no mail delivery, now what?

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Pardus

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i'm moving to a new city, yea.. however, there is no mail delivery on my block due to some stupid zoning law from 1950 that no one ever changed.. the post office gives me a po box, they also say ups and fedex won't delivery to my building either.

so if i order something from newegg/amazon/etc, do i address it like ?

123 Anywhere St.
Apartment #123 - the po box
Any town, NY 12345

or

123 Anywhere St.
2nd Floor #4 - the real apt number
Any town, NY 12345


my concern is when they get to the building, they find the front door locked and no doorbell to ring or no apartment 123 and they just leave or will they go the post office and leave it with them.

never lived in a area where they don't get mail, weird...
 

xanis

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What kind of ass-backwards place doesn't allow mail delivery? That's just ridiculous.

That being said, I would think that you'd address it to the PO box, though I'd be willing to bet that it would still get delivered there even if you put your physical address in.
 

MotionMan

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WTF?

I would call your local FedEx and UPS hub and find out how you can get packages.

As for the mail, I would call City Hall and find out how to get that fixed.

MotionMan
 

Skeeedunt

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Last I checked Newegg gave you royal shit for trying to mail something to a PO box, Amazon and others might be better about it. See if you can FedEx shit to your work, and ask if the PO box will just put all your postal mail directly into an incinerator for you.
 

LTC8K6

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John Q Public
PO Box xxx
Anywhere NC xxxxx

For the postal service.

For UPS/Fedex, you need the street and apt number. They can't deliver to a PO Box.
 

DrPizza

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I wouldn't have believed that you could legally set up zoning that forbid the post office from delivering to your house.

Anyone able to confirm this? It doesn't seem right.

edit: after attempting to research this, it seems that USPS can't be blocked by zoning restrictions, but that UPS and FedEx can. (I found a few sources that show that this is one of many major advantages that USPS has over the other two.)
 
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lxskllr

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Credit cards are a hassle when your shipping address doesn't match your billing address. You're gonna have a lot of grief if you buy a lot of stuff online :^/
 

Perknose

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I wouldn't have believed that you could legally set up zoning that forbid the post office from delivering to your house.

Anyone able to confirm this? It doesn't seem right.

It be right. It has nothing to do with municipal zoning.

My last place was like this. The postmaster at my local post office showed me the PO reg in this huge book of postal regs.

IF your locality is considered rural as determined by the post office AND you live too close to the actual post office, not only won't they deliver mail to you but in my case I had to pay for a post office box or not get mail at all.

Unlike the OP, I had no trouble at all with FedEx and UPS since I had the entire first floor of a Victorian house with an enclosed porch, BUT as a ferengi getting rebates was a bitch since many rebate houses won't mail to a PO box because of fears of fraud.

Btw, that place was no longer truly rural but was still so classified by the post office so I was shite out of luck.
 

Perknose

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Aha,, turns out I was fucked for a PO box fee for all those years I lived there!

http://broadlandsspectator.wordpress.com/2010/02/07/free-po-box/

Residents living in more rural towns may find that the U.S. Postal Service does not deliver mail to their homes. Instead, those residents must obtain a Post Office Box in order to receive mail. Unfortunately, I have heard about people in this situation, in nearby communities and beyond, being charged a yearly fee for the post office box. If the U.S.P.S. refuses to deliver mail to your home, it must provide a no-fee PO box.

Typically, post offices in rural areas do not provide home delivery to residences within a quarter-mile radius of the post office, unless a residence happens to be on a rural carrier route.* In order to get your PO box, you must go to the local post office and fill out Form 1093. It does not seem that those eligible for free boxes are able to submit this form online, as paid box customers are. Form 1093 itself makes no mention of free boxes, so people typically are unaware they may be entitled to a free box.

Form 1093 does refer to a “Group E” box. This is the Postal Service’s cryptic way of referring to the free post office box. The Domestic Mailing Manual, a publication of the Postal Service, describes Group E boxes. The Manual’s provisions are also incorporated into federal regulations, per the Code of Federal Regulations, Title 39, Section 111.1.
The relevant part of the Domestic Mailing Manual provides:
“4.6.2 Free Box Service (Group E)

Customers may qualify for free (Group E) Post Office box service if their physical address or business location meets all of the following criteria:
a. The physical address or business location is within the geographic delivery ZIP Code boundaries administered by a Post Office.
b. The physical address or business location constitutes a potential carrier delivery point of service.
c. The USPS chooses not to provide carrier delivery to the physical address or business location.
d. The customer does not receive carrier delivery via an out-of-bounds delivery receptacle.
4.6.3 Additional Standards for Free Box Service

Only one free (Group E) Post Office box may be obtained for each potential carrier delivery point of service. Group E customers are assigned the smallest available box that will reasonably accommodate their daily mail volume. Eligibility for Group E boxes does not extend to individual tenants, contractors, employees, or other individuals receiving or eligible to receive single-point delivery such as delivery to a hotel, college, military installation, or transient trailer park. A customer must pay the applicable fee for each additional box requested beyond the initial box obtained at the Group E fee. The online application tools described in 4.3.1b cannot be used for free Post Office box service.”
I have yet to see any notice posted within a rural postal facility mentioning possible eligibility for a free box. Nor does the Postal Service make this information easily found on its website, which is why it is posted here in as much detail as possible. If you live in a non-delivery area, do not allow the Postal Service to illegally charge a fee for your PO box! PO Boxes can cost upwards of $40 per year, and the financially-struggling Postal Service has no incentive to hand out free boxes. The only charge the post office may legally assess is a minor one-time key deposit, usually a dollar or two.

If you already have a paid PO box, and believe your box should be free, discuss it with your local postmaster (and certainly demand a refund for any paid prior years). You have the relevant information on free boxes above, straight from the Postal Service’s own regulations. By making customers fill out Form 1093, the Postal Service knows your residential address and certainly knows whether it delivers to your house and if you qualify for free box service. By charging a fee for qualified residents, the Postal Service is committing fraud. Don’t let the USPS get away with it.
The bolded above is the reg I referred to in my previous post.
 

IronWing

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Address it like this:
ActiveX; The ActiveX Household; Grover’s Corners; Sutton County; New Hampshire; United States of America; North America; Western Hemisphere; the Earth; the Solar System; the Universe; the Mind of God
 

Pardus

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Address it like this:
ActiveX; The ActiveX Household; Grover’s Corners; Sutton County; New Hampshire; United States of America; North America; Western Hemisphere; the Earth; the Solar System; the Universe; the Mind of God

thanks all for the replies. i got a free po box and will try ordering something from newegg on tuesday as a test run.
 
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