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shiner

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I didn't put words in your mouth, I asked you a question. That means I want a clarification before I put words in your mouth. Lets get coherent on the meaning of a question mark before we jump up and down about the coherency of others.

Ok so you didn't put words in my mouth. You focused in on one point I was trying to make and then decided to twist it around into somethng it was not.
 

shiner

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
"No stomach for real war" he said from behind his gut strewn desk.

Wow that's funny.
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Even though at one time I was a bit chubby it doesn't bother me because it was found out to be the result of a thyroid condition. Now that I have medication it's not an issue. Still....nice that you feel the need to attack someone based on physical appearance. Tsk...tsk...tsk...I thought you were more "enlightened" than that.
 

bizmark

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Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
"No stomach for real war" he said from behind his gut strewn desk.

Wow that's funny.
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Even though at one time I was a bit chubby it doesn't bother me because it was found out to be the result of a thyroid condition. Now that I have medication it's not an issue. Still....nice that you feel the need to attack someone based on physical appearance. Tsk...tsk...tsk...I thought you were more "enlightened" than that.

I thought he meant "gut strewn" as in you had just killed a bunch of people.... :D
 

Moonbeam

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A question is a question, but if you want to twist it be my guest. And if I wanted to attack your person, I'd certainly bypass your fat gut and consentrate on your lard filled head. I bet in hot weather you can shove potatos in one ear and enjoy french fries out the other.

I gotta try this:

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Oh, man! I bet that shows you.
 

shiner

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
A question is a question, but if you want to twist it be my guest. And if I wanted to attack your person, I'd certainly bypass your fat gut and consentrate on your lard filled head. I bet in hot weather you can shove potatos in one ear and enjoy french fries out the other.

I gotta try this:

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Oh, man! I bet that shows you.
OW!!! Got me again....oh the horror....oh the pain....oh the like I give a rat's ass what you think.....

 

Moonbeam

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shiner knows what I meant, bizmark. Lots of putzes here like to take advantage of, and hide behind the fact that I'm too 'enlightened' to sling garbage in the gutter with them. He's implying that somebody of my caliber wouldn't think of calling somebody else fat. Fortunately, the Reverend Father gave me the day off.
 

shiner

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Don't blame you shiner. If you gave a rat's ass you'd be broke.
Not hardly, I have enough in the bank to survive at least a year if I were to lose my job or need to be off due to medical reasons. Thanks for caring though.....

 

bizmark

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
And if I wanted to attack your person, I'd certainly bypass your fat gut and consentrate on your lard filled head. I bet in hot weather you can shove potatos in one ear and enjoy french fries out the other.

I've gotta say, that made me laugh out loud. Where do you come up with this stuff?
 

etech

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Originally posted by: ScottyB
Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: ScottyB
Originally posted by: ScottyB
I don't see why all the other countries shouldn't "preemptively" strike us. I mean we have "weapons of mass destruction"(God I hate that phrase) and we are not willing to give them up. We have even used them in the past top slaughter citizens nearly 10 times more than were killed on September, 11 (not including the figures of all the citizens that some of our other citizens killed). I don't see what the problem is.



Well Scott, you have to remeber the facts. If another contry preemptively" strike us, they are evil bloodthirsty terroists, but when we do it, it is just self defence.


ScottB, are you going schizo on us or did you just forget to change screen names when you replied to your self?


I don't know look here


That did not answer the question. Just out of idle curiosity what other screen name were you planning on using when you replied to your own post. Or are you too much of a coward to admit your other identity?

With tongue firmly in cheek-
The best reason to support an attack Iraq that I have seen so far is in this news article.

Protest Against Iraq War Set in D.C.

"Saturday's march in Washington will begin with a rally featuring the Revs. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, actor Ossie Davis, singer Patti Smith and Ben Cohen of Ben & Jerry's ice cream. Also expected is Ramsey Clark, U.S. attorney general during the Johnson administration and a longtime critic of U.S. policy toward Iraq"


If those two nutcases are against attacking Iraq that can only mean that I should be firmly behind it. It's sort of like some of the posters in this thread. Between the schizo/double identity fools and the baby speak can't make a coherent sentence idiots the choice is really quite easy.

 

UltraQuiet

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Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: ScottyB
Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: ScottyB
Originally posted by: ScottyB
I don't see why all the other countries shouldn't "preemptively" strike us. I mean we have "weapons of mass destruction"(God I hate that phrase) and we are not willing to give them up. We have even used them in the past top slaughter citizens nearly 10 times more than were killed on September, 11 (not including the figures of all the citizens that some of our other citizens killed). I don't see what the problem is.



Well Scott, you have to remeber the facts. If another contry preemptively" strike us, they are evil bloodthirsty terroists, but when we do it, it is just self defence.


ScottB, are you going schizo on us or did you just forget to change screen names when you replied to your self?


I don't know look here


That did not answer the question. Just out of idle curiosity what other screen name were you planning on using when you replied to your own post. Or are you too much of a coward to admit your other identity?

With tongue firmly in cheek-
The best reason to support an attack Iraq that I have seen so far is in this news article.

