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No charges for 8 LAPD officers who fired 100 bullets on innocent women

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marincounty

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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/no-charges-8-lapd-shot-innocents-manhunt-article-1.2511683

LOS ANGELES — Prosecutors are declining to criminally charge eight Los Angeles police officers who injured two innocent women after mistakenly riddling their pickup truck with more than 100 bullets during a manhunt for cop-turned-killer Christopher Dorner, according to a report released Wednesday.

The Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office said there was insufficient evidence to prove the officers acted unreasonably when they shot up the truck on Feb. 7, 2013, according to the report, dated Friday. When one of the women threw a newspaper onto the pavement in the early-morning hours, an officer believing the sound was a gunshot opened fire. Officers unable to see clearly into the truck sprayed it with 103 rounds, and hit seven nearby homes and nine other vehicles with gunshots and shotgun pellets.

Margie Carranza, then 47, suffered minor injuries from broken glass. Her then-71-year-old mother, Emma Hernandez, was shot in the back but survived.

The women won a $4.2 million settlement from the city.

In declining to press charges, prosecutors said they weren’t endorsing the officers’ conduct that day, but that they’re guided by legal principles.

Legal principles? What, like cops are always innocent?
They hit seven nearby homes and nine other vehicles with gunshots and pellets.
Two women were nearly killed-delivering newspapers.
None of these cops are fit to be on the street, they are reactionary thugs.
I call for indictments and the firing of the da and the police chief, these cops are a clear danger to the public.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/07/lapd-shooting-at-innocent-people_n_2638701.html
Officers from the Los Angeles and Torrance police departments engaged in two separate shootings Thursday morning in Torrance, Calif., reports KTLA. They had come across two different vehicles that were similar to the description of Dorner's getaway car, a gray 2005 Nissan Titan pickup.

The first shooting incident happened at 5:20 a.m. Officers from the Hollywood division of the LAPD shot two people who turned out to have no connection to Dorner's crimes. They were transported to the hospital with gunshot injuries.

The second incident occurred 25 minutes later and involved Torrance police. While shots were fired, there were no reported injuries.
http://www.dailybreeze.com/general-...g-of-newspaper-carriers-during-dorner-manhunt
he district attorney’s finding is similar to a decision in January 2014 that found a separate shooting involving Torrance officers was a “reasonable mistake.” Torrance officers who heard the LAPD gunfire rammed a pickup truck driving along Flagler Lane while mistakenly believing it was Dorner fleeing a shooting. After stopping the truck, Torrance Officer Brian McGee fired three shots at the driver, missing him. The driver was a surfer headed to pick up a friend.

In rejecting criminal charges, prosecutors said McGee acted in “an atmosphere of fear and extreme anticipation.”
 
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Again it could have been worse, those police could have been taught to aim... It's also interesting, but not surprising, that they were guilty enough for the city to have to pay out $4,200,000 but not enough for criminal charges.
 
As each of those 100 bullets were fired. They were probably thinking, this sounds absolutely nothing like what just came out of that person's car!!! We're fucked!

Newspaper hitting pavement vs gunshots, my oh my.
 
marincounty said:
Officers unable to see clearly into the truck sprayed it with 103 rounds, and hit seven nearby homes and nine other vehicles with gunshots and shotgun pellets.

Margie Carranza, then 47, suffered minor injuries from broken glass. Her then-71-year-old mother, Emma Hernandez, was shot in the back but survived.
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Whoa! They need to never be let out of the police station again! Imagine if they faced someone who was actually going to shoot back?
 
Dorner was driving a gray Nissan Titan truck, the two women who were shot were driving a bright blue truck. I don't know what the surfers in Torrance were driving.
Apparently when looking for a felon in a pickup, cops can just shoot at anyone driving any pickup, and it's all just fine and dandy. Disgusting.
 
This reminds me of the end of the movie The Gauntlet. How police can dump into a random truck because of a vague noise is beyond comprehension.
 
