No more term limits in Venezula

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
I don't know much about Venezuela, but I do know that proof by assertion is insane, as is questioning a claim directly after making it. Calling an referendum an "election" doesn't demonstrate a firm grip on reality either.

You should probably read a dictionary:

I am familiar with the definitions, hence my comment.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: MovingTarget

I do give Chavez credit for the good he has done, but I fear that his 'cult of personality' will be detrimental after Chavez is gone (democratically or otherwise) as his movement would fall apart and leave Venezuela with a power vacuum. Term limits here would be a failsafe.

On another note, how do you feel about this being called a 'Bolivarian Revolution'? Does it really embody the ideals of Bolivar himself, or does it dilute his legacy?

The cult of personality is pretty much standard in a revolution. Every revolution has their rallying figure from General Washington to Lenin to Castro the populism does not bother me. What the leader does with the power he has using the hopes of the people does bother me.

I think that Chavez has empowered the neediest in VZ. And tried to break the chains of neoliberalism like Bolivar from Spain. I have no problem with him using the term as long as it is the peoples, not his alone.

I would like to see the torch passed, and soon. It is only a matter of time before he gets frustrated and sells out to the bourgeois he fought against to get where he is.

But for what it is worth as much as the corporate media here has demonized him he has been a pretty benign president.

But his socialist revolution is not living up to the hype. Not worth getting into in this forum but a socialist revolution should have had a lot more results then he has shown so far, although he has made some progresses, I do not feel things are moving along as they had potential to be immediately following after the coup.

He had the almost full support of the people for the revolution then, this time is passing very quickly, and Chavez is looking pretty fat past few years.

If you want a more in-depth discussion without the talking points I suggest asking this question in here.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
I don't know much about Venezuela, but I do know that proof by assertion is insane, as is questioning a claim directly after making it. Calling an referendum an "election" doesn't demonstrate a firm grip on reality either.

You should probably read a dictionary:

I am familiar with the definitions, hence my comment.

Obviously you are not. Again, read the dictionary... a referendum is a type of election. You can continue to be a jackass and refuse to admit you are wrong, but facts are facts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referendum

 

[Steeplerot]

Regardless of the doom and gloom, he still has to be reelected. Which means he has to screw up, which he has not done yet enough to be unpopular.

Just wait and see folks, democracy can be messy.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: Mill
Obviously you are not. Again, read the dictionary... a referendum is a type of election.

Referendums and elections are types of votes, one term suiting the topic at hand better than other, as demonstrated in the dictionary entries you posted.