Protest Against Iraq War Set in D.C.

"Saturday's march in Washington will begin with a rally featuring the Revs. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, actor Ossie Davis, singer Patti Smith and Ben Cohen of Ben & Jerry's ice cream. Also expected is Ramsey Clark, U.S. attorney general during the Johnson administration and a longtime critic of U.S. policy toward Iraq"


If those two nutcases are against attacking Iraq that can only mean that I should be firmly behind it. It's sort of like some of the posters in this thread. Between the schizo/double identity fools and the baby speak can't make a coherent sentence idiots the choice is really quite easy.

I wonder how many of those cowards will actually show up with the sniper on the loose.

 

Lucky

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I wonder how many of those cowards will actually show up with the sniper on the loose.



hopefully all of them! Maybe pat robertson and jerry falwell can be invited too! :D
 

clarkmo

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Iraq linked to Al Qaeda

1) Iraq invades Kuwait
2)Saudi Arabia is threatened by Iraq.
3)U.S. establishes miltary base in Saudia Arabia, obviously not to Saddam's pleasure.
4) Also not to Bin Laden's pleasure as he considers this base as an occupation of holy land, despite the Saudi govt's and spiritual leader's approval.
5)Osalami kicked out of Saudi Arabia and starts his terrorist fan club in afghanistan.

It's obvious that Osalami and Soddom are buddies in spirit if not in act. Saddam doesn't invade Kuwait, oSalami's got nothing to complain about.
Saddam's flaunting of UN weapons inspectors and the subsequent non UN reaction could only encourage like minded souls.
You can be sure that paying the families of suicide bombers is not the only contribution Saddam has made to terrorism.
So, it's not about the link from Saddam to Osalami. It's about the UN weapons inspectors.
Jeepers. There's also no evidence of his increasing the fat content in 1/4 pounders, but what's that got to do with it?
 

Nemesis77

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Originally posted by: shinerburke
Threat to the region - War with Iran

A war where you supported Iraq. Ooops!

They are building WMD and are seeking nukes.

So when can we expect US attack on Pakistan and India? How about Israel, they have nukes too? Oh, Israel can have nukes, they are friends of USA, Iraq can't have nukes because US doesn't like Iraq. Double-standards in action.

And about using the gassing of Iranians anf Kurds as an example of Saddams wickedness.... Why didn't you do a thing back when he did committed those atrocities? You knew what was going on, yet you did nothing. Now, about 15 years later you start to whine about those things because it's convenient for you to do so.
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: clarkmo
Iraq linked to Al Qaeda

1) Iraq invades Kuwait
2)Saudi Arabia is threatened by Iraq.
3)U.S. establishes miltary base in Saudia Arabia, obviously not to Saddam's pleasure.
4) Also not to Bin Laden's pleasure as he considers this base as an occupation of holy land, despite the Saudi govt's and spiritual leader's approval.
5)Osalami kicked out of Saudi Arabia and starts his terrorist fan club in afghanistan.

It's obvious that Osalami and Soddom are buddies in spirit if not in act. Saddam doesn't invade Kuwait, oSalami's got nothing to complain about.
Saddam's flaunting of UN weapons inspectors and the subsequent non UN reaction could only encourage like minded souls.
You can be sure that paying the families of suicide bombers is not the only contribution Saddam has made to terrorism.
So, it's not about the link from Saddam to Osalami. It's about the UN weapons inspectors.
Jeepers. There's also no evidence of his increasing the fat content in 1/4 pounders, but what's that got to do with it?
OMG THEY ARE ON THE SAME PLANET!!!!!! THEY MUST BE LINKED!!!!
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BeefJurky

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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Ladies and gentleman this is an exemplary model of someone with their head so far up their ass they can't see daylight.

Threats can come from anywhere, anytime. Why wait until something is just off our shores to react?
tell me, whats your list of countries that should be attacked because sometime in the future they might be a threat to the US?

Iraq
Iran
North Korea
Sudan
Syria
Parts of Pakistan
Parts of Indonesia
Anyone that harbors terrorists or actively supports terrorism
and just for kicks....Iceland
where would it end?


i'd assume it would end with iceland...
 

bizmark

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Originally posted by: etech
That did not answer the question. Just out of idle curiosity what other screen name were you planning on using when you replied to your own post. Or are you too much of a coward to admit your other identity?

Personally I thought that it was a fairly effective use of sarcasm on ScottyB's part. It made me laugh, and I didn't think that it might have been a Polgara-style f*-up until you brought it up. But if you're so concerned about it, why don't you ask the mods to look for duplicate IP's? b/c I agree it's a pretty crummy thing to pretend to be two different people in the same argument :disgust: but I really don't think that ScottyB would do that sort of thing, and judging from the body of his posts that I've seen, I really can't recall another member sounding like him at all, especially in this thread. (That's not entirely a good thing -- sorry Scott, but misspellings and bad grammar are salient characteristics of your posts.) Calling him out on it is a pretty serious accusation, and there's really no other way to resolve the issue.
 

