Nissan to build M5 killer: GT-R Sedan!

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TOKYO ? Nissan's GT-R may seem born and bred as a two-door car, but in truth the model started out back in 1969 as a four-door and had a two-door version added the following year. So, in adding a four-door GT-R, Nissan is actually going back to its roots.

By adding the four-door, Nissan/Infiniti are hoping to tap into a wider customer base with a version of the supercar that offers more practicality, more luxury and better ride quality.

Also to try to recover costs on such an expensive project as the GT-R's R&D, one Nissan engineer has hinted that certain parts including the platform and underpinnings will be employed in "other models" and that its wheelbase will be stretched by 5.9 to 7.8 inches.

It was initially rumored to get a slightly downtuned version of the GT-R's 476-horsepower twin-turbo V6, but one source close to Nissan says the company is now leaning towards a slightly tuned-up version of the 5.0-liter V8 that powers the Infiniti FX50. In that guise, the four-door GT-R should develop around 420 hp. The seven-speed automatic gearbox mated to the FX's V8 will almost certainly migrate together with the 5.0-liter engine. Given that its main market will be the United States and that its main rivals will be the Porsche Panamera and the BMW M5, the V8 option makes sense.

Other technologies expected to find their way onto the four-door GT-R read like a pack of alphabet soup. They include TPMS (tire pressure monitoring system with four-corner readout), ABS with EBD (electronic brake-force distribution), TCS (traction control system) with VDC (vehicle dynamic control), LDW (lane departure warning that beeps); LDP (lane departure prevention through selective brake application); and ICC (intelligent cruise control) with DCA (distance control assist) that maintains following distances at speed, plus IBA (intelligent brake assist) that will bring the FX to a complete stop and then resume a selected speed automatically.

The four-door GT-R is expected to weigh around 4,080 pounds and cost in the neighborhood of $100,000. It's slated for a late-2010 debut.

Inside Line says: Four-door fans are about to get another great choice. ? Peter Lyon, Correspondent

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Arkaign

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4k lbs. Ouch. Well, it does have the beans to push that weight at least.

Also good to have the V8, I always prefer displacement and lower compression to high-output little motors that undergo so much more internal stress for longevity's sake.

As a rule, I see very few turbo vehicles that make it past 150k miles. Particularly junkers like Eclipses.

A 6" to 8" stretch? That thing's gonna be LONG!

Color me interested, but just as in the case with the truly superior CTS-V, I'm still an M5 kind of guy.
 

theeedude

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I like the idea, but $100K for this car when CTS-V can be had for $60K now is not going to fly unless there is massive inflation between now and time it is launched.
 

ponyo

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You see where the yen is trading at? They need to price it at $100k because after you convert that to yen, it's really like $80k based on the old conversion rate. Japanese export companies are screwed with the high yen and car companies are going to suffer double whammy with decreased demand. I wish Nissan good luck selling $100k sedan to the fast and furious crowd.
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: senseamp
I like the idea, but $100K for this car when CTS-V can be had for $60K now is not going to fly unless there is massive inflation between now and time it is launched.

Yeah. Ironic to think that there is actually more competition in the sedan entry-supercar battlefield than with sub-$100k full-fledged sports cars.

Even the M5 is ~$85k IIRC. Of course BMW charges out the rear-entry-device for options, but that's beside the point somewhat.

Because this info is so early, maybe it's missing some points. The only way I really think the premise of the OP would work is :

Infiniti Brand, no 'GT-R' badge.

Twin-Turbo that V8, shoot for ~580hp+.

$99.9k ;)
 

ElFenix

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saw a gt-r the other day here in houston. not the prettiest thing ever.
 
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Nissan better aim higher than 420hp in 2010. By that point, BMW will probably be a year out from a new M5.

Not to mention the current M5 is outgunned by the CTS-V for less money.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Also to try to recover costs on such an expensive project as the GT-R's R&D, one Nissan engineer has hinted that certain parts including the platform and underpinnings will be employed in "other models" and that its wheelbase will be stretched by 5.9 to 7.8 inches.
That's a real short car.
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: KnightBreed
Nissan better aim higher than 420hp in 2010. By that point, BMW will probably be a year out from a new M5.

Not to mention the current M5 is outgunned by the CTS-V for less money.

Not to mention the CS concept (probably to be sold as the 8-series, but this time around the 8 series will be a 4-door coupe a la the Mercedes CLS) should be hitting the streets, probably with an //M version as well.
 

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
saw a gt-r the other day here in houston. not the prettiest thing ever.

I think it looks epic. Especially in bright red.
 

geokilla

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Why don't you like the current GTR design? Looks very nice imo, but I prefer the R34 ones.

A GTR cannot be called a GTR without it's twin turbos. The RB26DETT is one of the reasons why the GTR is so famous. The engine could easily achieve over 600hp.
 

StageLeft

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I'd take an M5 over that or a CTS-V and a cruise for my wife and I for the next twenty years.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: TehMac
Originally posted by: ElFenix
saw a gt-r the other day here in houston. not the prettiest thing ever.

I think it looks epic. Especially in bright red.

i did exclaim 'godzilwa!' and slow down a bit