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No oil and other miscellaneous dodged bullets

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gururu2

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This seems to be the year that my car tells me how much it loves me. Maybe.

Earlier this year my car gets rear ended. The other car front end is demolished. My bumper is slightly bent downward on the right side. The dudes Geico fixes it all up and pays the labor and 25% parts to replace the exhaust system from the CC to the tailpipe (It was old and corroded and the crash snapped it at the center pipe). They of course replaced the whole bumper for free. I had no injury whatsoever.

Later, I take into Pep Boys for a brake pad replacement. They returned it to me with a seized caliper and said that it was old and due to break. They offer to replace it for free labor and I pay for the part. Fine. They return the car with no brake pressure. I take it to another shop and they fix it. Pep Boys pays me back for the other shop.

A couple months ago one morning I decide to take side roads to work instead of the freeway. At a stop light the engine flat dies. I cranked it a good 15-20 times, call a tow and take it home. I pop the valve cover and see that the timing belt is snapped. My shop pops a new belt in and does a compression test. Compression! woot. Yes its an interference engine (Acura). No valve job or head inspection required.

Yesterday, I took my car to Sears for an oil change; its 10 bucks off all their oil services. I get my car and start driving home. About a block away my oil light is on. I panic, drive a few more hundred yards, flip a U-turn and back to shop. I pop the hood and pull the dip stick. Nothing on it. I insert it carefully and restart the engine to recheck light. Turn off immediately. I let the car sit for 5 minutes, and the dipstick is still dry. I tell them they forgot to put oil in the car. They concur and fill it up with the expensive synthetic stuff and tell me my next one is free.


I can't believe how much my car has come out unscathed from incidents that should have led to a salvage. I washed, clay barred, polished, and waxed it today. What a beautiful 1995 Acura Integra.
 
Originally posted by: gururu2
Yesterday, I took my car to Sears for an oil change; its 10 bucks off all their oil services. I get my car and start driving home. About a block away my oil light is on. I panic, drive a few more hundred yards, flip a U-turn and back to shop. I pop the hood and pull the dip stick. Nothing on it. I insert it carefully and restart the engine to recheck light. Turn off immediately. I let the car sit for 5 minutes, and the dipstick is still dry. I tell them they forgot to put oil in the car. They concur and fill it up with the expensive synthetic stuff and tell me my next one is free.

I would never take it there again. Forgetting to put oil in is NOT a harmless mistake; I'd be just as pissed as if someone left a rag in it. Just FYI, even though it sounds like you have a four leaf clover stuck to all four tires, next time DO NOT drive it after the oil pressure light comes on. Even a few hundred yards can be enough to do damage. It's safer to coast / push it back.

Congrats though, it sounds like you've really lucked out.
 
Wow, you're very lucky. Yeah- next time you see an oil pressure light, shut it off immediately.
 
I wouldn't have driven away without something in writing that said they had forgotten the oil. If things start going wrong later you don't have any proof that they could have caused it.
 
You started it again? After the oil pressure light came on and after you verified a dry dipstick?

I would be worried about that engine.
 
Originally posted by: Bignate603
I wouldn't have driven away without something in writing that said they had forgotten the oil. If things start going wrong later you don't have any proof that they could have caused it.

Yes, I am thinking about this. The car did not do anything funny (knock, smoke, shake, etc) while driving w/o oil and seemed jsut as normal after the oil was added. It was probably driven w/o oil for about 5-10 minutes total and not over 30 mph. I drove it all day today, paying close attention to any noises, vibrations or power fluctuations. All seemed normal.
Any idea what sort of things would start to flake out first if they were damaged by heat?

 
Originally posted by: gururu2
Originally posted by: Bignate603
I wouldn't have driven away without something in writing that said they had forgotten the oil. If things start going wrong later you don't have any proof that they could have caused it.

Yes, I am thinking about this. The car did not do anything funny (knock, smoke, shake, etc) while driving w/o oil and seemed jsut as normal after the oil was added. It was probably driven w/o oil for about 5-10 minutes total and not over 30 mph. I drove it all day today, paying close attention to any noises, vibrations or power fluctuations. All seemed normal.
Any idea what sort of things would start to flake out first if they were damaged by heat?

