"No Response" freeze up, is it my SSD drive?

TJones2

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Installed an SSD drive about two months ago, all worked fine but then one morning wasn't able to get windows (7) to boot from the drive. Reinstalled and from that point on, programs such as Firefox, Thunderbird and a few others when loading anything I get the message "No Response" at the top of the program. Everything freezes until it loads. Now, I'm wondering if its a defect with my SSD drive which holds mostly Windows 7 files or the fact that most programs are actually on a hard drive? And if its because its accessing the hard drive, is there a way to "fix" it so it doesn't lock up?
 

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Gigabyte ga-p35-ds3l
Port 5 (says its running at Ultra DMA Mode 5, when I had it on Port 0, said it was running at Multi-Mode 2).
 

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I would run a good few stress tests on the machine just to try and rule out any other hardware but it sounds to me like your problem may be due to the ssd.
 

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If I'm understanding correctly, you have Firefox and Thunderbird installed to your HDD somewhere? That isn't really an optimal setup and you're not making full use of your SSD's performance. It also makes troubleshooting more difficult because the problem could be either the HDD or SSD.

Try running HDTune on both the SSD and HDD and post screenshots.
 

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Couldn't get the Health option to work with either. Anything revealing?
 

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Like I said do some stress testing, Linx, Prime, memtest, and OCCT psu test. If you pass all of that with no issues then you are either dealing with a software issue or have a bum SSD. It sounds like the SSD to me.
 

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Couldn't get the Health option to work with either. Anything revealing?

If that big dip in the SSD performance is repeatable, you definitely have a problem. As it is, that graph looks fine to me. You could also run AS SSD for some more verification.

Your HDD however, looks to be really slow. I'd try moving your programs off that and onto the SSD and compare performance.
 

TJones2

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Are there any funny logs in Event Viewer?

Not really. What should I be looking for?

I've moved Firefox over to the SSD drive. Was working fine. Just put AdBlock back on, and things are not working well again. Might be AdBlock but not sure why its giving me issues now?
 

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Not really. What should I be looking for?

I've moved Firefox over to the SSD drive. Was working fine. Just put AdBlock back on, and things are not working well again. Might be AdBlock but not sure why its giving me issues now?

That's interesting. Try disabling AdBlock and see what happens.
 

TJones2

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Tried running HDTune and now HD Tune Pro again. Every time I first run the benchmarks, I get that dip in the same location, but if I run it again, no dip. The benchmark results are a fair bit better on HD Tune Pro. The freezing has happened more rarely since putting Firefox on the same drive.

Update: Have been switching ports around. No matter what drives in put in 1-2, I get Multi-word DMA. When I switch the HD with the SSD in 3-4, I always get the same result, UltraDMA mode 5 for the SSD, UltraDMA mode 6 for the HD. I think the southbridge on this motherboard is loopy.
 
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Tried running HDTune and now HD Tune Pro again. Every time I first run the benchmarks, I get that dip in the same location, but if I run it again, no dip. The benchmark results are a fair bit better on HD Tune Pro. The freezing has happened more rarely since putting Firefox on the same drive.

Update: Have been switching ports around. No matter what drives in put in 1-2, I get Multi-word DMA. When I switch the HD with the SSD in 3-4, I always get the same result, UltraDMA mode 5 for the SSD, UltraDMA mode 6 for the HD. I think the southbridge on this motherboard is loopy.

Do the problems seem to go away when you're using UDMA on both drives? Since your mobo only has the ports build into the ICH9, it's probably not a BIOS setup issue, but it could definitely be a small physical flaw in the SATA1-2 connector block.
 

TJones2

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Do the problems seem to go away when you're using UDMA on both drives?

No.

Since your mobo only has the ports build into the ICH9, it's probably not a BIOS setup issue, but it could definitely be a small physical flaw in the SATA1-2 connector block.

I've now plugged in a SATA DVD drive into SATA1, and have DMA Mode 2 on that. The SSD is still on SATA3 @ DMA mode 5, and the HD is on SATA4 @ DMA mode 6. It makes do difference if I move the two drives between SATA3 and 4.