No...seriously; XP2500 from Newegg - chances of it hitting/NOT hitting 200 x 11?

[MichaelD]

Allright...the bug's been biting me and I'm gonna bite back. :evil:

I'm going to wait for the NF3250 before moving to an A64 platform. That said:

I'm planning on getting an Abit NF7-S, using an SLK-900A and PC3200 (Corsair).

I want to do at least 11 x 200...preferably not at above 1.750 volts.

If I get an XP2500 from Newegg (I know the multi is locked) what are the odds of it hitting/not hitting a 200MHz FSB?

I haven't purchased a CPU in almost a year...last one was an XP2100 that does 200x10 with just 1.700 volts.

 

[hytek369]

1 of a million, honestly, who really knows probability of that?

 

[myocardia]

From what I've seen, especially with the newest ones, like newegg has, it's been over 95%. Don't worry, just get one, then sell me your 2100 that does 10x200. My daughter needs a faster proc. than her 1800 Palomino.

 

[Markfw]

Not sure yet, due to install problems, I went down to 190x11 and it is rock solid. Had a definite problem at 3200+ (NF7-S has option to select 2500 or 3200), and one burp at 194 (not sure though, could have been another problem. So now wait a week, go up 2, wait another week go up 2, etc....

But based on this I would say not guaranteed. Still 2.1 ghz is close, and it may go higher. I used OCZ PC3200 CAS2 something. Not cheap ram, but not the best. Also, I refuse to up voltage and loose lifespan, or risk damage.

 

[MichaelD]

Dang. Nothing's changed! From what I've been reading as of late, AMD's not producing anything higher than a 3200+ XP Barton...ergo, most "lower clocked" processors really aren't. *hint-hint* BUT, you guys tell me otherwise. Dammit. :disgust:

Heck, way back when I bought my XP2100, it was almost guaranteed you'd do 200MHz w/the right PSU and memory. Is it a crapshoot now, or do the same rules apply? I don't want to waste my money.

 

[PCTweaker5]

Why are some 2500bartons locked? Mine wasnt

 

[BlueWeasel]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
Heck, way back when I bought my XP2100, it was almost guaranteed you'd do 200MHz w/the right PSU and memory. Is it a crapshoot now, or do the same rules apply? I don't want to waste my money.

IMHO, it's pretty much the same with the 2500+. I'd say given the right PSU, board, and RAM, 9 out of 10 2500+ chips will hit 3200+. Some may take 1.8 or even 1.85v to get there, but as you mentioned in your other thread, you're going with a good HSF combo, so 1.85v really shouldn't be a problem.

 

[BlueWeasel]

Originally posted by: PCTweaker5
Why are some 2500bartons locked? Mine wasnt

AMD started locking all 2500+ chips because it was likely hurting sales of the higher end Bartons (ie, the 3200+). Why would you spend $300 on a 3200+ when you could get a 2500+ for $90 that would do the same speed?

Most 2500+ chips past production week 39 are factory multiplier locked. I doubt though that helped increase sales of the higher end chips, as most everyone is still hitting 2.2ghz by increasing the FSB to 200.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Not sure yet, due to install problems, I went down to 190x11 and it is rock solid. Had a definite problem at 3200+ (NF7-S has option to select 2500 or 3200), and one burp at 194 (not sure though, could have been another problem. So now wait a week, go up 2, wait another week go up 2, etc....

But based on this I would say not guaranteed. Still 2.1 ghz is close, and it may go higher. I used OCZ PC3200 CAS2 something. Not cheap ram, but not the best. Also, I refuse to up voltage and loose lifespan, or risk damage.

You haven't even tried 1.75v? I'm surprised you even got to 11x190. Oh well, it's your loss, man. BTW, how many years are you wanting that 2500 to last you?? You realize that in 12 months, it will be utterly outdated, right?

edit: I almost forgot to tell you, this is now the 11th month that I've had my T-bred B at 1.75v, or higher. It'll do 2400 mhz with 1.775v. Wanna swap??

 

[DerwenArtos12]

I would bet money that youw il be able to with 1.75 volts and inside three month you will be able to return to stock voltage.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Not sure yet, due to install problems, I went down to 190x11 and it is rock solid. Had a definite problem at 3200+ (NF7-S has option to select 2500 or 3200), and one burp at 194 (not sure though, could have been another problem. So now wait a week, go up 2, wait another week go up 2, etc....

But based on this I would say not guaranteed. Still 2.1 ghz is close, and it may go higher. I used OCZ PC3200 CAS2 something. Not cheap ram, but not the best. Also, I refuse to up voltage and loose lifespan, or risk damage.

You haven't even tried 1.75v? I'm surprised you even got to 11x190. Oh well, it's your loss, man. BTW, how many years are you wanting that 2500 to last you?? You realize that in 12 months, it will be utterly outdated, right?

edit: I almost forgot to tell you, this is now the 11th month that I've had my T-bred B at 1.75v, or higher. It'll do 2400 mhz with 1.775v. Wanna swap??

Hehehe, wurd. Feed that sucker some voltage, man! 1.750 is nothing. Now, once you start getting into the 1.8-something range, then you're talking some serious heat to deal with when running air cooling. My XP2100 does 2.100GHZ @ 1.825v...but it runs hot. So I backed it down to 2.00GHz @ 1.700v. This is w/a system that you can barely hear from 5 feet away.

 

[MichaelD]

Bump. Need to hear more before pulling trigger.

