Let me see if this evaluation fits your situation and feelings.
1. You feel you have a legitimate complainant against your boss (basically a hostile work environment) , so severe you feel your only recourse is to quit.
2. You want to tell your boss what you think of him, but you are not sure what to say.
A possible course of action:
The solution is to write a letter of resignation and to clearly state the reasons for your resignation. I would recommend writing out all your ideas, everything. Organize it and write out the letter. Then have someone you trust edit out most of the emotional content.
I know that sounds harsh, but I have my wife do this all the time for my own letters I write when I'm mad, hurt, etc. in a business setting. The hard edged emotional content makes it too easy for people reading the letter to dismiss you as, well, emotional. If you boil it down to the facts and make your feelings sound like objective observations, then it is more likely that people will take you seriously.
Your letter should be addressed to your boss and CCed to his boss and your HR director.
Printout three hard copies, each in sealed envelope. Hand deliver your letter to your boss, inform him that you have resigned and then see the HR director or whoever handles the paperwork for when people quit or are fired.
Give a the HR copy and your boss's boss's copy of your letter to the HR person who handles your exit paperwork. Some places do exit interviews. You are under no obligation to go through it; do it or don't, it's your choice. Finish up your paperwork, which should include any pay and sick leave you are owed, take any personal belongings and leave.
The next day, email a copy of your letter to the same people the letters went to as a confirmation that they all received the letter. Make sure you put some type of heading on it to show that you have sent a copy of something that had been previously sent.
The last things to do are to let it all go, remember the lessons you've learned, and find a new job.
Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer and I don't give legal advice. When it doubt, get a lawyer.
I hope this helps.
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I love my boss. Everyone on my shift are basically friends, we go out drinking together, play soccer during breaks in the parking lot, stuff like that. We all know what we're doing and work hard at it, so he never has to come down on us, and he lets us get away with calling him names and flipping him off 
...it's like working at a frat house sometimes.
...it's like working at a frat house sometimes.
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Okay, well, I don't know that I'll reply to everyone, but here's some thoughts:
My boss just isn't a boss. I'm in a real estate office and he owns it. There's no HR department or personnel or anything. He's the only one I would go to. I'm scared sh1tless at the thought of leaving a job without one lined up. I know that isn't the smartest thing in the world to do. I'm just know, however, that when/if I went back in he would find something else to gripe about. His complaint about me is that I have 0 initiative. He thinks that I'm intelligent and stuff, but I ask too many questions that I already know the answers to. To an extent, I can say that I've asked questions that I might have the answer to, but I would only do it to make a correct decision. (I list properties for him on loopnet.com, the MLS, his personal website, etc.) He gets mad/frustrated with me if I ask questions. He said it's like two people doing the same job. I could see him getting frustrated if I were doing this 6 months down the road, but I haven't even been there two months, never worked in real estate, and was trained for maybe 6-8 hours. He told me that I would feel overwhelmed and need to ask questions when I was hired, yet when I do, I get in trouble for it. I'm made to feel like an imbecile. He expects me to get everything done in a day when not only do I have my regular stuff to do, but he'll throw multiple projects at me on top of it and since I'm still just learning, sometimes it takes me a while to do them. (That and the girl whose position I filled had practically NO filing system and was the only one in the office that knew where everything was. So to do a task, I'm having to spend half my time looking up the information I need which involves asking questions which leads to making my boss frustrated with me.) If I were to go back on Tuesday, I know I'd hear it for one thing or another. In some ways, I'd like to stay just to show him that he doesn't have the upper hand, however, I don't know if I can handle the stress. It reminds me of my 3 1/2 year relationship where I was regularly made to feel about two inches tall. (Sorry to all of you that know him, but it's the truth. I'm sure he would say something entirely different, but it's the truth and I even told him that.)
So. . .I feel like I'm in a catch 22. *sigh*
My boss just isn't a boss. I'm in a real estate office and he owns it. There's no HR department or personnel or anything. He's the only one I would go to. I'm scared sh1tless at the thought of leaving a job without one lined up. I know that isn't the smartest thing in the world to do. I'm just know, however, that when/if I went back in he would find something else to gripe about. His complaint about me is that I have 0 initiative. He thinks that I'm intelligent and stuff, but I ask too many questions that I already know the answers to. To an extent, I can say that I've asked questions that I might have the answer to, but I would only do it to make a correct decision. (I list properties for him on loopnet.com, the MLS, his personal website, etc.) He gets mad/frustrated with me if I ask questions. He said it's like two people doing the same job. I could see him getting frustrated if I were doing this 6 months down the road, but I haven't even been there two months, never worked in real estate, and was trained for maybe 6-8 hours. He told me that I would feel overwhelmed and need to ask questions when I was hired, yet when I do, I get in trouble for it. I'm made to feel like an imbecile. He expects me to get everything done in a day when not only do I have my regular stuff to do, but he'll throw multiple projects at me on top of it and since I'm still just learning, sometimes it takes me a while to do them. (That and the girl whose position I filled had practically NO filing system and was the only one in the office that knew where everything was. So to do a task, I'm having to spend half my time looking up the information I need which involves asking questions which leads to making my boss frustrated with me.) If I were to go back on Tuesday, I know I'd hear it for one thing or another. In some ways, I'd like to stay just to show him that he doesn't have the upper hand, however, I don't know if I can handle the stress. It reminds me of my 3 1/2 year relationship where I was regularly made to feel about two inches tall. (Sorry to all of you that know him, but it's the truth. I'm sure he would say something entirely different, but it's the truth and I even told him that.)
