No one's excited for the year 2100

[DHT]Osiris

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Jaskalas

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Thought this was a great rant
Nice... So.....

We are all kind of sitting by because, let's be honest, politics is not, and CANNOT, be a solution to this problem... or any of our problems in this country. Because even if you win an election, divided government. Even if you win both chambers of Congress AND the Presidency, some moron in the Senate leadership is going to hamstring your ability to do anything without the opposing party... Imagine that, our BEST case scenario... is that the Democrat Senate Leadership forces you to go begging to MAGA to pass anything. Even after you massively win the election. Holy Fuck.

When it is super majority or bust.... mother f@#$$, you are gonna bust 99.99% of the time. This country CANNOT be governed. It is ungovernable.
The titanic has hit the iceberg, it IS sinking, and there is no Captain. We are all sitting here biding our time... because we KNOW our time is already up.

Even if we wanted to physically do something about it, that's called force. Force is violence. Violence is NOT actually going to help because we are never going to survive that either. It is a lose/lose scenario and we're all just slowing backing up towards the back of the ship while the water is rising... hoping that after we inevitably plunge into the water, then by some miracle we'll get picked up by one of the VERY FEW lifeboats that exist.

Best case / peaceful scenario... is us diving into the frozen waters of the North Atlantic like those poor f@#$ers on the Titanic.
 

nickqt

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Nice... So.....

We are all kind of sitting by because, let's be honest, politics is not, and CANNOT, be a solution to this problem... or any of our problems in this country. Because even if you win an election, divided government. Even if you win both chambers of Congress AND the Presidency, some moron in the Senate leadership is going to hamstring your ability to do anything without the opposing party... Imagine that, our BEST case scenario... is that the Democrat Senate Leadership forces you to go begging to MAGA to pass anything. Even after you massively win the election. Holy Fuck.

When it is super majority or bust.... mother f@#$$, you are gonna bust 99.99% of the time. This country CANNOT be governed. It is ungovernable.
The titanic has hit the iceberg, it IS sinking, and there is no Captain. We are all sitting here biding our time... because we KNOW our time is already up.

Even if we wanted to physically do something about it, that's called force. Force is violence. Violence is NOT actually going to help because we are never going to survive that either. It is a lose/lose scenario and we're all just slowing backing up towards the back of the ship while the water is rising... hoping that after we inevitably plunge into the water, then by some miracle we'll get picked up by one of the VERY FEW lifeboats that exist.

Best case / peaceful scenario... is us diving into the frozen waters of the North Atlantic like those poor f@#$ers on the Titanic.
Well put.
 

FelixDeCat

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That will be the year I can finally retire thanks to Bidenflation. I will be 130 years old. :(
 

Indus

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Could have been perhaps, but it had to go "love is magic" and f things up.

On a scientific basis I agree but you gotta get through to those science is bullshit people with some movie magic and still make them understand climate change is real and they're killing our home planet!
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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Could have been perhaps, but it had to go "love is magic" and f things up.
They fucked it long before then. They had the tech to develop a bus-sized space launch vehicle that could launch and land multiple times without refueling or maintenance, including escaping a black hole gravity well, and you're telling me they couldn't figure out a way to build space or moon based farms to isolate crop growth from whatever disease was wiping everything out? Please.
 
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Indus

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That will be the year I can finally retire thanks to Bidenflation. I will be 130 years old. :(

Maybe you should tax the rich due to their GREEDFLATION.

Eggs $7 a dozen.
Home Depot tools marked up 400%
Nvidia graphics cards marked up 800%
Rents up like 300%.


Maybe it's not bidenflation/ demflation. Since it's not going to magically stop with a GOP trifecta. You know it, I know it.

It's GREEDFLATION!
 

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If you didn't suck so bad at the stock market you'd be retired already.

Like most right-wingers he was fed a steady diet of economic FUD by programmers being paid by precious metal dealers to scare people away from the markets and convince them that gold and silver are the ONLY "safe" investments. Like most right-wingers, he more than likely heavy bought into vastly over priced precious metal investments that not only are worth merely 2/3 of what he paid, but haven't even kept up with inflation.

The ONLY people making money off of gold and silver are the dealers who sell 30% over melt price and cheerfully let you cash out for 30% under melt price. That's it.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Like most right-wingers he was fed a steady diet of economic FUD by programmers being paid by precious metal dealers to scare people away from the markets and convince them that gold and silver are the ONLY "safe" investments. Like most right-wingers, he more than likely heavy bought into vastly over priced precious metal investments that not only are worth merely 2/3 of what he paid, but haven't even kept up with inflation.

The ONLY people making money off of gold and silver are the dealers who sell 30% over melt price and cheerfully let you cash out for 30% under melt price. That's it.
As with any gold rush, the only ones making money are the ones selling shovels.
 
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Yeah, I don't feel that the future is anything to get excited about. Climate change, even ignoring everything else, seems likely to mean it's going to be rough. And in a more general sense I think it's becoming clear that humans in large numbers are really bad at managing and organizing themselves. When the going gets tough, humans start fighting each other.

