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jlo82585

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Hey guys and gals, first time posting here so Ill give as much info as possible. First off, my rig:

AMD Phemom II 1075 X6
8gb DDR3 ram
730W PS
Nvidia GTX 470
500 gb HDD
250 gb HDD
ASUS M4A785TD-M EVO motherboard
Windows 7 ultimate 64bit

this issue began back in late April, I noticed usually when gaming that the computer audio was cutting in and out and frames were being drawn slowly, not that the frame rate was slow but like you would enter a building and there would be no textures for 30-40 seconds as the game slowly filled them in one wall at a time during this time you could move around the interior of the building at 40 fps but there was no texture. Anyway this started after a recent GPU driver update so I rolled them back and it did not make a difference, this was only happening on a few games so I just stopped playing them and continued using my PC for other games that didnt have issues.
After a few weeks of this I started getting crashing / BSOD's very often and sometimes after reboot my PC wouldn't post and other times It would restart like normal, I always got the same 3 BSOD codes: 0x00000050, 0x0000000a and 0x00000010. I ran chkdsk and HDD checked out, ran memtest and the memory failed, so I purchased and installed new ram and the BSOD's continued. all my temps seem good. I am set on upgrading my computer soon so I just dealt with it for the last few weeks until today. I decided to rule out OS corruption and reformatted both drives and re-installed windows and all my drivers. i left the house to get some lunch and came back to a BSOD again, 0x00000050. after a reboot everything came back up but now windows is not showing my F drive ( the 500gb drive) or my external 1tb drive? I went into the drive manager and found the F drive totally formatted with no assignment, when I left the house I had steam installed on the F drive and it was assigned the drive letter F. I had to re assign it and lost everything on it. like I said I am planning to upgrade to an i7 later this year so its not a big issue but I just would like to figure out what is going on. any ideas?
 
okay may have this one figured out, so I was on another forum and looking at a post with similar issues he was told to check his memory timing so I downloaded CPU-Z and lo and behold my timing was set to 11-11-11-28, after looking at the package of my newly installed ram it said 9-9-9-24. I booted into bios and found that the ram timing was set to auto, so I really have no idea how it got off. I set it manually and the PC booted and I was able to launch World of Tanks, this is where I found my second issue. I was playing on max and after a few mins I notices slight artifacting so I checked my GPU temp and it was at 102... I turned down graphics and played a few rounds but then it crashed with the same 0x00000050. after restarting I checked my temps ( only about 100 sec. after crashing ) my CPU temp was 57 and after looking on the AMD website the max temp for my CPU is 62. so im thinking its going to be a heat related issue. I have installed logging software to monitor the temps during normal use so the next crash im going to look and see what the CPU temp was.
 
Posts 1 and 5 do point to an overheating video card. I would first try dusting it out. If that doesn't help I would re-apply thermal paste to the GPU.
 
well nevermind that theory, it crashed overnight but after looking at the temps it was at idle, I also was monitoring CPU voltages for any spikes of any sort and saw nothing out of the ordinary. very frustrating... still plan to get a universal GPU and CPU cooler as I will need one for the i7 anyways. as a side note, ever since reformatting and reinstalling windows the crashes are happining more frequently. usually the same 3 stop codes ( 0a,50,10 ) but recently I have had 2 news ones that didnt create dumps but I saw the screen long enough to write them down, a 0x0000001a and a 0x0000003a. in blue screen viewer the main 3 create dumps that all show an issue with ntoskrnl.exe which is very vague but still points to ram even though i just installed new sticks..
 
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If you are sure it isn't the card, failing power supplies will give vague crashes like that (what brand and how old) and a have seen bad SATA cables cause issues, but not on mechanical drives.
 
im using a raidmax 730w psu on a system that really only needs a 480w psu. I havent had any issues with this PC since its creation 5+ years ago. I dont think its the sata but im not sure how to test, im am only running mechanical drives though.
 
My first guess would be that your 500GB hdd is slowly failing. They don't always go all at once, and bringing it back to operational doesn't mean it won't happen again. Remove (as in physically unhook the sata cable) that drive temporarily and see if your problems disappear.
 
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you can try reverse overclocking; go in your BIOS and set everything reeeally slow, cpu, ram timings, fsb multipliers, etc. if the system is stable, then start ramping up one thing at the time; if you can get that one thing up to where it's supposed ot be, then, put it back down and do the same for the next setting.
 
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My first guess would be that your 500GB hdd is slowly failing. They don't always go all at once, and bringing it back to operational doesn't mean it won't happen again. Remove (as in physically unhook the sata cable) that drive temporarily and see if your problems disappear.
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I thought about this except for as of after the crash where the 500gb HDD was somehow reformatted; there is no data on that drive, my windows is all running off of my 250gb hdd. now that being said I am wondering if that drive is any good, I may have to re-run chkdisk.

as for the power supply, I know its not a good one but it has lasted me without issue for 5 years now. I just figured when a PS goes bad it pretty much kills your system as far as not being able to use it until its replaced, and I can still use mine when it lets me. but I may buy a cheap one to get me by for a few months while i wait

and finally with overclocking. my mobo doesnt let me adjust really anything as far as voltages or multipliers. the phenom II 1075 is pretty well locked down unless you have the black edition so mine isnt overclocked nor do I have the ability to underclock it as far as I know
 
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as for the power supply, I know its not a good one but it has lasted me without issue for 5 years now. I just figured when a PS goes bad it pretty much kills your system as far as not being able to use it until its replaced, and I can still use mine when it lets me. but I may buy a cheap one to get me by for a few months while i wait
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First off, no, a failing PSU doesn't simply kick the bucket altogether, unless it fails spectacularly (flame out or somesuch). Most simply limp on, all the while with increasing system instability, that seems random in nature, and difficult to pin down to any one particular component.

Second, don't "buy a cheap one". That's what got you into this mess in the first place. (Then again, 5 years is about the limit on a PSU's lifespan, unless it has high-quality Japanese caps, and has a longer warranty than 5 years.)

So either way, you're due for a new, BETTER QUALITY PSU.

Look at Corsair, Antec, Seasonic, XFX, Enermax, and some Rosewill like the Capstone that are quality SuperFlower re-badges.

If you can truely afford only "budget" supplies, these are the lowest that I would go:

Rosewill Stallion Series RD500-2SB - 500-Watt ATX12V v2.2 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182076

ENERMAX NAXN ENP450AST 450W ATX12V Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194090

EVGA 100-W1-500-KR 500W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC 3 Year Warranty Power Supply Intel 4th Gen CPU Ready
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438016

All three were chosen because they have two 6-pin PCI-E power connectors.
 
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thanks for the help, after reading on raidmax I agree its likely my PSU. since I am about 4 months from building another computer im just going to ride it out and hope this PC holds up till then. the only gaming I really do in the summer is the occasional world of tanks battle so I should be okay.
 
just for shits and giggles, make sure your RAM voltage is correct. I've seen many times where ram is running at 1.5v when it should be 1.65v.
 
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