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I heard the show, I listen to them every day. You need to know the context. Craig was talking about women who murder their kids (like Andrea Yates) and then blame it on post-partum depression. He said those types of women are crazy anyway.THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
NEWARK ? Acting Gov. Richard J. Codey on Wednesday defended his aggressive rebuke of a radio host over comments made about first lady Mary Jo Codey?s well-publicized battle with mental illness.
?Somebody made disparaging remarks about my wife. I defended my wife like any man or husband would,? Codey told a throng of reporters at the Statehouse just after addressing a group of mayors.
?I have a right to defend my family, and I will.? Codey suggested the station should take action against the host, Craig Carton, but said he did not expect an apology would come from Carton.
According to an account published in Wednesday?s Star-Ledger of Newark, Codey confronted the radio host in a hallway at the Ewing Township studios of WKXW-FM, better known as New Jersey 101.5, where the governor was to appear for his monthly ?Ask the Governor? call-in show.
?I wish I weren?t governor, I?d take you out,? Codey said, according to the newspaper?s account of the Tuesday night exchange.
Carton responded: ?That?s real professional. You want to fight?? Codey and Carton shouted at each other as members of the governor?s security detail hovered nearby. Carton then left the station, and Codey went on with the show.
During his news conference Wednesday, Codey sought to clarify the exchange, saying, ?I didn?t say I would take him out, I said I would take him outside. When you?re Irish you take them outside, not out.? He added he did not recall Carton challenging him to a fight.
Codey said he was upset about remarks Carton made during his Monday afternoon ?Jersey Guys? show. Codey said he personally did not hear the comments, but members of his staff in his West Orange legislative office heard them and wrote them down.
According to a partial transcript the governor?s office told The Star-Ledger it got from a ?trusted source,? Carton said: ?What Gov. Codey ought to do is approve the use of medical marijuana so women can have a joint and relax instead of putting their babies in a microwave. Then all they want to do is cook Doritos. Women who claim they suffer from this postpartum depression ... they must be crazy in the first place.? Codey said the radio station refused to provide his office with a transcript of Carton?s comments.
Citing station policy, program director Eric Johnson declined to release a tape of the show to the newspaper. He said he saw nothing wrong with Carton?s Monday show.
?Talk show hosts are free to comment on the news,? Johnson said. ?We have talk show hosts with strong opinions.? Johnson did not return several calls from The Associated Press on Wednesday morning.
?At what point does his freedom of speech converge in terms of public responsibility, because they do under license have a public responsibility,? Codey said Wednesday.
Codey is serving both as acting governor and state Senate president following last year?s resignation of Gov. James E. McGreevey.
Mary Jo Codey has been candid about her many dark days, including the joyless first year after their first son was born 20 years ago.
She has acknowledged having murderous thoughts about the baby, but said she knew she would harm herself first. The Codeys sought treatment for debilitating postpartum depression, which affects about 2 percent of women who give birth.
The acting governor has been a longtime advocate for improved care for the mentally ill and once worked undercover at a state psychiatric hospital to gather information to support his reform efforts.
Codey on Wednesday said his wife was upset by the remarks. But he also described her resiliency: ?My wife has survived mental illness, being in a coma for eight days, breast cancer, me at times, so I think she can survive this person.?
At the beginning of his call-in show, Codey delivered a prepared rebuttal to Carton. Codey said the station initially balked at him doing so, which he found ?odd because they wouldn?t provide a transcript for me, but they were going to censor what I was going to say.?
In his rebuttal, Codey said, ?Let me make myself very clear: I am proud of my wife and of her work to help people with mental illness throughout the state of New Jersey. These remarks were personally offensive to me, my wife and our sons. But I am even more disturbed that they reinforced a negative stigma and hurt hundreds of thousands of other New Jerseyans who deal with this disease every day.? Codey then took on-air questions for an hour.
As he left the station, Codey said he was glad he confronted Carton. ?I?m proud of what I said there,? he said.