However, I don't know how true it is that it was ever any different - were people more optimistic in the past? I mean, dystopias were as common a thing as utopias, and there have always been fears about the world coming to an end. Seems as if when people consider "the past" they have trouble considering further back than one generation.
 

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Eh.

First, people were really exited for the future for like the last 100 years. For the vast majority of human history the average Joe was just excited for the neighboring empire not to declare war on his king and for him to get drafted to die in some brutal melee and his wife and kids to get raped to death.

One part of it is people were excited about the future because they were ignorant gits. They just didn't have a good pulse on what was possible and what wasn't, and people just went ahead and believed the hype men on TV.

Another issue is that today, people are just jaded as fuck. There is some really insane shit happening on the bleeding edge of science, we're peeping over the edge of the singularity, but we're so ass deep in worrying about "the woke agenda" and "will our democracy be here tomorrow" and not "whoa they just invented what?".

We need a new evil empire. I will maintain that the US and USSR were in a codepenent relationship. The USSR died and in a way the "modern" US died with it. All that crazy pent up paranoia and aggression toward the USSR turned inward and now here we are.
 

FelixDeCat

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Maybe you should tax the rich due to their GREEDFLATION.

Eggs $7 a dozen.
Home Depot tools marked up 400%
Nvidia graphics cards marked up 800%
Rents up like 300%.


Maybe it's not bidenflation/ demflation. Since it's not going to magically stop with a GOP trifecta. You know it, I know it.

It's GREEDFLATION!
I dunno. If we raised taxes prices would fall. ;)
 
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FelixDeCat

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Eh.

First, people were really exited for the future for like the last 100 years. For the vast majority of human history the average Joe was just excited for the neighboring empire not to declare war on his king and for him to get drafted to die in some brutal melee and his wife and kids to get raped to death.

One part of it is people were excited about the future because they were ignorant gits. They just didn't have a good pulse on what was possible and what wasn't, and people just went ahead and believed the hype men on TV.

Another issue is that today, people are just jaded as fuck. There is some really insane shit happening on the bleeding edge of science, we're peeping over the edge of the singularity, but we're so ass deep in worrying about "the woke agenda" and "will our democracy be here tomorrow" and not "whoa they just invented what?".

We need a new evil empire. I will maintain that the US and USSR were in a codepenent relationship. The USSR died and in a way the "modern" US died with it. All that crazy pent up paranoia and aggression toward the USSR turned inward and now here we are.
Unfortunately, with the world isolating Russia and now China in regard to technology and other areas, that would seem to provide more impetus for China and Russia to work more closely together.

I understand the reason why we are isolating them but we have to be be careful not to make them defacto military partners eventually. You can add NK to the partnership.

The US does not need to be the world's policeman and spend multiple trillions projecting power all over the world. We do not have the money any more IMO.
 

Indus

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I dunno. If we raised taxes prices would fall. ;)

Well you have to incentivize it.

Normal tax rate above 20 million per year = 99%

Create 1 million jobs for US Citizens.. tax rate drops by 75% to 24%

Import tax 10000 %. So a made in china hammer costs 500 dollars

That should just about about incentivize US hammer manufacturing.


Oh and don't get me started on can openers.. $6 chinese made junk.. they just don't cut cans.

Buy a Made in USA can opener or use a P-38.. cuts for decades!
 

sportage

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I still think my sister has figured it out. Cement!
More and more land is being replaced with cement, construction, roads buildings, parking lots. And when that natural land of dirt and grass is paved over with cement, thus the obvious takes place. Less natural grass land to absorb water and to give off evaporation. The natural ebb and flow is interrupted and the climate definitely affected.

Add to this the fact that cement holds heat and then gives off heat like a furnace. That absorption of heat from the sun then radiating that heat back into the atmosphere definitely warms up the atmosphere. Dirt and grass does not absorb heat like does cement, and grassland does not radiate heat back into the atmosphere like does cement.

People.... right there is the most plausible answer to climate change and increased seasonal temperatures. And, responsible for screwing up the weather patterns world-wide. You gotta admit it folks, what is happening is not good, not normal, and not typical to any other time in human history. And I do not see any way in hell to stop this trend or to reversed this trend no matter how much money we toss at climate change efforts.

To save the planet, we would have to stop building and expanding, then we would need to tear up acres and acres of pavement, and then replace that pavement with dirt and grass just as it was before. I don't see that ever happening. It will never happen.
And as we build and cement more and more this will only get worse Much worse.

Ok... a little fun game we can play.... Just imagine if you will.
Just imagine if you will a planet like the earth paved entirely with cement. What would you expect the climate of that planet to be like? Maybe that of Mars? Or that of Venus? Pluto? Well here's a shocker... that cement earth we imagine would never and could never support LIFE.
And THIS is our future.
 
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sportage

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PS. There are two ways to think of this.
One, is if the Sun suddenly increased its radiated heat by 10 percent. And second, if the earth were paved over with cement. In both cases the world would become a hellhole of a planet and uninhabitable.
I wonder.... how much longer will life exist on earth? Like the heat from a massive nuclear bomb going off, but in really slow motion. Frying everything SLOWLY over years and years.