 

[JustStarting]

buy a proven clocker thats already unlocked on the forum. if you want to OC, don't take a chance on getting a locked one from newegg.

 

[KGB]

I got my XP2500 from NewEgg last August and it flies.
Using an Aopen Ak79D-400VN MB, loaded the OS and drivers etc. then immediately went to 200FSB.
Temps are great and using stock cooling.

 

[WobbleWobble]

Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12
I would bet money that youw il be able to with 1.75 volts and inside three month you will be able to return to stock voltage.

If you're thinking on having Windows running relatively stable, then probably. If you're thinking on being able to pass CPU intensive tests like Prime95, I'll take your bet on.

 

[JBT]

I would say that you are very liley to hit 3200+ speeds with one of these chips. just go for it, for some reason if you can't you will still be close.

 

[DerwenArtos12]

Originally posted by: WobbleWobble

Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12
I would bet money that youw il be able to with 1.75 volts and inside three month you will be able to return to stock voltage.

If you're thinking on having Windows running relatively stable, then probably. If you're thinking on being able to pass CPU intensive tests like Prime95, I'll take your bet on.

I have a 2500+ that i ran at 1.75 for about two months at 3200+ with total stability at prime95. Three weeks ago i dropped it to stok voltage and tran it for two weeks priming it on every boot. Now i have it at 2.5ghz with 1.85v.

 

[WobbleWobble]

I've played with a batch of XP2500+ chips and the odds of getting a Prime95 XP3200+ haven't been good. If you read this board, there are also many others who haven't been able to hit the magic 3200+ number.

 

[DerwenArtos12]

Originally posted by: WobbleWobble
I've played with a batch of XP2500+ chips and the odds of getting a Prime95 XP3200+ haven't been good. If you read this board, there are also many others who haven't been able to hit the magic 3200+ number.

Are these the newer chips or what? I got mine right about 4 months ago and it overclocks like a sob.

 

[WobbleWobble]

Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12

Originally posted by: WobbleWobble
I've played with a batch of XP2500+ chips and the odds of getting a Prime95 XP3200+ haven't been good. If you read this board, there are also many others who haven't been able to hit the magic 3200+ number.

Are these the newer chips or what? I got mine right about 4 months ago and it overclocks like a sob.

Chips were from the summer.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: WobbleWobble
I've played with a batch of XP2500+ chips and the odds of getting a Prime95 XP3200+ haven't been good. If you read this board, there are also many others who haven't been able to hit the magic 3200+ number.

Yeah, but you seem to be forgetting that ALOT of them were under the impression that they could do it with any motherboard, any powersupply, and their old PC2700 memory. The chances of being able to run a 2500 at 2.2ghz with a KT400 mobo, the psu that came with a $29 case, and PC2700 aren't very good. Most that I've seen who got a good board, a new 2500, at least PC3200 memory, and a good psu have hit it, or even gone higher.

 

[cowdog]

I have one of the earlier 2500+ Bartons, and I can run it Prime95 stable at 3200+ (11x200) on either my 8RDA+ rev 1.1 or NF7-S rev2. Currently I am running it at 11.5 x 200 with 1.775 volts on the 8RDA+. Idle and load temps are very modest (36/40-42). Active cooling on northbridge for both. Corsair XMS PC3200 memory in both (LL twin BH5 2x512 in the NF7-S). 2-3-3-11 timings work best for me, as many others have noted. There is obviously a hit and miss factor based on the chip, but mobo and memory (with good cooling, including northbridge) are significant.

Note too that I have better results now than I did many months back. Drivers and BIOS are more mature now. I have some Mushkin Lv II black PC-3500 memory coming for the 8RDA+, and I will push to see if I can go higher on the fsb. I am trying really, really hard to keep fiddlilng with my two current setups instead of succumbing to my desires and upgrading to an A64 system... just yet.

Good luck!

 

[gistech1978]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
Dang. Nothing's changed! From what I've been reading as of late, AMD's not producing anything higher than a 3200+ XP Barton...ergo, most "lower clocked" processors really aren't. *hint-hint* BUT, you guys tell me otherwise. Dammit. :disgust:

Heck, way back when I bought my XP2100, it was almost guaranteed you'd do 200MHz w/the right PSU and memory. Is it a crapshoot now, or do the same rules apply? I don't want to waste my money.

my 2100+ Tbred B is at 10.5x200 1.75v with Corsair pc3200
i cant seem to get it to 11X200 at 1.8 and i dont really wanna go higher than that.

 

[Sid59]

seeing how you'll prolly upgrade .. get faster memory PC3500 or the likes

 

[FrustratedUser]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
Allright...the bug's been biting me and I'm gonna bite back. :evil:

I'm going to wait for the NF3250 before moving to an A64 platform. That said:

I'm planning on getting an Abit NF7-S, using an SLK-900A and PC3200 (Corsair).

I want to do at least 11 x 200...preferably not at above 1.750 volts.

If I get an XP2500 from Newegg (I know the multi is locked) what are the odds of it hitting/not hitting a 200MHz FSB?

I haven't purchased a CPU in almost a year...last one was an XP2100 that does 200x10 with just 1.700 volts.

Hard to say the odds. Make a poll.

I got a NF7-S + XP2500 from Newegg and it hits 11x200 w/ Vcore = 1.75. It runs at 61C under full load w/ stock HSF. A bit high so I'm running at stock speed now. Just nice to know it can do XP3200 speeds if I need it.