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No Breaks for "Mr. Danger": Chavez wins re-election by LANDSLIDE

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CARACAS, Venezuela (Reuters) - Anti-U.S. Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez claimed victory with a cry of "long live the revolution" as official results showed him heading for a landslide re-election win on Sunday.

Chavez won 61 percent, while Manuel Rosales, a governor of an oil-producing province who united the opposition, trailed with 38 percent after 78 percent of the vote had been counted, the National Electoral Council said.

Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez shows his inked finger after voting in a presidential election in Caracas December 3, 2006. (REUTERS/Miraflores Palace/Handout)
If the trend continues, Chavez, 52, will have a strong mandate in his next six-year term to press his self-styled socialist revolution and forge an anti-U.S. front in Latin America to counter what he calls the superpower's "imperialism."

Chavez, dressed in his signature red shirt, raised his right fist in the air and sang the national anthem on a balcony at the presidential palace.

"It's a great victory for the revolution," he told hundreds of supporters who chanted "Chavez isn't leaving."

He swept to election victories in 1998 and 2000. Another win with a strong majority would give the Cuba ally a clear mandate to scrap presidential term limits and create a single-party that he expects to lead in power for decades.

He also aims to take further state control of the Caribbean country's top industry -- oil.

A folksy politician who calls U.S. President George W. Bush the devil, Chavez is popular among Venezuela's majority poor because of his free spending of the OPEC country's oil bonanza on clinics and schools.

Rosales, 53 and a father of 10, draws his main support from the middle and upper classes in the polarized nation.

While he lacks Chavez's charisma, he ran a disciplined campaign that exposed Venezuelans' anger at rampant crime and their fears that Chavez wants to drive the country toward Cuba-style communism.

"INTO THE STREETS"

At Rosales's campaign headquarters, angry supporters chanted "into the streets, into the streets" in a sign that some in the opposition could protest the results.

But hundreds of backers of Chavez, whose campaign slogan was "red, really red" to reflect his socialist credentials, descended on an upmarket Caracas neighborhood that has been a political battleground and danced salsa.

"Rosales' butt ended up 'red, really red' after the whipping we gave him," said Iraida Martinez, a 39-year-old nurse.

Chavez, in power since 1999, has accused Rosales of planning to cry fraud if he loses and predicted he will try to create a political crisis to topple him. Rosales denies the charge and says he will accept the result if the election is fair.

Teodoro Petkoff, one of the most respected figures in the opposition, said the voting was carried out in a "satisfactory" manner and when irregularities emerged they were generally addressed by the electoral authorities.

The Organization of American States, which fielded dozens of election observers, applauded the "massive and peaceful" vote.

Chavez would be the fourth leftist to win an election in Latin America in the last five weeks.

Backed by hard-line allies in Cuba and Bolivia, Chavez has bolstered ties with more moderate leftists in Brazil, Argentina, Ecuador and Nicaragua to form an anti-U.S. front.

While the United States is Venezuela's top oil customer, Chavez has battled the superpower over everything from trade to OPEC to Iran's nuclear goals since he took office in 1999.
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The "haves and have mores" aren't happy, of course.

It's been a bad month for neocons and conservatism, here's to a new year of raining on their parade. :thumbsup:

So when is the "Liberal Media" going to start asking "Is this the death of conservatism?" 24/7?

*Update* Rosales Concedes


Here is a must-see film by the Irish back in 2002 about Chavez, the wildly popular South American folk hero without the American corporate media and Pat Robertson BS:

THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Wow, that video really shows where Fox News got its inspiration from.
The minority owned pro-us corporate media there is shameless in inciting coups and spreading outright lies about Chavez endlessly.

Fauxnews does have a role model to look up to.

Glad you enjoyed the film, those are some brave Irishmen to stay in the palace after the us backed military dictatorship threatened to bomb the presidential palace.

You see how the dictatorship first thing dissolved the Supreme Court, the attorney general, the ombudsman and the Head of banks at 46 mins into the movie?

They tossed the constitution aside just a few hours after they took the legally elected president hostage.

Shameful, then the neocon bush regime lackeys are drooling all over this new government.

Spreading Democracy my ass.







Here are some of the awards this film got, it is shameful how uninformed Americans are.


