No support for Intel 820 on nVidia chipsets.

[Lonyo]

If you want to buy cheap dual core, you'll need an Intel chipset, and not nVIdia.
Xbitlabs storyAssuming they ever get released and decently available 😛

 

[theMan]

why would you even want one? X2 all the way!!! ill probably get on of those this year.

 

[nellienelson1]

Originally posted by: theman
why would you even want one? X2 all the way!!! ill probably get on of those this year.

please dont kill me for this as i dont believe it myslef just plauing devils advocate but it could be because the intel chip is a smidgen cheaper?

 

[imported_brandon]

It is a smidgen cheaper if you already have a brand new mobo, brand new video card, and brand new memory that dual core will need, because the Intel boards I've seen for the 820 & up will only have PCI-E, no AGP, so in the end, it's alot more expensive than the X2.

The X2 however will work in current mobos with only a BIOS update.

 

[imported_brandon]

It is a smidgen cheaper if you already have a brand new mobo, brand new video card, and brand new memory that dual core will need, because the Intel boards I've seen for the 820 & up will only have PCI-E, no AGP, so in the end, it's alot more expensive than the X2.

The X2 however will work in current mobos with only a BIOS update.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: brandon
It is a smidgen cheaper if you already have a brand new mobo, brand new video card, and brand new memory that dual core will need, because the Intel boards I've seen for the 820 & up will only have PCI-E, no AGP, so in the end, it's alot more expensive than the X2.

The X2 however will work in current mobos with only a BIOS update.

What if (like me) you aren't running a 939 board?
Or are you forgetting all the people who haven't got one of those in making your sweeping assumptions?
I would buy a new mobo (running socket A at the moment), new graphics card (9800 at the moment), new memory (limited overclocking PC3200 at the moment) and obviously the new processor.

Tell me how the X2 will be cheaper? Yes, I am planning on buying an entirely new system later this year.
I was interested in a cheap dual core system (hmm, maybe a 2.8GHz Intel machine actually), but obviously now with an nVidia chipset.

 

[theMan]

well, the main thing is, the p4-d takes up so much power. as you can see here you can also read the rest of that review to see the advantages of X2. also, IMO it seems like all intel does these days is focus on marketing schemes and making money. they are probably happy people need an intel chipset. also, nvidia and others realize that the money is in the X2.

 

[AnandThenMan]

What is the difference between a 2.8 ghz and a 3.0 ghz Pentium D besides the clock speed? Why would one work and not the other? It makes zero sense to me.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: AnandThenMan
What is the difference between a 2.8 ghz and a 3.0 ghz Pentium D besides the clock speed? Why would one work and not the other? It makes zero sense to me.

It might involve multiplier support. The nVidia mobo may not support x14 multi, but be OK with x15 and above.
IIRC they don't make 2.8GHz Prescott single cores, so it wouldn't affect those chips either.
(I may be wrong though)

 

[KDKPSJ]

Originally posted by: brandon
It is a smidgen cheaper if you already have a brand new mobo, brand new video card, and brand new memory that dual core will need, because the Intel boards I've seen for the 820 & up will only have PCI-E, no AGP, so in the end, it's alot more expensive than the X2.

The X2 however will work in current mobos with only a BIOS update.

Here's what I wrote in another thread:

"But isn't the price of DDR2 going down dramatically? Some DDR2 modules are as cheap as DDR1 this day, so you just have to spend some time to trade if you already have DDR1. But cost-wise, DDR1 = DDR2, so the price of memory is out of equation.. And now mobo.. 945/955 mobos are just released from very limited manufacture, and even those are very high-end mobos, ex. ASUS P5WD2 Premium. So there are price premium for sure. But you know what, those 955 mobos are somehow cheaper than NF4-SLI mobo when it first came out 😛

So, if you do the math, it's nowhere close, I think. But yeah, X2 is definately better if you have money. But I honestly think P-D is not seriously bad either, especially if you don't want to spend 500+ bux for CPU alone. Of course, it's worse, but it's worth 😛"

If you are building up new setup, there's no doubt that P-D is better value somehow. And even if you do already have NF4 system, you won't have to spend too much extra to switch over Pentium D system. Just you have to spend some time, but cost-wise, it's zero sum about mobo/RAM. (Same PCI-E graphic card as well, another zero-sum)

Yeah, but that's right, electricity bill is an issue to take care 😛 But as a matter of mobo/RAM/VGA, P-D and X2 are equal.

 

[Markfw]

Yeah, but that's right, electricity bill is an issue to take care

Yes, and quite a bill. If I leave by duallie up 24/7, my electric jumps $20 a month, its about $10 for the newcastles each, and about $8 for the winchesters. Based on what I saw from the usage, a dual 840 on for 24/7 could get as high as $40 per month to run ! I would say that $480 a year , or $240 MORE than an X2 is a consideration.

Now if you play for 3 hours a day who cares......