NK warns of 'horrifying disasters'

[Tripleshot]

I just switched out of the forums to check sport scores, and this threat caught my eye. Why is it he (Kim Jong II) has such confidence he can wreak such havoc across the globe? This piss ant could be dropped by the South Korean's at any time we said 'go get him'. Who does he think he is? this midget hitler has got to go. If Bush doesn't call his bluff, Bush is a wuss. We have the armorment, the intellegence, and enough nukes in subs off the coast of Korea to toast this screwball, surgically. The B1's and B52's are a hop skip and a jump from being able to carpet bomb every one of NK's nuclear facilities,with little threat to the populace, except those in the cross hairs. Man , this punk pisses me off.

I absolutlely want to see a firm response from our government,---screw diplomacy. This bastyard is provoking us and wants a fight. Lets give him one.:|

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[ElFenix]

only someone out of touch with reality could believe they could wreak havoc across the globe as a tin-cup dictator. he might just be screaming for attention though.

 

[Maharaja]

That sort of talk is nothing new coming from North Korea. We're not going to attack though because the stakes are too high. Yes it's obvious we would win a war against them but I don't think we want to pay the cost of that war. North Korea has over a million soldiers, 2 nuclear bombs, missles capable of hitting Japan and missles only 5 minutes time away from Seoul. It's not just a matter of us giving them a fight because we would end up dragging our allies into a bloody war.

 

[Tripleshot]

Originally posted by: Maharaja
That sort of talk is nothing new coming from North Korea. We're not going to attack though because the stakes are too high. Yes it's obvious we would win a war against them but I don't think we want to pay the cost of that war. North Korea has over a million soldiers, 2 nuclear bombs, missles capable of hitting Japan and missles only 5 minutes time away from Seoul. It's not just a matter of us giving them a fight because we would end up dragging our allies into a bloody war.

Then send in the A team, sport fans. A regime change is needed here way more than Iraq. Our priorities seem misplaced.

 

This is a standard practice of N.Korea, they bitch and moan, threaten it's nieghbors and the U.S. so as to gain leverage in the world community, they are in fact looking for concessions with the U.N. regarding the world economy.

Notice that they only do this when the U.S. is readying for war with another country.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

So if he is as toothless as you indicate, why do you care what he says? When I was a bouncer years ago, the little guys were the ones with the big mouths (as a rule).Know what we did? Look at them and leave them be. What we did not do was lose our temper. Why did we need to? We knew we could kick their butts. That was sufficient for our ego. When the occasion required, people left when we asked them. If NK is a real problem, then take steps that are prudent, but don't act out of anger. That ultimately works against you.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Tripleshot
I just switched out of the forums to check sport scores, and this threat caught my eye. Why is it he (Kim Jong II) has such confidence he can wreak such havoc across the globe? This piss ant could be dropped by the South Korean's at any time we said 'go get him'. Who does he think he is? this midget hitler has got to go. If Bush doesn't call his bluff, Bush is a wuss. We have the armorment, the intellegence, and enough nukes in subs off the coast of Korea to toast this screwball, surgically. The B1's and B52's are a hop skip and a jump from being able to carpet bomb every one of NK's nuclear facilities,with little threat to the populace, except those in the cross hairs. Man , this punk pisses me off.

I absolutlely want to see a firm response from our government,---screw diplomacy. This bastyard is provoking us and wants a fight. Lets give him one.:|

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he's trying to push our buttons and provoke an irresponsible response. Let's not give in to him. Ignoring this hitler wanna-be is a more painful response than actually paying attention to him.

 

[jjones]

LOL, that's the funniest thing I've read since the last time CNN reported NK talking out its ass.

 

[Maharaja]

Yeah if our goal is to prevent future threats to the US then I definitely think our priorities are all wrong. North Korea is a far greater threat than Iraq. North Koreans have nuclear weapons and missles capable of hitting the US west coast. All they have to do is work on fitting their nukes into a warhead, which I don't think they have done yet.
Of course Iraq is more valuable than North Korea for 2 reasons I can see. Obviously one is oil. Having the 2nd largest oil deposits is a good thing today. Creating a stable & friendly Iraq would be beneficial to oil prices. Also, given our recent tension with Saudi Arabia, it would be highly beneficial to our foreign relations to create a new middle east ally without all the baggage that Saudi Arabia has. So strategically an Iraq war is far more important.

