No hope in sight? Problem with computer

ElNiNoSt0rM

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Okay, the actual story is a bit longer than I will be discussing, but for the sake of time, here goes:

I was modding a friends x-box yesterday. I had decided (stupidly, evidently) to use my computer HDD to temporarily put the modchip bios onto the root and hopefully have the modchip OS detect and flash the .bin file onto the modchip. It didn't work, so I went to go put my HDD back into my computer and that's when the problem started occuring. I boot up, and I receive the following message:

Reboot and Select Proper boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot Device.

So I'm thinking, maybe I'll see if the HDD somehow isn't in the top of the BIOS priority boot list. I reboot, and it begins to post, then freezes (asking me to hit F4 to enter BIOS). I then manually enter BIOS and the only boot devices on the list are my CD drives and my floppy (but I think it's always been that way). I think this problem may have been caused by the reckless locking/unlocking of the HDD using the software provided with the modchip (don't know if any of you are familiar with modding at all, but unlocked = computer usage and locked = xbox usage (for backups and such)). So anyway, I figured firstly I would try to unlock the HDD on my own xbox which has a toggle unlock rather than allowing you to repeat the same action over and over. The unlock then fails, so I quickly begin to panic.

A good ole' format has always solved any problem for me, but therein lies the problem: I cannot, by any means, get the computer to boot from the Windows XP cd. With my HDD in, it sticks at the BIOS screen. Without one, it skips posting completely and goes to the "reboot and select.." error. I have tried the following in my pursuit to boot from the CD:

1. Clear the CMOS by changing jumpers, booting up, getting the confirmation, powering down, switching. Error repeats almost exactly (nothing changes whatsoever).

2. Removed battery several times. Nothing

3. Changed the IDE port to the one that the HDD uses thinking that the cable being used by the CD drives went bad overnight. Nope

4. Change the IDE cable itself, thinking something similar to suggestion #3. Same outcome.

What worries me is that even with a brand new freshly formatted hard drive, I will not be able to boot to the Windows XP CD and subsequently do a fresh install. It is POSSIBLE it is something physical, but unlikely, as the only thing I altered last night was removal of the HDD, tinkering with it in the Xbox, and the like. To prove the theory, I booted up without the HDD at all, and rather than posting it immediately displayed aforementioned error. I am seriously running out of options short of purchasing a brand new mobo and hard drive. Any suggestions are welcome. If you need more information that I probably omitted, do not hesitate to ask for it. Thank you!

-Matt
 

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Lifer
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Have you tried to boot with another different hard drive to see if the BIOS detects it properly?

What worries me is that even with a brand new freshly formatted hard drive, I will not be able to boot to the Windows XP CD and subsequently do a fresh install. It is POSSIBLE it is something physical, but unlikely, as the only thing I altered last night was removal of the HDD, tinkering with it in the Xbox.

Did you try a brand new freshly formated hard drive? That is the only waqy you will know for sure. Have you tried to boot with no hard drive from a floppy or CD ?

Here is what I think... The xbox BIOS crapped up the drive on a low level. Get ahold of the manufacturers Hard Disk Utility and do a low level format. If the drive manufacturers utility disk cannot see the drive the attached drive controller board is probably toasted.

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ElNiNoSt0rM

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Well I don't own a brand new, freshly formatted drive, but I tried the drive that had been used in the computer for many months, as well as the drive currently in the xbox (60 gb as well). I tried booting from a floppy AND a CD with or without a HDD. It insists on giving me that same error message. If there is no hdd in, it skips the posting entirely (to my knowledge) to a flashing cursor (like it would if you were about to see "Press any key to boot from cd...", you know, the standard Windows CD message), but it tells me to insert proper media or what not. The CD is also not the problem, as I've tried it in 2 other computers in the house and it boots from it just fine. I just don't understand how a messed up hard drive can mess up your mobo as well. It's baffling, especially after clearing the CMOS. Thanks for the tips, and let me know if you have any other suggestions before I dump another $130 or so on new stuff.

Also: The BIOS detects it, as in showing it in the primary master position (company and model number), but it won't get past the error message even with a bootable windows CD. It doesn't add up to me.
Edit 2: The drive utility for WD is Disc Lifeguard, and it seems I can't flat out format it. It immediately asks me if I "want to prepare it for use in my computer," then asks me if I want it as a storage device, or I want it as a boot device. I don't want it as either, but for the sake of formatting, I selected storage device. It then tells me that it cannot format a drive currently used as a boot device (which it is, on another computer.) Upon seeing the available drives within the program, it tells me that BOTH are C:\ and it actually adds both together to form 120.0 GB (my brother's fully functional C:\ and my drive). So naturally I can't format it using this program apparently. I tried "DBAN", but it would show that it was working but I was convinced that it wasn't, because it was stuck at 0.019 percent and went up by a hundredth every 5 minutes or so, while the kb/s dropped substantially and never leveled out, so I gave up on that one. Any other help would be appreciated.
 

benjamat

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Bit obvious but to get it out of the equation have you flashed the bios just in case something silly there?
 

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Lifer
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Try a low level format using the Western digital tools. I think you wrote to a bad place on the drive with the modchip bios software...

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