Nixon tapes to be released.

sarsipias1234

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Nixon's secret Watergate Testimony to be released:

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/189...-watergate-scandal-fbi-testimony-released.htm

Obama does not want these tapes released to protect some people's privacy?

So these few people have a right to privacy but the American public does not have the right to a transparent government?

Obama is obviously being dishonest as this does not make sense.

More likely he is just concerned that these tapes might negatively affect his re-election campaign.
 
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EagleKeeper

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He is looking forward for the future of other presidents and political figures. Lock up info until no one is alive to challenge interpretations.
 

Throckmorton

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The tape contain recordings of plans to create an half Kenyan, half Kansan, half Manchurian cyborg named Barack Hussein Obama who would some day become president, then destroy America by giving us universal healthcare, averting a second Great Depression, killing our #1 enemy, and responsibly winding down our foreign engagements.

I'm onto you, Obama!!
 

a777pilot

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Nixon. I did look it up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watergate_tapes

JFK may have had a similar setup but this one was installed on Nixon's direction.


The first taping system installed in the Oval Office was at the direction of JFK. It was then inproved by LBJ.

By the time Nixon got there the system was working well but as in any system it could always be improved/expanded. But the taping idea was JFK's.
 

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The first taping system installed in the Oval Office was at the direction of JFK.

Wrong. Your post is a sad turtle, bobo.

The first taping machine was installed in August of 1940 by FDR after he'd been misquoted in the press following a meeting in the Oval Office as having said, "The defense of the United States begins at the Rhine." An exhaustive search through the 27 pages of shorthand taken by a secretary at the meeting showed that indeed, he hadn't. His system was a "sound on tape" one using 35mm movie stock as the medium.

Eisenhower improved it, which he and members of his admin denied having done for 27 years thereafter, saying they had no tapes. Technically, they didn't. They had acetate, one-use dictabelts, some of which survive.

JFK vastly improved Eisenhower's system, but not until July of 1962. His impetus was said to be the similar to FDR's -- lies. Apparently, he was pissed that several high ups said one thing during the failed Bay of Pigs invasion and then publicly claimed the opposite, and also that the head of US Steel had told him he wouldn't raise steel prices and then, publicly announced a price hike the very next day. Still, he waited a year after these events to install his system.

A fascinating listen, to those interested in the historical truth of this matter.
 

sarsipias1234

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Considerable effort has been expended to stop these tapes from being released.

Their must be something very important in these tapes involving someone powerful.
 

Craig234

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Actually, I wonder if they have anything much useful. It's great to have them for the history - it's taken too long - but the main question is what they have.

It's hard to imagine Nixon admitting much on them.

He went to a lot of trouble to erase the 18 1/2 minutes, to just say what it was.
 

a777pilot

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Wrong. Your post is a sad turtle, bobo.

The first taping machine was installed in August of 1940 by FDR after he'd been misquoted in the press following a meeting in the Oval Office as having said, "The defense of the United States begins at the Rhine." An exhaustive search through the 27 pages of shorthand taken by a secretary at the meeting showed that indeed, he hadn't. His system was a "sound on tape" one using 35mm movie stock as the medium.

Eisenhower improved it, which he and members of his admin denied having done for 27 years thereafter, saying they had no tapes. Technically, they didn't. They had acetate, one-use dictabelts, some of which survive.

JFK vastly improved Eisenhower's system, but not until July of 1962. His impetus was said to be the similar to FDR's -- lies. Apparently, he was pissed that several high ups said one thing during the failed Bay of Pigs invasion and then publicly claimed the opposite, and also that the head of US Steel had told him he wouldn't raise steel prices and then, publicly announced a price hike the very next day. Still, he waited a year after these events to install his system.

A fascinating listen, to those interested in the historical truth of this matter.

Thank you for the correction. That is good info.

The bottom line is it, the taping system, was not put in the Oval Office by Mr. Nixon. Thank you.
 

JSt0rm

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Thank you for the correction. That is good info.

The bottom line is it, the taping system, was not put in the Oval Office by Mr. Nixon. Thank you.

Your question was posed as "who put "THESE" taping machines in the oval office" So you were wrong fdr didnt put those taping machines in the oval office. But you are always wrong so it is no surprise.

i just bought one of these. Go liberals!

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a777pilot

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Your question was posed as "who put "THESE" taping machines in the oval office" So you were wrong fdr didnt put those taping machines in the oval office. But you are always wrong so it is no surprise.

Go back and READ what was posted.
 

Thump553

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Who put these taping machines in the Oval Office in the first place?

Irrelevant. This is Nixon's recorded GRAND JURY testimony-a court proceeding that was openly taped.

I thought I knew pretty much everything about Watergate (having been absolutely fascinated by it at the time, as was much of the country) but I've either forgotten or never knew Nixon actually gave sworn testimony in the crimminal proceedings.

Makes you wonder why the 9/11 commission gave GWB & Cheney such softball treatment-unrecorded joint interview, no notes allowed, not under oath, and not released to the public.
 

sarsipias1234

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Even though Nixon did commit crimes in office. At least he was man enough to admit he let the country down by compromising his principles. At least Nixon showed that he was willing to learn and grow from his mistakes. The Bush adminstration admits no mistakes so nothing is learned and history repeats.
 
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CallMeJoe

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Even though Nixon did commit crimes in office. At least he was man enough to admit he let the country down by compromising his principles. At least Nixon showed that he was willing to learn and grow from his mistakes. The Bush adminstration admits no mistakes so nothing is learned and history repeats.
IIRC, President Nixon left office one step ahead of impeachment and two steps ahead of a criminal indictment.
...Throughout the long and difficult period of Watergate, I have felt it was my duty to persevere, to make every possible effort to complete the term of office to which you elected me. In the past few days, however, it has become evident to me that I no longer have a strong enough political base in the Congress to justify continuing that effort...
I don't find a hint of remorse in his resignation speech, nor an indication he recognized any wrongdoing on his part. His cabal of supporters maintains to this day that Noble King Richard was unfairly hounded from office by the nefarious and treasonous Democrats and their sworn vassals, the Liberal Media.
 

sarsipias1234

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Sorry for my mistake, he did not apologize.

Maybe that is why we didn't learn from the mistake and elected Bush?

Don't get me wrong I think what Nixon did was dispicable and he should of been prosecuted.