft is grabbing up marketshare in some places as a result. Google obviously doesn't want that to continue.

There was a YouTube app. Google intentionally caused problems with it.

 

[dougp]

Half-assed attempt because of the mobile site? What? The YouTube "app" is a link TO the mobile site. That's the best "official" app you're going to see on Windows Phone, as Google has every desire to cause issues for Windows Phone. The Lumia 520 has been competing pretty well with low-end Android devices in emerging markets, and Microsoft is grabbing up marketshare in some places as a result. Google obviously doesn't want that to continue.

There was a YouTube app. Google intentionally caused problems with it.

Because Microsoft didn't follow their API guidelines - it's been an ongoing battle for years. I was a first day adopter of WP and held on for a year, and I revisit it every now and then. Other than camera, screen size and resolution, hardware specs really aren't going to push WP.

 

[notposting]

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[notposting]

edit: should read thread all the way through. I've been using myTube fwiw.

Not sure what the beef with 3rd-party apps is sometimes..."the not official but by MS app sucks so even though there are great alternatives I will complain".

 

[notposting]

Because Microsoft didn't follow their API guidelines - it's been an ongoing battle for years. I was a first day adopter of WP and held on for a year, and I revisit it every now and then. Other than camera, screen size and resolution, hardware specs really aren't going to push WP.

And when MS does follow their API guidelines and release a beautiful app, Google decides that it needs to be done in HTML 5 instead of native code.

Well, their versions on Android and iOS don't, but for the (very) 3rd place platform? It does.

Is Google scared of MS?

 

[Roland00Address]

And when MS does follow their API guidelines and release a beautiful app, Google decides that it needs to be done in HTML 5 instead of native code.

Well, their versions on Android and iOS don't, but for the (very) 3rd place platform? It does.

Is Google scared of MS?

But don't you see android and iOS do not have to follow the api guidelines since they are grandfathered in. I doubt Google is scared of windows mobile since Microsoft does not take windows mobile seriously, and is not willing to fight Google or Apple for market share by being scrappy and pouring money into software development so they are not behind in features. Even so in mobile Google is old guard and experienced, why be easy on the new guy even if the new guy is not riley and trips more often than not. Market share unfortunately is zero sum game unless you create a new type of device such as tablets, smart watches, glasses, voice assisted devices, etc.

170 million iPads sold so far, and iPads unlike other tablets cost >$300 final price and make apple at least $100 profit on each model sold (some models it is $200 or $300 all the way up to $400+)

 

[bearxor]

But don't you see android and iOS do not have to follow the api guidelines since they are grandfathered in.

It's Microsoft. They could make an exception for Microsoft.

Or they could, AT LEAST, allow MS to use it's already built app while they work on a new one.

 

[Crono]

It's Microsoft. They could make an exception for Microsoft.

Or they could, AT LEAST, allow MS to use it's already built app while they work on a new one.

Not to mention that Google was supposed to have been working with Microsoft on this round. How do you not let the app through when you agreed to have a team working on the app with Microsoft?

 

[Roland00Address]

It's Microsoft. They could make an exception for Microsoft.

Or they could, AT LEAST, allow MS to use it's already built app while they work on a new one.

I agree it is bs for the consumers, but bs is business.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

What Google doesn't realize is how utterly dependent they are on MSFT for survival. If MSFT wanted to they could release a patch that disabled Chrome browsers on all their OS's and Google's revenues would plummet instantly. They are fools to be poking the beast like this.