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Nissan's new electric sports car of the future

were so close... i know a lot of conspiracy theorists said the car manufacturers killed electric cars in the 90's because big oil lobbied against it. i honestly think it was because they knew battery technology still sucked.

and even lithiums theyre using now suck. but i think they know big changes are coming. i think those changes will be carbon nanotube supercapacitors. they will solve our battery problems, and they will allow 80% of americans to be able to use electric cars without much loss of functionality over gas.
 
Except that there's basically been nothing done to help the electrical grid cope or to get more capacity.
 
LTC8K6 said:
Except that there's basically been nothing done to help the electrical grid cope or to get more capacity.
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We had rolling blackouts here b/c it was cold and a water pipe burst at a power plant. Luckily we are investing heavily in American infrastructure. . . oh wait. . .
 
punjabiplaya said:
We had rolling blackouts here b/c it was cold and a water pipe burst at a power plant. Luckily we are investing heavily in American infrastructure. . . oh wait. . .
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This.

And not like the prices of rare earth metals needed for batteries on a mass scale won't drive the price up ridiculously high along with the prices from the utilities monopoly to charge said batteries. You won't even need a (electric) vehicle to enjoy their prices unless you live by candle-light.
 
IcePickFreak said:
This.

And not like the prices of rare earth metals needed for batteries on a mass scale won't drive the price up ridiculously high along with the prices from the utilities monopoly to charge said batteries. You won't even need a (electric) vehicle to enjoy their prices unless you live by candle-light.
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good point too. I forgot about the rare earth metals.
 
chorb said:
do the TRON brake-lights come standard? 😀
(watch the video)
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Considering that driving the GT-R has been regarded as similar to playing a video game, likely. :sneaky:

This car strikes me as a reworked concept version of the 370z. Note the headlights, tail lights, and cabin.
 
alkalinetaupehat said:
Considering that driving the GT-R has been regarded as similar to playing a video game, likely. :sneaky:
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Maybe it's a psychological trick to make people stop sucking at driving. How many people text while playing Gran Turismo?


Anyway, I predict failure. Electric equipment has always been better than internal combustion in every conceivable way until we start to talk about batteries. There's probably more energy in a coffee cup full of gasoline than there is a 40 pound battery. This electric car will have X power, Y cost and Z range, but there's probably a gasoline or diesel vehicle out there with the same power and costs but travels twice as far. If you're a baller and bitches in various cities are begging for you to come visit, you need a sports car with range.
 
ShawnD1 said:
Maybe it's a psychological trick to make people stop sucking at driving. How many people text while playing Gran Turismo?


Anyway, I predict failure. Electric equipment has always been better than internal combustion in every conceivable way until we start to talk about batteries. There's probably more energy in a coffee cup full of gasoline than there is a 40 pound battery. This electric car will have X power, Y cost and Z range, but there's probably a gasoline or diesel vehicle out there with the same power and costs but travels twice as far. If you're a baller and bitches in various cities are begging for you to come visit, you need a sports car with range.
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350mL of gasoline = 12.18MJ of energy
40lb Li-ion battery = 18.1kg battery = 13.0MJ of energy
 
that just shows how much energy is in the gasoline. How much of that energy is lost to heat? ~70%.

Whereas electric motors can be > 90% efficient easily.
 
punjabiplaya said:
that just shows how much energy is in the gasoline. How much of that energy is lost to heat? ~70%.

Whereas electric motors can be > 90% efficient easily.
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batteries are extremely inefficient. if you let a battery sit, it just dies on its own. gasoline doesn't do that 😉

the amount of energy needed to charge a battery is a lot more than the battery holds
 
punjabiplaya said:
We had rolling blackouts here b/c it was cold and a water pipe burst at a power plant. Luckily we are investing heavily in American infrastructure. . . oh wait. . .
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I've read that studies have already been done. The expected growth of adoption electric vehicles will be slow enough that increasing generation and upgrading of transmission and distribution to meet the demand will not be an issue. As a nation we've already been through this in the past with central air.
 
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