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BarkingGhostar

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MURDER HORNETS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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First nest down but I bet there is a hundred more hiding someplace. It's war, baby!
 
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Captante

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Crazy suits they need to wear ... partly due to insecticides I'm sure but apparently these guys can sting right through a normal bee-keeper outfit.

And unfortunately my bet is that it's already over and they aready have at least a small established population in North America.


Ouch!
 

sdifox

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What is CIVID? There is a whole other pandemic I don't know about?
 

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Crazy that bees can generate that much heat. :eek:

Now I wonder how many watts of energy a single bee can generate... I feel this could make a good 2am research project for when I can't fall asleep.
 

BarkingGhostar

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Watched a video on them attacking a colony. It was on YT and a couple of dozen of these bitches killed something like 14,000 regular bees and only suffered a total loss of 12, and that was only from sheer exhaustion. They said something about the murder hornets being triggered into a killing rampage and with that they do not know when to stop. I guess nature says stop when you are dead?
 

pmv

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I feel the murder hornets is more of a season 2 thing, we'll start hearing about them a bit more this season to lead up to them. Probably see the full outbreak in 2021.

But which major character is going to be written out at the end-of-season finale, eh?
 
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Scarpozzi

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Most people in the US buy Italian and Russian Queens. I've not seen Japanese bees on the market, but it'll be interesting to see if this drives beekeepers to start looking for them.


My local supply shops take orders in the Spring and I'd rather buy there than deal with shipping. What's funny is when you have a package of bees with a queen, other bees will get close to the cage on the outside...so transporting them can be sketchy in a car.
 

BarkingGhostar

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Jeez, 6mm long stinger !?! That's worse than a butterfly needle I have them use to draw blood from the backside of my hand (blood doesn't come willingly from my body in any medical establishment).
 

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If these are rampant in asia how have they not killed all the bees into extinction at this point?
That is not how population dynamics work. In most cases, changing a parameter (such as making an enemy more deadly, or adding in more of the deadly enemy) only changes the equilibrium point to a lower level and/or make the swings in population more dramatic.

Here is an example of a predator-prey model where the populations do not just go directly to a stable equilibrium. Instead they are in an oscillation that is stable. Over time, the populations will travel along one of those curves. Neither predator nor prey is at a constant value, but they keep rotating along one of the curves, returning periodically to the value at the beginning. As parameters change, the oscillations can become bigger or smaller depending on the change that is made. For the bees, we could imagine that the normal case is the dark inner circle. Add in killer bees (more predators) and the case might now become one of the outer yellow circles.

 
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