 

[Tripleshot]

Originally posted by: Roger
This is a standard practice of N.Korea, they bitch and moan, threaten it's nieghbors and the U.S. so as to gain leverage in the world community, they are in fact looking for concessions with the U.N. regarding the world economy.

Notice that they only do this when the U.S. is readying for war with another country.

Did they threaten us in the gulf war? I don't remember if they did, nor do I remember sabre rattling during the Viet Nam war. Before that was the Korean war itself,which has never ended. I still think diplomacy is bunk,and we shouild go bitch slap this midget into reality.

I want to see a response from the State department. This guy cannot be ignored. If he is as dangerous
as we suppose he is, regardless of collateral damage that may or may not happen, we cannot give in to his blackmail. Any law enforcement officer seeing a threat like this in civilan life here, and the perp would be arrested, post haste. If we are the "world police", lets go put the cuffs on this POS! :|

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Maharaja
Yeah if our goal is to prevent future threats to the US then I definitely think our priorities are all wrong. North Korea is a far greater threat than Iraq. North Koreans have nuclear weapons and missles capable of hitting the US west coast. All they have to do is work on fitting their nukes into a warhead, which I don't think they have done yet.
Of course Iraq is more valuable than North Korea for 2 reasons I can see. Obviously one is oil. Having the 2nd largest oil deposits is a good thing today. Creating a stable & friendly Iraq would be beneficial to oil prices. Also, given our recent tension with Saudi Arabia, it would be highly beneficial to our foreign relations to create a new middle east ally without all the baggage that Saudi Arabia has. So strategically an Iraq war is far more important.

One at a time, my friend. One at a time.

 

Did they threaten us in the gulf war? I don't remember if they did, nor do I remember sabre rattling during the Viet Nam war. Before that was the Korean war itself,which has never ended. I still think diplomacy is bunk,and we shouild go bitch slap this midget into reality.

I want to see a response from the State department. This guy cannot be ignored. If he is as dangerous
as we suppose he is, regardless of collateral damage that may or may not happen, we cannot give in to his blackmail. Any law enforcement officer seeing a threat like this in civilan life here, and the perp would be arrested, post haste. If we are the "world police", lets go put the cuffs on this POS!

They were rattling away during the Gulf War, It was just not broadcast extensively because of the war coverage, during the Vietnam war N.Korea was quietly trying to gain economic advantage through the exploitation and use of the Soviet Union.

If you get a chance, look at the transcripts at the U.N. archive.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Maharaja
Yeah if our goal is to prevent future threats to the US then I definitely think our priorities are all wrong. North Korea is a far greater threat than Iraq. North Koreans have nuclear weapons and missles capable of hitting the US west coast. All they have to do is work on fitting their nukes into a warhead, which I don't think they have done yet.
Of course Iraq is more valuable than North Korea for 2 reasons I can see. Obviously one is oil. Having the 2nd largest oil deposits is a good thing today. Creating a stable & friendly Iraq would be beneficial to oil prices. Also, given our recent tension with Saudi Arabia, it would be highly beneficial to our foreign relations to create a new middle east ally without all the baggage that Saudi Arabia has. So strategically an Iraq war is far more important.

One at a time, my friend. One at a time.

Maharaja is right; oil is one of the lynchpins of modern Western industrialized society, and promoting a stable Middle East is very much in the interests of both the US and the rest of the industrialized world. North Korea, on the other hand, is only important because they are proliferators of ballistic missile and potentially of nuclear technology.

 

[dexvx]

Originally posted by: Tripleshot
I just switched out of the forums to check sport scores, and this threat caught my eye. Why is it he (Kim Jong II) has such confidence he can wreak such havoc across the globe? This piss ant could be dropped by the South Korean's at any time we said 'go get him'. Who does he think he is? this midget hitler has got to go. If Bush doesn't call his bluff, Bush is a wuss. We have the armorment, the intellegence, and enough nukes in subs off the coast of Korea to toast this screwball, surgically. The B1's and B52's are a hop skip and a jump from being able to carpet bomb every one of NK's nuclear facilities,with little threat to the populace, except those in the cross hairs. Man , this punk pisses me off.