Awards 'The Revolution Will Not Be Televised'
has won to date include:

Jury Award, Best Documentary,
Malaga Int'l Film Festival (Spain)

Needle Award,
Seattle Film Festival (USA)

Le Prix George du Beau Regard International, Best Documentary,
FID Marseilles Film Festival (France)

Best Feature Documentary,
Galway Film Fleadh, (Ireland)

The David Wolper Documentary Film Grand Prize, for Best Documentary, 2003 Wine & Country Film Festival (USA)

1st Prize, Best Documentary,
3 Continents Film Festival, (South Africa)

The Silver Hugo Award,
Chicago International Film Festival, (USA)

24th Durban International Film Festival, Best Documentary
eThekwini Film Award

'KITE' Award for Best Documentary,
2º Festival Internacional de Cine para la Infancia y la Juventud,
Buenos Aires, Argentina

Best Documentary,
16th Seagate Foyle Film Festival, Northern Ireland

'Special Mention' from the International Jury of the
44th Festival dei Popoli, Florence Film Festival

Milagro Award for Best Latino film,
Santa Fe Film Festival, USA

Best Documentary,
International Documentary Awards (IDA?s), USA

Global Television Grand Prix,
Banff 2003 Television Festival

Best Social and Political Documentary,
Banff 2003 Television Festival

Golden Nymph Award,
Monte Carlo

Golden Link Award,
EBU European Co-production of the Year

Best Documentary
Prix Italia 2003

Best Documentary
ESB Media Awards

Overall Award for Best Journalism
ESB Media Awards

Best International Documentary,
Grierson 2003: The British Documentary Awards

Best Newcomer Award,
Grierson 2003: The British Documentary Awards


NOMINATIONS FOR AWARDS YET TO BE ANNOUNCED:
Nominee for this years Directors Guild Awards, London

Nominee for the Adolf-Grimme-Preis,
(German Televisions most prestigious award)
 

miketheidiot

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i don't particularly like chavez, and he isn't exactly a beacon of democratic principles, but it seems his opponents in country are even worse.
 

bamacre

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Too bad he's a "religious whacko wingnut," or I bet he'd be your hero, Steeplerot. ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Chavez

Chávez is of Roman Catholic heritage, although he has had a series of disputes with both the Venezuelan Catholic clergy and the Protestant church hierarchies. He has traditionally kept his own faith a private matter, but over the course of his presidency, Chávez has become increasingly open to discussing his religious views, stating that both his faith and his interpretation of Jesus' personal life and ideology have had a profound impact on his leftist and progressivist views. He often invokes God and asks for prayer in speeches, as he did when he asked Venezuelans to pray for Fidel Castro.
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: bamacre
Too bad he's a "religious whacko wingnut," or I bet he'd be your hero, Steeplerot. ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Chavez

Chávez is of Roman Catholic heritage, although he has had a series of disputes with both the Venezuelan Catholic clergy and the Protestant church hierarchies. He has traditionally kept his own faith a private matter, but over the course of his presidency, Chávez has become increasingly open to discussing his religious views, stating that both his faith and his interpretation of Jesus' personal life and ideology have had a profound impact on his leftist and progressivist views. He often invokes God and asks for prayer in speeches, as he did when he asked Venezuelans to pray for Fidel Castro.

It is his decision personally not mine. :cookie:

Anyhow, christers could learn a few lessons from their jesus, that is the ones who know of him.

I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians -Ghandi


The concept of morality has nothing to do with a book or teacher, those are just passed down folklore anyhow.

Same concepts can be found in chimpanzee society that displays reciprocal altruism and kin selection.

Thing is chimps don't have all the baggage we drag along from being told the obvious along with a whole lot of hate, wars and divisiveness that comes along with maintaining religious institutions and customs.

Reciprocal Sharing in Chimps -Do unto others as you would have done unto you

Sadly you all think your fairy dictates something to you any monkey already knows :laugh:

Silly monkey!


Anyhow, take this stuff to the logic thread, this is way offtrack.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: bamacre
Too bad he's a "religious whacko wingnut," or I bet he'd be your hero, Steeplerot. ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Chavez

Chávez is of Roman Catholic heritage, although he has had a series of disputes with both the Venezuelan Catholic clergy and the Protestant church hierarchies. He has traditionally kept his own faith a private matter, but over the course of his presidency, Chávez has become increasingly open to discussing his religious views, stating that both his faith and his interpretation of Jesus' personal life and ideology have had a profound impact on his leftist and progressivist views. He often invokes God and asks for prayer in speeches, as he did when he asked Venezuelans to pray for Fidel Castro.

It is his decision personally not mine. :cookie:

Anyhow, christers could learn a few lessons from their jesus, that is the ones who know of him.

I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians -Ghandi

That is certanly a stretch from other remarks you have made elsewhere, such as...

Originally posted by: bamacre
In 50 years or so hopefully more people will have given up on fairy tales

Bad parenting teaching these old myths that divide people ftl.
Maybe your hero, Chavez, can at least help you to learn that it is not the religion you should look down upon, but the actions of some of it's "followers." Because certainly, as you can see, there is one hell of a difference.

