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fallensight

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Sex Ed should be tought as a medicly acurate class. Keep idiology out of it and keep to the scientific facts.
 

blackllotus

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Originally posted by: fallensight
Sex Ed should be tought as a medicly acurate class. Keep idiology out of it and keep to the scientific facts.

Generally I don't bust on people for spelling mistakes, but come on :p
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: fallensight
Sex Ed should be tought as a medicly acurate class. Keep idiology out of it and keep to the scientific facts.

Hell, forget just Sex Education...the ideological folks (all of 'em!) need to go blow it out their ass when it comes to government. We have a hard enough time debating the FACTS surrounding an issue, the last thing we need is some numb-nuts prancing around talking about his Utopian moral society.
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: techs
I think everyone who disagrees with this policy should protest in the most appropriate manner.
If you get my meaning.

That sounds like an excellent idea, it's sort of like the appropriate way to deal with the militant vegetarians, eat enough meat for them and you, plus a whole other person as long as they keep shoving their ideology in your face. And unlike that particular plan, where there is a good chance you'll end up with some health related problems, applying it to the militant puritan sex debate is a LOT more fun and a lot better for you. :D
 

Enig101

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Originally posted by: blackllotus
Abstinence IS taught in sex education, however it definately should not be the only thing taught. It is important to teach safe ways of having sex since we know many kids just won't listen to the idea of abstinence.
Exactly. If anything, contraception should be focused on more than abstinence. Not even the US government can fight human nature. ;)
 

jackschmittusa

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I think everyone who disagrees with this policy should protest in the most appropriate manner.

What a great idea for a Halloween costume - Militant Copulator!

Must call LLoyd Kauffman with the new idea for a Troma film.
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: hellokeith
Originally posted by: CellarDoor
Yes, abstinence is the only way to prevent unwanted pregnancies and STD's 100%

So doesn't it follow this should be the crux of sex education? I'm not saying teach it exclusively, but make it primary and reiterate it many times. Doesn't even need to be within the context of morality, just the facts.

Obviously it should be a component of sex-ed, maybe even the primary component, but as others have indicated, that's not what's going on here. While abstinence is obviously the only 100% effective "solution", it is also the one least likely to be used by the target group. It's not a matter of not teaching it enough, it's just the simple fact that the target group is just not going to be real receptive to the idea. The only reasonable approach is to teach ALL the facts about sex-ed, with the hope that enough of it will stick to make a difference. While that means teaching "imperfect" solutions, a 99% effective approach that is used by 75% of the people is a lot more effective overall than a 100% effective approach that's used by 10% of the people.
 

jackschmittusa

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The people that push hardest for abstinance oriented programs are same ones that think immunizing their daughters against HPV means they are authorizing them to be whores.

Any and every program about STDs and pregnancy already mentions absinence as a preventitive measure. The idea is nothing new, just a push to give it new prominance. Since it is only practiced infrequently, it makes no sense to focus on it.

This sort of thing is aimed at the people who seem to advertise "Unfurnished mind for rent".
 

Craig234

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The people that push hardest for abstinance oriented programs are same ones that think immunizing their daughters against HPV means they are authorizing them to be whores.

You have to learn to market to those people. Tell them it's just in case she is raped, and then they can be all in favor.
 

shira

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It seems to me that the human race has been around and reproducing for approximately 100,000 years, yet even the faintest notion of wedlock has been around for less than 5,000 years. What then are we to make of the first 95,000 years of human procreation? If sex out of wedlock is wrong now, wasn't it wrong 50,000 years ago? Was the entire human race "wrong" to engage in sexual activity before marriage existed? Should the human race have abstained themselves into extinction?
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: shira
It seems to me that the human race has been around and reproducing for approximately 100,000 years, yet even the faintest notion of wedlock has been around for less than 5,000 years. What then are we to make of the first 95,000 years of human procreation? If sex out of wedlock is wrong now, wasn't it wrong 50,000 years ago? Was the entire human race "wrong" to engage in sexual activity before marriage existed? Should the human race have abstained themselves into extinction?

The concept of "sex out of wedlock being wrong" is an arbitrary human cultural invention that not all societies/civilizations believed in. In fact, it's not wrong now.