Format C:

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Lets all charter a plane and fly to Iraq. We can each carry a flower to the honorable Saddam and all hold hands and sing as we share our love and bring about world peace and harmony. I nominate Moonbeam to lead our valiant group. Come on everyone, get high, grab a tamborine and a flower. We're going to be Moonies!
 

SViscusi

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Originally posted by: Format C:
Lets all charter a plane and fly to Iraq. We can each carry a flower to the honorable Saddam and all hold hands and sing as we share our love and bring about world peace and harmony. I nominate Moonbeam to lead our valiant group. Come on everyone, get high, grab a tamborine and a flower. We're going to be Moonies!

Yes because everyone who doesn't want to go to war in Iraq automatically must be supporters of Hussein. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Using that logic, just because I like guns it must mean that I support the sniper in Maryland and Virginia.
 

shiner

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Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Threat to the region - War with Iran

A war where you supported Iraq. Ooops!

They are building WMD and are seeking nukes.

So when can we expect US attack on Pakistan and India? How about Israel, they have nukes too? Oh, Israel can have nukes, they are friends of USA, Iraq can't have nukes because US doesn't like Iraq. Double-standards in action.

And about using the gassing of Iranians anf Kurds as an example of Saddams wickedness.... Why didn't you do a thing back when he did committed those atrocities? You knew what was going on, yet you did nothing. Now, about 15 years later you start to whine about those things because it's convenient for you to do so.

Good grief....have you not gotten the point yet that the reason we are going after Iraq is because they are a rogue nation that supports terrorists? Their leader is unstable and has in the past shown his willingness to use those WMD against his own people. Why do you think for a second that he would hesitate to use them against one of his neighbors or give them to a terrorist organization? The difference between Iraq, Pakistan, India, Israel, etc, etc, etc.... is that they are not rogue nations. Yes there are terrorists cells in in Pakistan but the government does not support them. I do think we need to go after those cells with our military and go after cells anywhere in the world they are hiding. This coming attack against Iraq is not because they have WMD. It's because they posses WMD and have used them in the past and will use them again. Israel has had nuclear capability for many, many years and they have never used them against anyone so your trying to compare them to Iraq is silly. Israel uses their nuclear capability as a deterrent much like we and Russia did during the cold war. Would Israel use them? I believe so but only if provoked to do so or as a last resort. Why are we "whining" now about Saddam's use of gas against his own people? As I said in an earlier post it's because back then the American public was not being affected personally by this and would not have supported going after him. Like I said earlier, in order for the American populace as a whole to get behind military action there needs to be what they see as an attack that affects them personally or something along the lines of an invasion by one country against another without merit. Most of the public here is blind to what goes on in the rest of the world and will not get involved unless something happens to wake them up. That something was 9/11 and the American public is now awake and will support military action to weed out terrorists wherever they are?...
 

Moonbeam

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SViscusi, pay no attention to Format C: other than to make sure he's not seated in the bleachers above you. When he hears the word "Saddam" he pees in his pants. It's how he got the name, 'Urine Idiot'.
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Threat to the region - War with Iran

A war where you supported Iraq. Ooops!

They are building WMD and are seeking nukes.

So when can we expect US attack on Pakistan and India? How about Israel, they have nukes too? Oh, Israel can have nukes, they are friends of USA, Iraq can't have nukes because US doesn't like Iraq. Double-standards in action.

And about using the gassing of Iranians anf Kurds as an example of Saddams wickedness.... Why didn't you do a thing back when he did committed those atrocities? You knew what was going on, yet you did nothing. Now, about 15 years later you start to whine about those things because it's convenient for you to do so.

Good grief....have you not gotten the point yet that the reason we are going after Iraq is because they are a rogue nation that supports terrorists? Their leader is unstable and has in the past shown his willingness to use those WMD against his own people. Why do you think for a second that he would hesitate to use them against one of his neighbors or give them to a terrorist organization? The difference between Iraq, Pakistan, India, Israel, etc, etc, etc.... is that they are not rogue nations. Yes there are terrorists cells in in Pakistan but the government does not support them. I do think we need to go after those cells with our military and go after cells anywhere in the world they are hiding. This coming attack against Iraq is not because they have WMD. It's because they posses WMD and have used them in the past and will use them again. Israel has had nuclear capability for many, many years and they have never used them against anyone so your trying to compare them to Iraq is silly. Israel uses their nuclear capability as a deterrent much like we and Russia did during the cold war. Would Israel use them? I believe so but only if provoked to do so or as a last resort. Why are we "whining" now about Saddam's use of gas against his own people? As I said in an earlier post it's because back then the American public was not being affected personally by this and would not have supported going after him. Like I said earlier, in order for the American populace as a whole to get behind military action there needs to be what they see as an attack that affects them personally or something along the lines of an invasion by one country against another without merit. Most of the public here is blind to what goes on in the rest of the world and will not get involved unless something happens to wake them up. That something was 9/11 and the American public is now awake and will support military action to weed out terrorists wherever they are?...

gawd, please get this, the terrorists that Saddam support are the Palestinian ones, and in the eyes of most the middle east they are "freedom fighters", did you even read my reply to you earlier?