NITROGEN in Tires

Chunkee

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came out and offered to put nitrogen into my tires...i said no...he went on about the temp fluctuation stability and its effect on the Tire Pressure Monitoring system in my van.

blah blah...

do you guy put nitrogen in your tires?

i was in and out in about 30 minutes though...not bad for a dealer...i take it there, because i have free oil changes for the life of my van....

jC
 

kyparrish

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My dad used to fill the tires with nitrogen, because that's what he had laying around...

If I remember correctly, Nitrogen is an inert gas that isn't really going to do any harm to your tires. He used to use nitrogen because he didn't have an air pump, and the bottle of nitrogen was cheaper (I think) than the bottle of compressed air (dad sells industrial gases).
 

Pacemaker

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Originally posted by: kyparrish
My dad used to fill the tires with nitrogen, because that's what he had laying around...

If I remember correctly, Nitrogen is an inert gas that isn't really going to do any harm to your tires. He used to use nitrogen because he didn't have an air pump, and the bottle of nitrogen was cheaper (I think) than the bottle of compressed air (dad sells industrial gases).

I have no problem with doing it for free or if it's cheaper, but paying more for it when you can get almost 80% nitrogen in your tires for a quarter at the gas station makes no sense.
 

Turin39789

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Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Originally posted by: kyparrish
My dad used to fill the tires with nitrogen, because that's what he had laying around...

If I remember correctly, Nitrogen is an inert gas that isn't really going to do any harm to your tires. He used to use nitrogen because he didn't have an air pump, and the bottle of nitrogen was cheaper (I think) than the bottle of compressed air (dad sells industrial gases).

I have no problem with doing it for free or if it's cheaper, but paying more for it when you can get almost 80% nitrogen in your tires for a quarter at the gas station makes no sense.


It's free at many stations with a purchase. Just ask the cashier to turn on the pump. Buy gas or a soda
 

Nyati13

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Nitrogen in car tires is only useful if you are racing (and street drag doesn't count as racing). It has zero impact on normal street driving.
 

j00fek

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Originally posted by: Chunkee
came out and offered to put nitrogen into my tires...i said no...he went on about the temp fluctuation stability and its effect on the Tire Pressure Monitoring system in my van.

blah blah...

do you guy put nitrogen in your tires?

i was in and out in about 30 minutes though...not bad for a dealer...i take it there, because i have free oil changes for the life of my van....

jC

i have for 2 years now. it gives about 1-2 more mpg and the vehicle handles better, and your tires dont have to be filled up as often as with regular air. so you should have done it :p
 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: kyparrish
My dad used to fill the tires with nitrogen, because that's what he had laying around...

If I remember correctly, Nitrogen is an inert gas that isn't really going to do any harm to your tires. He used to use nitrogen because he didn't have an air pump, and the bottle of nitrogen was cheaper (I think) than the bottle of compressed air (dad sells industrial gases).

Why would nitrogen be cheaper than air??
 

five40

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I have it in my tires. I get my tires and costco and that's what they put in the tires. It's no extra charge at costco.
 

teckmaster

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Originally posted by: j00fek
Originally posted by: Chunkee
came out and offered to put nitrogen into my tires...i said no...he went on about the temp fluctuation stability and its effect on the Tire Pressure Monitoring system in my van.

blah blah...

do you guy put nitrogen in your tires?

i was in and out in about 30 minutes though...not bad for a dealer...i take it there, because i have free oil changes for the life of my van....

jC

i have for 2 years now. it gives about 1-2 more mpg and the vehicle handles better, and your tires dont have to be filled up as often as with regular air. so you should have done it :p

I haven't done it yet, but soon will make the switch. I don't race per say , but I don't exactly do the speed limit on the back roads either. With putting air in the tires, you will have to refill them up quite a bit sooner than with nitrogen.

Nascar has been using nitrogen for years in their tires because once its heats up, its able to sustain pressure better than air.
 

iroast

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helium in your tires. makes your car lighter and thus, saves on gas...HAHA! :-D
 

0roo0roo

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http://cartalk.com/content/columns/Archive/2005/February/02.html
Dear Tom and Ray:

I recently heard about filling tires with nitrogen gas to maintain pressure and lengthen tread life. Since the air we breathe is 78 percent nitrogen, I fail to see how much benefit you actually get from changing from air to nitrogen. The creators of this are selling it as a safety issue. I'd hate to be scammed into paying for premium air. I'm seeing Starbucks-style gasoline boutiques in our near future. What do you guys think? -- Rob

Beat up old carTOM: My first thought is, I'm putting all my money into Airbucks!

RAY: Like many sales pitches, the nitrogen idea has a molecule of truth in it. You're right that normal atmospheric air is about 80 percent nitrogen already. The rest is made up of oxygen, argon, water vapor, cat dander, bad breath and coal-plant particulates. And the truth is, atmospheric air is absolutely good enough for filling your tires.

TOM: Pure nitrogen has a couple of advantages. One is that it expands and contracts less under hot and cold temperatures than a mixture of nitrogen, oxygen and water vapor. That can be an advantage if you're in, say, a race car driving at 200 mph around a track for 500 miles -- where tiny differences in tire pressure and handling can really matter.

RAY: Nitrogen also doesn't support combustion like oxygen does. So it's unlikely to fuel a fire started in some other part of the car if a tire explodes. Of course, there's already plenty of combustible air all around the car, regardless of what's in the tires.

TOM: And finally, both the oxygen and the small percentage of moisture in the atmospheric air can contribute to degradation of the inside of your tires and wheels. But think about it: The outsides are exposed to the air all the time, so what are you worried about the insides for?

RAY: So, none of these advantages is important to the average driver. They just don't matter enough to ever think about. And they certainly don't matter enough to pay for, Rob.
 

0roo0roo

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"i have for 2 years now. it gives about 1-2 more mpg "

ugh...how the f*ck does it do that?
don't tell me that its lighter:p
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: j00fek
i have for 2 years now. it gives about 1-2 more mpg and the vehicle handles better, and your tires dont have to be filled up as often as with regular air. so you should have done it :p
No, it does NOT give better mileage. 32 PSI of nitrogen will give EXACTLY the same mileage as 32 PSI of air in the tires. As long as the pressure is the same, the mileage will be the same. I am honestly shocked at the number of foolish people who believe that it's the Nitrogen that gives them better mileage.

The advantage of Nitrogen is that it leaks more slowly, which means the tires maintain proper pressure longer (if you're like me and have a compressor at home, this doesn't matter since I can check tire pressures for free once a week), and that, since it contains no water vapor, it experiences less expansion/contraction due to heat.

Since most people's tires are under-inflated by 3-5 PSI, they claim that they got better mileage from having the tires filled with nitrogen when really the improvement comes from having the tires at the proper pressure and would have been there even with regular air.

ZV
 

OutHouse

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Gee another nitrogen in tire thread.

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