And I could not agree with you more, some Christians are not acting like Christians. And I have a lot of respect for Mr. Ghandi, as well.

(When asked if he was a Hindu) "Yes I am, I am also a Muslim, a Christian, a Buddhist, and a Jew. ? - Ghandi
 
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Wootness!!!

Actually I'm not as big a Chavez fan as I once was, but I still like anything that stands against America.
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: bamacre

Maybe your hero, Chavez, can at least help you to learn that it is not the religion you should look down upon, but the actions of some of it's "followers." Because certainly, as you can see, there is one hell of a difference.

And I could not agree with you more, some Christians are not acting like Christians. And I have a lot of respect for Mr. Ghandi, as well.
I do not really see the difference, but spirituality is ones own choice, I think it is tasteless to teach innocent children hate and divisiveness from an early age though.

Plenty of excuses people given about radicals etc. but when it is so part of a society and is a repeating problem, well.

We will have to agree to disagree on most points here, now please, we have a logic thread for endless religion comments, I am always willing to debate on it also as I have pretty strong opinions on the matter.
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Wootness!!!

Actually I'm not as big a Chavez fan as I once was, but I still like anything that stands against America.
I agree, I have always been pretty cautious but as long as he stays positive Viva Chavez! Viva Democracy, Viva the People, Viva Freedom and long live The revolution.

I am not anti-american though, more like anti bush regime establishment. But I am sure this is what you meant.
 
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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Wootness!!!

Actually I'm not as big a Chavez fan as I once was, but I still like anything that stands against America.
I agree, I have always been pretty cautious but as long as he stays positive Viva Chavez! Viva Democracy, Viva the People, Viva Freedom and long live The revolution.

I am not anti-american though, more like anti bush regime establishment. But I am sure this is what you meant.
Well, definitely anti-bush...but moreover anti-american corporatism/capitalism, anti-american foreign policy, anti-american imperialism, etc. The US has a really crappy oversees record, especially in latin america. We're not just talking bush, we're talking back to founding days. It's good to see them rising up and growing a pair.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: bamacre

Maybe your hero, Chavez, can at least help you to learn that it is not the religion you should look down upon, but the actions of some of it's "followers." Because certainly, as you can see, there is one hell of a difference.

And I could not agree with you more, some Christians are not acting like Christians. And I have a lot of respect for Mr. Ghandi, as well.
I do not really see the difference, but spirituality is ones own choice, I think it is tasteless to teach innocent children hate and divisiveness from an early age though.

Plenty of excuses people given about radicals etc. but when it is so part of a society and is a repeating problem, well.

We will have to agree to disagree on most points here, now please, we have a logic thread for endless religion comments, I am always willing to debate on it also as I have pretty strong opinions on the matter.
How can you not see the difference?

Certainly you can see the difference between people like Chavez and people like Bush? Certainly you can see the difference between people like Mother Teresa and Pat Robertson? Certainly you can see the difference between people like Ghandi and people like Rumsfeld? Was Ghandi taught to hate? Was Mother Teresa taught to hate? I know I was not.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
I am not anti-american though, more like anti bush regime establishment. But I am sure this is what you meant.
You can see the difference between what America represents and what the Bush regime represents. That is good. Maybe someday you will see the difference between what religion represents, and what some of it's followers represent.
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Wootness!!!

Actually I'm not as big a Chavez fan as I once was, but I still like anything that stands against America.
I agree, I have always been pretty cautious but as long as he stays positive Viva Chavez! Viva Democracy, Viva the People, Viva Freedom and long live The revolution.

I am not anti-american though, more like anti bush regime establishment. But I am sure this is what you meant.
Well, definitely anti-bush...but moreover anti-american corporatism/capitalism, anti-american foreign policy, anti-american imperialism, etc. The US has a really crappy oversees record, especially in latin america. We're not just talking bush, we're talking back to founding days. It's good to see them rising up and growing a pair.

I hear you loud and clear, you got a hell yeah coming your way :thumbsup:
 

Genx87

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The minority owned pro-us corporate media there is shameless in inciting coups and spreading outright lies about Chavez endlessly.
So is Chavez, except he actually leads them instead of inciting them.

 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Wootness!!!

Actually I'm not as big a Chavez fan as I once was, but I still like anything that stands against America.
I agree, I have always been pretty cautious but as long as he stays positive Viva Chavez! Viva Democracy, Viva the People, Viva Freedom and long live The revolution.

I am not anti-american though, more like anti bush regime establishment. But I am sure this is what you meant.
Well, definitely anti-bush...but moreover anti-american corporatism/capitalism, anti-american foreign policy, anti-american imperialism, etc. The US has a really crappy oversees record, especially in latin america. We're not just talking bush, we're talking back to founding days. It's good to see them rising up and growing a pair.
I would encourage you to move to Venezuela then that way you can really rage against the machine.