The more I look into this the worse it gets.
http://www.vice.com/read/what-happens-when-the-police-shoot-bystanders
Fearful that Dorner might go after a local LA police official next, Torrance cops pulled over Perdue on February 7, asked him a few questions, then let him drive away. A few seconds later a second cop car rammed his truck, and an unnamed officer fired three shots, all of which (thankfully) missed. Perdue’s attorney also alleges that he was dragged from his vehicle afterwards. Dorner, by the way, was black and Perdue is white.
Perdue wasn’t the only victim of the police and their sudden inability to see color during this manhunt. A pair of newspaper carriers—47-year-old Margie Carranza and her 71-year-old mother, Emma Hernandez—were fired on by LAPD officers that same day because their pickup truck apparently looked like vaguely like Dorner’s. That incident provoked a backlash against the LAPD after Hernandez was hit in the back twice and her daughter suffered a hand injury. In fact, Torrance police said they were responding to the report of these mistaken shots when they fired on Perdue. The mother and daughter received a combined $4.2 million from the LAPD for their troubles, while Perdue has refused to settle with the city for the $500,000 they offered him.

Sometimes when police shoot bystanders, it’s not quite as embarrassing as mistaking a white man or two hispanic women for a black male fugitive—and often, victims have a harder time getting compensated for their pain and suffering. According to a recent New York Times piece, wounded civilians in New York have a particularly hard road to travel when they sue the NYPD. As with many other errors made by the police, when the wrong person catches a bullet from a government-issued gun it’s assumed that such collateral damage is unavoidable. “The state’s highest court has recognized that police officers’ split-second decisions to use deadly force must be protected from this kind of second-guessing,” a city official told the Times. That’s apparently true even when it comes to the 2012 incident at the Empire State Building when NYPD officers shot a gunman but managed to injure nine bystanders in the process. Some of these civilians have sued New York City, but the city government is so confident in its position that it isn’t even offering settlements in those cases.

Sixteen people have caught in NYPD crossfires over the past two years, and the city has paid $18 million for similar cases in the past decade—but those payouts mostly came from older incidents. The NYPD is generally insulated from lawsuits filed by bystanders thanks to a 2010 decision by the New York State Court of Appeals that ruled police weren’t negligent when they fired at a robbery suspect who had previously fired at officers even though two bystanders were injured.'
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WTF. FKNY.
 
Victorian Gray said:
Gotta give people a chance to forget the incident first.
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I actually had a teacher in high school that taught this. He explained that every time something happens that causes a public outcry (he used an example of a plane falling out of the sky), an investigation is announced or a committee is appointed to look into it, allowing most people to say to themselves "Something is being done about it!". Months or years after the incident a report is finally released, long after people quit caring about the incident, usually absolving those in positions of authority and/or placing blame on the wrong people/causes. He taught this in the mid-70's so it's been happening a long time.

That's one teacher that said something that stuck with me all of these years...lol! Thanks Mr. Bryant! 🙂
 
What this should teach all of is when the state feels threatened it will stop at nothing to protect itself. Screw the citizens. It sounds like they had less rules of engagement than our troops in Iraq.
 
It was so painfully obvious that the police dispensed with all training during this episode and essentially became a state sanctioned lynch mob. There was no possible scenario in which this guy was going to be allowed to live.
 
How f'ing stupid do you have to be to believe the claim that a newspaper hitting the ground was mistaken for gunfire. They needed to drop a newspaper in front of the grand jury, and fire a gun in front of the grand jury. You'd have to be a moron to believe that excuse.
 
Sonikku said:
Why should the police be charged?

They're under no legal obligation to protect anybody.
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reckless endagerment? unlawful discharge of a firearm? attempted manslaughter?

all perfectly valid.

the officers did not know the identity of their target. without knowing the identity of the target, how could they possibly know it's Dorner and have legitimacy in firing? This could go to both attempted manslaughter and unlawful discharge of a firearm.

The fact that they sprayed over 100 rounds at unknown an target speaks to the disregard for their surroundings - property or people. reckless endangerment.


these cops should absolutely be punished. you think a normal citizen would get this kind of leniency? hell no. then neither should the cops.

honestly, i grow more distrustful of cops every time i hear a story like this. if another ordinary citizen kills me, there's potential for them to be punished. if a cop kills me, chances are they'll get a short term vacation at worst, and my family might get some money at best.
 
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