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OuiKikUrAzz

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I wanted to know if NoCD cracks are illeagal even when I own the ORIGINAL REAL disc?

Plus the alternative to NoCD cracks would be virtualCDRoms...does anyone know of a good virtual CDRom program for use with over 15 games?

I guess using the word LAN is a bit iffy but more i'm trying to gather info to start up an internet cafe.

FYI: When using the cracks i WILL own one license per EACH install which means one license for each station.
 
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If you own the game, I see nothing morally wrong with using a no CD crack. As for being legal or not, who knows..

For CD image mounting I like DAEMON Tools. Works well and is free. :)
 
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BoomAM

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As long as you own the original CD, its not illegal.
For Virtual CDs, try farstone virtual drive. Its great, im running it now.
 
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OuiKikUrAzz

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would there be a way to mount all the games at the same time? Therefore the user doesn't have to manually mount it when they want to play the game.
 
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BoomAM

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Farstone Virtual Drive allows upto 21 virtual drives, and you can set it to mount your virtual cds at startup.
You set what cd goes to which virtual drive, and then every time you start up, it`ll automatically mount it for you.
 
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I always download no-CD cracks for all my games.

There are mainly two reasons:
I don't want my CD's scratched.
It's a PITA to have to change CD's all the time if you happen to play more than one game frequently.
 
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BoomAM

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Originally posted by: Sunner
I always download no-CD cracks for all my games.

There are mainly two reasons:
I don't want my CD's scratched.
It's a PITA to have to change CD's all the time if you happen to play more than one game frequently.
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Thats what i do.
If it wont run on a virtual drive, i get a crack. It save me swapping cds every time i want to play a game.
 
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bsobel

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Originally posted by: OuiKikUrAzz
I wanted to know if NoCD cracks are illeagal even when I own the ORIGINAL REAL disc?
Plus the alternative to NoCD cracks would be virtualCDRoms...does anyone know of a good virtual CDRom program for use with over 15 games?
I guess using the word LAN is a bit iffy but more i'm trying to gather info to start up an internet cafe.
FYI: When using the cracks i WILL own one license per EACH install which means one license for each station.
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From your post I suspect you haven't really investigated game licensing for an internet cafe yet, many of the vendors have restrictions in their licenses that will keep you from just buying 6 copies of game X for 6 machines. You have to license the software directly from them (at rental/internet cafe prices). It's just like how a store can't buy a music cd and then play that for customers without an additional license.

Not saying I agree with the way it's done, just that you should investigate it before you start any serious endevour. It can be quite expensive if they file suit against you after.

Bill


 
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NapalmKing

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I always use no CD cracks. I find bloody annoying when I chose full install so that I don?t have to use the CD every time I want to play the game, and then it still asks for the CD just to check if it is a illegal copy.
 
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No-CD is perfectly fine, I often use them. Note, however, that some No-CD patches disable Multiplayer gaming(my current Rallisport Challenge No-CD does this, which kinda sucks).
 
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Originally posted by: sandorski
No-CD is perfectly fine, I often use them. Note, however, that some No-CD patches disable Multiplayer gaming(my current Rallisport Challenge No-CD does this, which kinda sucks).
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While that is true, I have a fully working no CD crack for RalliSport. :)
 
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sandorski

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Originally posted by: Nohr
Originally posted by: sandorski
No-CD is perfectly fine, I often use them. Note, however, that some No-CD patches disable Multiplayer gaming(my current Rallisport Challenge No-CD does this, which kinda sucks).
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While that is true, I have a fully working no CD crack for RalliSport. :)
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Hmm, when I wrote the previous post, I was thinking that I should go find another one. :) I guess I'll go and do that then.
 
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Looney

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I don't even understand why they make CD protection for online games... nothing i hate more than needing a CD to play a game, and especially for online games where a unique code is needed.
 

Originally posted by: BoomAM
Originally posted by: Sunner
I always download no-CD cracks for all my games.

There are mainly two reasons:
I don't want my CD's scratched.
It's a PITA to have to change CD's all the time if you happen to play more than one game frequently.
Click to expand...

Thats what i do.
If it wont run on a virtual drive, i get a crack. It save me swapping cds every time i want to play a game.
Click to expand...

Like the other fellow said, daemon tools works great. What if you go to a lan and forget a cd.....
 
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DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: bsobel
From your post I suspect you haven't really investigated game licensing for an internet cafe yet, many of the vendors have restrictions in their licenses that will keep you from just buying 6 copies of game X for 6 machines. You have to license the software directly from them (at rental/internet cafe prices). It's just like how a store can't buy a music cd and then play that for customers without an additional license.

Not saying I agree with the way it's done, just that you should investigate it before you start any serious endevour. It can be quite expensive if they file suit against you after.

Bill
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Listen to Bill -- haven't you noticed that every VHS / DVD movie includes a screen saying for noncommercial home use only? Check your game license and most/all will probably say the same. If your cafe is succesful and you don't have commercial licenses from the game companies, expect to be hit with that "$100,000 per title" fine the BSA radio ads are mentioning.
 
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OuiKikUrAzz

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Originally posted by: bsobel
From your post I suspect you haven't really investigated game licensing for an internet cafe yet, many of the vendors have restrictions in their licenses that will keep you from just buying 6 copies of game X for 6 machines. You have to license the software directly from them (at rental/internet cafe prices). It's just like how a store can't buy a music cd and then play that for customers without an additional license.

Not saying I agree with the way it's done, just that you should investigate it before you start any serious endevour. It can be quite expensive if they file suit against you after.

Bill
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Listen to Bill -- haven't you noticed that every VHS / DVD movie includes a screen saying for noncommercial home use only? Check your game license and most/all will probably say the same. If your cafe is succesful and you don't have commercial licenses from the game companies, expect to be hit with that "$100,000 per title" fine the BSA radio ads are mentioning.
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yup starting to email them about it now. Some sites really suck as they don't give you an email address for these types of things to email. Then there are those sites that I can find an email address in 2 minutes. Just shows which companies depend more on internet cafes and which dont.
 
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Originally posted by: Moralpanic
I don't even understand why they make CD protection for online games... nothing i hate more than needing a CD to play a game, and especially for online games where a unique code is needed.
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They make CD protection because otherwise, everyone would just buy a game and install it on all his friends systems. For online games where it actually checks your keycode, it does seem like overkill.

Morally, I don't see anything wrong with using a no-CD crack if you actually bought the game.

But technically, using a no-CD crack is ILLEGAL. If you read your EULA, you will find that modifying the software code is usually not allowed. And the way most cracks work is by replacing the executable with a hacked version that has removed the CD check code. So technically you are violating your EULA if you use a no-CD crack.

 
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BoomAM

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Would the EULA thing still apply if you got one of those cracks that sits in the system memory, not modifing the game *.exe.
All its doing is intercepting any games calls for the CD and sending it false info.
 
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DT4K

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I wouldn't think so, but I'm not a lawyer.
Most of the cracks I've used have been modified versions of the .exe. And AFAIK, those are a violation.
 
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