The whole country is like a Pinko Bedwetter theme park, you'd love it.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: senseamp
Wow, that video really shows where Fox News got its inspiration from.
The minority owned pro-us corporate media there is shameless in inciting coups and spreading outright lies about Chavez endlessly.
Eager to spread the good word on Iran, North Korea and Cuba's newest member in their alliance against us eh? They do so love your home grown dissident support to keep us pacified as they all develop nuclear weapons in preparation for the coming war.

Make no mistake about it, by 2020 every member of their alliance will be a nuclear power if it does not happen much sooner through their trade relations.

Lift Chavez up on the liberal pedestal all you want, the moment he publicly announces his nuclear technology Venezuela should be destroyed.
 

Steeplerot

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: senseamp
Wow, that video really shows where Fox News got its inspiration from.
The minority owned pro-us corporate media there is shameless in inciting coups and spreading outright lies about Chavez endlessly.
Eager to spread the good word on Iran, North Korea and Cuba's newest member in their alliance against us eh? They do so love your home grown dissident support to keep us pacified as they all develop nuclear weapons in preparation for the coming war.

Make no mistake about it, by 2020 every member of their alliance will be a nuclear power if it does not happen much sooner through their trade relations.

Lift Chavez up on the liberal pedestal all you want, the moment he publicly announces his nuclear technology Venezuela should be destroyed.
Climb back under your bed, I hear Achmed is making the rounds with his sabre today in your 'hood. :roll:
 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: ayabe


The whole country is like a Pinko Bedwetter theme park, you'd love it.
Thank you sen. mccarthy :roll:
The problem I have with your point of view is that you want to rail against American foreign policy, and American imperialism etc, but you have no problem at all with indulging in the benefits of these "unholy" practices. So put up or shut up, go live in Venezuela, that at least wouldn't make you a hypocrite.
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: ayabe


The whole country is like a Pinko Bedwetter theme park, you'd love it.
Thank you sen. mccarthy :roll:
The problem I have with your point of view is that you want to rail against American foreign policy, and American imperialism etc, but you have no problem at all with indulging in the benefits of these "unholy" practices. So put up or shut up, go live in Venezuela, that at least wouldn't make you a hypocrite.
I am a American, a voter, and concerned, I can do as I wish, thanks and go cheney yourself.
 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: ayabe


The whole country is like a Pinko Bedwetter theme park, you'd love it.
Thank you sen. mccarthy :roll:
The problem I have with your point of view is that you want to rail against American foreign policy, and American imperialism etc, but you have no problem at all with indulging in the benefits of these "unholy" practices. So put up or shut up, go live in Venezuela, that at least wouldn't make you a hypocrite.
I am a American, a voter, and concerned, I can do as I wish, thanks and go cheney yourself.
Well thanks for admitting that you are a weekend warrior at best. Hope you like your Ipod made by slave labor in China.
 

Craig234

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What many of us are happy to see - oh, let's call us 'supporters of democracy' - is democracy work in places like Venezuela in electing people who will represent the people, rather than be puppets of foreign interests, largely meaning US corporations and the government serving them.

It's not anti-US; it's recognizing the 'absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely' principle which can lead the US to become a big bully nation simply oppressing other American nations economically, often through brutal means, and it's praising when the *corrupt* aspects are challenged by those nations.

When the US treats them well and fairly, we look for those nations to have good relations with the US, and if they don't, they can be criticized.

IMO, those who demand the other nations lie down and let their governments serve foreign corporations are like any other evil badtards in history, though admittedly they are often simply crminally ignorant about the situation and think they're supporting something else.

It reminds me a little of the apartheid divisions in the US earlier - divided between those who wanted to stand against apartheid on the left, and the right who didn't exactly like apartheid, but opposed whatever the left wanted just out of obstinence and were too lazy to get too informed or concerned, and saw no reason to change their spending habits.

"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

- The summary of the modern republican voter who votes in evil out of ignorance
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Wootness!!!

Actually I'm not as big a Chavez fan as I once was, but I still like anything that stands against America.
I agree, I have always been pretty cautious but as long as he stays positive Viva Chavez! Viva Democracy, Viva the People, Viva Freedom and long live The revolution.

I am not anti-american though, more like anti bush regime establishment. But I am sure this is what you meant.
Yes, Viva punishing the Middle class, Viva punishing the rich, Viva eliminating presidential term limits, Viva eliminating ownership of businesses, Viva confiscation of land.

Chavez is the farthest from Democracy you can get unless you step into communism.
 

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