Heat's only part of it. There are bearings in the engine that require pressurized oil to function correctly. The bearing actually rides on a film of oil. Without oil the bearings will ride metal to metal and can have significantly higher wear.
 
Originally posted by: gururu2

A couple months ago one morning I decide to take side roads to work instead of the freeway. At a stop light the engine flat dies. I cranked it a good 15-20 times, call a tow and take it home. I pop the valve cover and see that the timing belt is snapped. My shop pops a new belt in and does a compression test. Compression! woot. Yes its an interference engine (Acura). No valve job or head inspection required.

wait, if you turn the crank in an interference engine with no timing belt aren't the pistons guaranteed to hit the valves?
 
Originally posted by: gururu2
Originally posted by: Bignate603
I wouldn't have driven away without something in writing that said they had forgotten the oil. If things start going wrong later you don't have any proof that they could have caused it.

Yes, I am thinking about this. The car did not do anything funny (knock, smoke, shake, etc) while driving w/o oil and seemed jsut as normal after the oil was added. It was probably driven w/o oil for about 5-10 minutes total and not over 30 mph. I drove it all day today, paying close attention to any noises, vibrations or power fluctuations. All seemed normal.
Any idea what sort of things would start to flake out first if they were damaged by heat?
As I have stated before, I have ran my old slant 6 dry of oil twice and it ran just fine. Not like I did it deliberately. Of course a slant 6 is nearly indestructible.
 
Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Originally posted by: gururu2
Originally posted by: Bignate603
I wouldn't have driven away without something in writing that said they had forgotten the oil. If things start going wrong later you don't have any proof that they could have caused it.

Yes, I am thinking about this. The car did not do anything funny (knock, smoke, shake, etc) while driving w/o oil and seemed jsut as normal after the oil was added. It was probably driven w/o oil for about 5-10 minutes total and not over 30 mph. I drove it all day today, paying close attention to any noises, vibrations or power fluctuations. All seemed normal.
Any idea what sort of things would start to flake out first if they were damaged by heat?
As I have stated before, I have ran my old slant 6 dry of oil twice and it ran just fine. Not like I did it deliberately. Of course a slant 6 is nearly indestructible.

What if you had paid me to change the oil in your slant 6 and after that you found it had been running dry? 😀

 
Originally posted by: PottedMeat
Originally posted by: gururu2

A couple months ago one morning I decide to take side roads to work instead of the freeway. At a stop light the engine flat dies. I cranked it a good 15-20 times, call a tow and take it home. I pop the valve cover and see that the timing belt is snapped. My shop pops a new belt in and does a compression test. Compression! woot. Yes its an interference engine (Acura). No valve job or head inspection required.

wait, if you turn the crank in an interference engine with no timing belt aren't the pistons guaranteed to hit the valves?

Not to mention that the timing belt broke when the thing was running 😕
 
Originally posted by: PottedMeat
Originally posted by: gururu2

A couple months ago one morning I decide to take side roads to work instead of the freeway. At a stop light the engine flat dies. I cranked it a good 15-20 times, call a tow and take it home. I pop the valve cover and see that the timing belt is snapped. My shop pops a new belt in and does a compression test. Compression! woot. Yes its an interference engine (Acura). No valve job or head inspection required.

wait, if you turn the crank in an interference engine with no timing belt aren't the pistons guaranteed to hit the valves?

Yes and for 1 week while it was in the shop I was certain that was the case. Every case I hear about the valves bend enough to lose compression, resulting in either frequent misfires or no operation whatsoever. Worst case, the valve cylinders get scored or the pistons bend/crack too. But those are the cases we hear about. I don't know if their was a guardian angel or what, but this happened in June, and the car hasn't had any issues since the mechanic told me it was fine.

I think the fact that the car was at a low idle and stopped on the belt snap helped. Cranking the car turns the cam, but hell, I thought I was dealing with a loss of electronic power while a line of cars behind me were honking. For the record, if a stall resembles a timing belt break, don't crank the engine. I got really lucky on that one.

 
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