I absolutlely want to see a firm response from our government,---screw diplomacy. This bastyard is provoking us and wants a fight. Lets give him one.:|

Story here

You obviosuly underestimate the nuke. No one wants their neighbors to be nuked, even if it was warranted. There is too much of an adverse effect. The radiation, declining land value, useless nuked land, etc. Just look at the area near nuclear test facilities in New Mexico. Basically worthless land that no one but the government wants. The exception is of course Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but that's Japan.

 

[Maharaja]

Originally posted by: dexvx
You obviosuly underestimate the nuke. No one wants their neighbors to be nuked, even if it was warranted. There is too much of an adverse effect. The radiation, declining land value, useless nuked land, etc. Just look at the area near nuclear test facilities in New Mexico. Basically worthless land that no one but the government wants. The exception is of course Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but that's Japan.

Well really I would think that land in New Mexico was useless to begin with and then the gov't started blowing up bombs on it since no one would mind.

 

[Tiger]

The difference is that NK has nukes. If we attack and miss the nukes Seoul and it's millions are only 30 miles away.
Seoul would be a smoking hole in the ground at worst or run over by NK's 1.2 million man army at best.
Iraq doesn't have nukes yet, does have chem and bio weapons and a disposition to give them to any terrorist with a big enough bank account. Iraq poses the more immediate threat to the US because of it's current/potential ties to people who've threatened us directly, Al-Quada.

 

[Tripleshot]

>>>>The exception is of course Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but that's Japan. <<<<

Yes, both of these cities mock your flawed analysis. The US has studied and is prepared to use tactical nuclear devices. I am not advocating that, I am saying it can be done. If what Jong says is true, that if we come after him, he is going to launch his nukes, it is suicide. We will respond so fast, nothing will be left of NK. Its not our fault, its his. I think the US has t ostand firm, call his bluff, or take the punk out with convert ops or whatever. He is a major danger, sportfans. If someone try to extort your bank account with threats of your anailation if you do not captulate, your are going to respond 1) by kicking there ass, or 2) calling the police and letting them remove the punk from society.

It is that response I want to see.

BTW, I have family in South Korea. I want South Korea protected. I have family in Japan. I want them protected too. I don't know a person in N Korea, so my feelings are obviously tainted.

 

[Phuz]

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
So if he is as toothless as you indicate, why do you care what he says? When I was a bouncer years ago, the little guys were the ones with the big mouths (as a rule).Know what we did? Look at them and leave them be. What we did not do was lose our temper. Why did we need to? We knew we could kick their butts. That was sufficient for our ego. When the occasion required, people left when we asked them. If NK is a real problem, then take steps that are prudent, but don't act out of anger. That ultimately works against you.

That analogy seems almost correct, but it is also the little guys that you really have to look out for. However you are right, as elfenix said, they're just wanting attention.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Maharaja

Originally posted by: dexvx
You obviosuly underestimate the nuke. No one wants their neighbors to be nuked, even if it was warranted. There is too much of an adverse effect. The radiation, declining land value, useless nuked land, etc. Just look at the area near nuclear test facilities in New Mexico. Basically worthless land that no one but the government wants. The exception is of course Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but that's Japan.

Well really I would think that land in New Mexico was useless to begin with and then the gov't started blowing up bombs on it since no one would mind.

Woah? slow down there? you say there's a New Mexico?

 

[Phokus]

You know, NK wouldn't be doing all this if it weren't for the fact that we have troops in south korea and the president can't keep is pie hole shut.

 

[FrontlineWarrior]

we should send inspectors first.