So. . .I feel like I'm in a catch 22. *sigh*
I don't mean to sound like an ass, but welcome to the real world. If your boss is a complete dick and the situation is not to your liking then get the hell out of there. In business, nobody cares about your personal feelings. I would assume real-estate is no exception. Best of luck looking for a new job.
I've been in the same situation (sort-of) and feel for you. Have you given it the "I'll-try-to-make-this-work-one-more-time" approach? Sometimes employers can show us some of our shortcomings (we all have some) maybe you could change some things or try to work something out. I would try to stick it out and find another job before I quit. I have had a very hard time finding a job after just quitting. I vow to never do that again. It seems like it "brands" you as a problem employee to potential employers. It is also more satisfying to tell your boss to "go to hell" when you have another job to go to, plus you will have a head full of confidence which makes it easier to speak your mind. Getting sleepy here, so I apologize for any ramblings, hope some of this helps.
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No, I didn't take offense. I know you're right that most places really don't give a damn how you feel. I just believe that I shouldn't be harassed. I'm thinking that I may call him tomorrow or Monday and just talk straight on talk to him and see what he says. Who knows. I may chicken out, but I might be able to do it.
Maybe the problem is with you? Does he chew out other workers? If it's only you, then maybe you are not cut out for the job. It happens to all of us.
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There's three girls in the insurance part and two of us in the real estate part. (He owns both businesses.)
I'm not the only one. When he gets on one of his tirades or has a bad day, he'll do it to anyone.
Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
You mean not even going to call and let them know? Just not show up? That's the best way to quit
Let em see how long it takes to figure it out. Nothing better than that satisfaction
Be even funnier if she got a paycheck for the first week of work despite not being there.
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I worked up the nerve to call the man today. After talking to him I really know that I don't want to work there. I was talking to him about my "initiative" issues and in retrospect I should have worded it differently, but I said that I was trying to change and wanted to be a good employee etc and he just simply said something like...You won't be a good employee until you have initiative. He said that he wishes me the best whether it is with him or not, but made up some other bullshit to make himself sound good. I told him that what he did to me reminded me of what my ex did to me and I don't think he liked it because he then mentioned my health. He was like....Well, I know you have a lot of health issues and I wouldn't want this job to take it's toll on you, etc. . . He did say that he admired me for calling him because it took guts.
Whatever. I told him that I wanted Tuesday off so that I can really think things through, but I'm just going to have to tell him that I've made up my mind to quit. I'll write him a letter telling him everything and just keep my fingers crossed for another job quickly.
Whatever. I told him that I wanted Tuesday off so that I can really think things through, but I'm just going to have to tell him that I've made up my mind to quit. I'll write him a letter telling him everything and just keep my fingers crossed for another job quickly.
Never, ever bring your personal life into a serious workplace discussion. Your goal in talking to your boss today should've been to gain the upper hand so that you end up leaving on good, but firm terms. If you want to be a good employee, you need to learn to separate your home life from your work life. Your boss might be a dick, but telling him that he reminds you of your ex-boyfriend isn't going to do you any favors. Bad move, IMHO.
+1 for just not showing up and letting him wonder what went wrong. People like that do NOT deserve the respect of even and email. Screw him.
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Yeah, be that as it may....right or wrong....I can't change the past. He knew of what had happened (long story) so it wasn't completely inappropriate, but not the best of ideas. We are (or will be), however, parting on good terms.
You should just get a group of people to agree with you and leave the job all the same day. He'd be in for a nice little surprise when he came to work and might think about what he says next time.
Actually most real estate office broker/owners are complete @ssholes. One of my wife?s friends took a secretary position job at one of the real estate offices and complained about the same things: No training and too much work for one person. The trouble with brokers is that all of their sales people are "exempt" employees that they don't have to pay. Hell the son of b!tch charges the Realtors a monthly fee for answering his phone. This d!ckweed then resents it when he actually have to PAY someone an hourly wage, God forbid they train you or give you any benefits.
Most people who have bought property (ie your next employer) know that real estate brokers are tools. Just tell them the truth that he never trained you then demanded that you do tasks that you were not given any instruction for.
Good Luck!
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