No Healthcare Reform This Year?

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: blackangst1

I think its funny that Obama says the public option "is just one sliver" when in fact that false-its the very premise of whats being proposed. There isnt ANY reform in the bills at all. Insuring the uninsured is NOT reform. Its welfare.

Wrong. It was most certainly not the 'very premise' of what is being proposed, and much to my dismay Obama signaled from the very beginning that he was willing to drop that proposal to get what he wants.

In addition, since everyone is already treated for free at emergency rooms if they cannot pay, in some nominal sense everyone is 'insured' however crappy it may be, changing how that coverage works is most certainly reform. You have been told this dozens and dozens of times, yet every new post you make you seem to act like it has never happened. Why is this?

I was going to ask if you read the bill, but I assume you have have (or as much as you can, same as me) and throughout the bill it is splattered with new coverage for the uninsured. That theme is (now was) woven into every part of the bill.

I was going to go on a link fest to prove my point, but the bill is essentially dead now, so it doesnt matter.

You're dodging, everyone is already covered at the emergency room. The only question that exists now is how to cover them most cheaply, so if you're mad about medical 'welfare', you're about 30 years too late... it's certainly not introduced in this bill, and to say otherwise is extremely dishonest.

What? I never even hinted at ER care....YOU brought that up...why? Im not sure. And who says Im "mad" about medical welfare? I think youre putting (unsaid and unimplied) words in my mouth.