 

[Maharaja]

Originally posted by: Tripleshot
>>>>The exception is of course Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but that's Japan. <<<<

Yes, both of these cities mock your flawed analysis. The US has studied and is prepared to use tactical nuclear devices. I am not advocating that, I am saying it can be done. If what Jong says is true, that if we come after him, he is going to launch his nukes, it is suicide. We will respond so fast, nothing will be left of NK. Its not our fault, its his. I think the US has t ostand firm, call his bluff, or take the punk out with convert ops or whatever. He is a major danger, sportfans. If someone try to extort your bank account with threats of your anailation if you do not captulate, your are going to respond 1) by kicking there ass, or 2) calling the police and letting them remove the punk from society.

It's not so much the nukes that we're worried about, it's the plain ol' conventional weapons. At this point I don't think N Korea has nuclear tipped missles so if any site gets nuked, it will be by a bomber. It's slow and could be shot down. The worry is all the damage that could be done by regular weapons. The stat I keep hearing on the TV news analysis that Seoul would be hit by rocket fire in 5 minutes. North Korea could do a lot of damage with regular weapons and the US does not have the capability to stop the North Korean Army dead in its tracks. The N Koreans will still be able to fire some missles and get some soldiers across the border. I'm sure South Korea isn't interested in sacrificing itself to save US honor.

 

[Tripleshot]

Originally posted by: Tiger
The difference is that NK has nukes. If we attack and miss the nukes Seoul and it's millions are only 30 miles away.

So? Do you think we will miss? I hardly think so. If we are prone to miss, we do not belong in a war with Iraq or anyone else. Try and keep up here.

Seoul would be a smoking hole in the ground at worst or run over by NK's 1.2 million man army at best.

Do you know how many South Koreans and US soldiers are sitting between Them and Seoul? I think you would be surprised. If it was such a cake walk, Jong would have done thatr long ago.

Iraq doesn't have nukes yet, does have chem and bio weapons and a disposition to give them to any terrorist with a big enough bank account. Iraq poses the more immediate threat to the US because of it's current/potential ties to people who've threatened us directly, Al-Quada.

I disagree with you fervently. you are brainwashed by republican rhetoric, or just clueless to the facts.

Saddam has not threatened the US, ever. Saddam is contained. He isn't going anywhere. If he ever used WMD on his neighbors or his own, the response would be swift and decisive, without the mass of armorment we have installed in ther last few months, albeit, that is sure a strong deterent.

Al Quada is a rag tag bunch of ner do wells,poorly funded and about to become the same relic of Hamas and others wh othreaten Israel. Sure terrorism is a threat. But what in rthe hell is more noticable now? It is this jack off midget in NK that has the weapons on the market to sell or give to these terrorists.

Destroy the supply, and you can have more time to go after Al Quada.

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: Phokus
You know, NK wouldn't be doing all this if it weren't for the fact that we have troops in south korea and the president can't keep is pie hole shut.

WTH are you talking about? NK is doing this because we were propping up their sorry asses (with fuel oil and food shipments) under the agreement that they halt all nuclear development. They admit they were developing nukes and we stopped GIVING them food and FUEL. Without those shipments NK will starve to death in less than 2 years. This is why they are sabre rattling, they couldn't hold up to their end of the bargin and if they do go into mass starvation the country and current administration are doomed. They are trying to provoke us into giving them concessions. They need to be ignored.

 

[Dacalo]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Tripleshot
I just switched out of the forums to check sport scores, and this threat caught my eye. Why is it he (Kim Jong II) has such confidence he can wreak such havoc across the globe? This piss ant could be dropped by the South Korean's at any time we said 'go get him'. Who does he think he is? this midget hitler has got to go. If Bush doesn't call his bluff, Bush is a wuss. We have the armorment, the intellegence, and enough nukes in subs off the coast of Korea to toast this screwball, surgically. The B1's and B52's are a hop skip and a jump from being able to carpet bomb every one of NK's nuclear facilities,with little threat to the populace, except those in the cross hairs. Man , this punk pisses me off.

I absolutlely want to see a firm response from our government,---screw diplomacy. This bastyard is provoking us and wants a fight. Lets give him one.:|

Story here

he's trying to push our buttons and provoke an irresponsible response. Let's not give in to him. Ignoring this hitler wanna-be is a more painful response than actually paying attention to him.

ditto

i mean you are talking about a country that accused south koreans of invading them during the Korean War