Nintendon't: The Case Against the Wii.

[VIAN]

Idk if it's coming up on your browser the same way, but if you don't see the article, scroll down to find it.

http://www.slate.com/id/2154157/

 

[JackBurton]

So they're saying they don't like it?

 

[tfinch2]

Which is why I could hit one-handed home runs without winding up or following through.

Seems better than hitting one-finger home runs just by pressing a button.

 

[VIAN]

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Which is why I could hit one-handed home runs without winding up or following through.

Seems better than hitting one-finger home runs just by pressing a button.

So you're saying a flick of the wrist is better compared to the pressing of a button. Same crap to me. No skill.

 

[Aikouka]

I've read about a calibration in the Wii... did the guy forget to do it? I never delved into the menus on my brother's Wii to see how it works, but maybe he forgot to calibrate as he complained about the poor accuracy.

 

[LanceM]

Originally posted by: VIAN

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Which is why I could hit one-handed home runs without winding up or following through.

Seems better than hitting one-finger home runs just by pressing a button.

So you're saying a flick of the wrist is better compared to the pressing of a button. Same crap to me. No skill.

If you want a true test of your baseball skills, go play baseball.

 

[IamDavid]

I kinda had the same impression after playing one for a few minutes. Figured it was just me.

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: LanceM

Originally posted by: VIAN

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Which is why I could hit one-handed home runs without winding up or following through.

Seems better than hitting one-finger home runs just by pressing a button.

So you're saying a flick of the wrist is better compared to the pressing of a button. Same crap to me. No skill.

If you want a true test of your baseball skills, go play baseball.

Took the words right out of my mouth. If you want to measure your IRL skill, do it IRL. Gaming is to have fun.

 

[StevenYoo]

:music: Genesis does.... you can't do this on Nintendo...

Genesis does.... what Nintendon't! :music:

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: tfinch2
Took the words right out of my mouth. If you want to measure your IRL skill, do it IRL. Gaming is to have fun.

Isn't it supposed to be immersive though? Flicking my wrist isn't very immersive. I don't think anyone's asking for perfect emulated sensations from whacking a ball with a bat, just a bit more sensory data to be taken into account to determine the swing.

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: tfinch2
Took the words right out of my mouth. If you want to measure your IRL skill, do it IRL. Gaming is to have fun.

Isn't it supposed to be immersive though? Flicking my wrist isn't very immersive. I don't think anyone's asking for perfect emulated sensations from whacking a ball with a bat, just a bit more sensory data to be taken into account to determine the swing.

It's more immersive than the opposition, is it not?

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: tfinch2
It's more immersive than the opposition, is it not?

Yes, but that's just a cop-out response . I swear there've been baseball games released with actual bat controllers or arcade games like that... I can picture it and I swear they exist, but I don't know of any titles .

 

[VIAN]

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: tfinch2
Took the words right out of my mouth. If you want to measure your IRL skill, do it IRL. Gaming is to have fun.

Isn't it supposed to be immersive though? Flicking my wrist isn't very immersive. I don't think anyone's asking for perfect emulated sensations from whacking a ball with a bat, just a bit more sensory data to be taken into account to determine the swing.

It's more immersive than the opposition, is it not?

No, because there is a difference between practicality and gimmick. You'll be disappointed that what you've seen from Nintendo's marketing, isn't how the game is actually played.

 

[Smilin]

Sitting in front of a screen with a controller I can "immerse" into the game on the screen.

Sitting in front of a screen with a little miniature remote control and swinging it like I'm a baseball player I can "immerse" into being a retard hoping that no one is watching me.



edit: Call it the "dance dance revolution" effect.

 

[Trevelyan]

Honestly I feel almost exactly the same way as the reviewer does. I haven't played the Wii yet, so I'll reserve judgment.

I was so excited about 3 months ago... but now that it's out I'm honestly just disappointed with the graphics more than anything, and upset that the controller seems to not be as revolutionary as promised.

 

[VIAN]

Entertainment Weekly also thought little of the inaccuracy of the Wiimote.

 

[IEC]

I doubt many of you have actually played with the Wii. A friend of mine camped out 27 hours at a Wal-Mart to get one (strangely enough, he actually has a life!) - his dorm room has been filled 24/7 for the past few days with people trying it out. I got to try out Wii Sports' "boxing" and "tennis" - once you get the hang of the controllers it's quite nice, but nothing like the real sports (doesn't register movement so much as acceleration, so a quick flick of the wrist is faster than a punching movement). Despite probably looking like an idiot it certainly was fun - although I think once the novelty wears off it won't be quite as entertaining.

Calibration is a MUST. That and making your "Miis"

Edit: Clarity FTW.

 

[VIAN]

Calibration takes the simple out the box play idea and throws it out the window. Stupid of Nintendo not to make them do it when they first start up the console.

 

[xSkyDrAx]

It would be quite impractical to make all your users jump about frantically if you wanted to add more 'depth' through motion. Not everyone is going to want to do that. Some people like the simple motions and some don't. Sure taking a batter's stance doesn't do anything for the game but coupled with the motions you make you could find yourself having more fun anyhow. I'd like to see you do that with a regular controller even if you wanted to. I guess nintendo held it back knowing that some people just want to play Wii games w/o having to warm up for a massive exercise before you play but at the same time allow players that want to have a little more fun with their imagination the possibility to do so.

 

[BoberFett]

Also from Slate: The Wii is better than either the Xbox360 or the PS3

 

[VIAN]

Originally posted by: BoberFett
Also from Slate: The Wii is better than either the Xbox360 or the PS3

Not a very strong arguement:

"Twilight Princess is fun, and worth picking up if you have a Wii, but it's not the gaming revolution augured by Wii Sports. While the controls in Zelda feel novel, my instant take is that the 360 and PS3 will probably be better consoles for epic single-player games. But for short bursts of gaming activity or for playing with a group, the Wii will probably be your best bet. I plan to pack up my Wii and play it with my extended family during the Thanksgiving holiday. I'm confident even the gaming-phobes will love it."

 

[StrangerGuy]

Anti-Nintendo fanboy anyone?

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: VIAN

Originally posted by: BoberFett
Also from Slate: The Wii is better than either the Xbox360 or the PS3

Not a very strong arguement:

"Twilight Princess is fun, and worth picking up if you have a Wii, but it's not the gaming revolution augured by Wii Sports. While the controls in Zelda feel novel, my instant take is that the 360 and PS3 will probably be better consoles for epic single-player games. But for short bursts of gaming activity or for playing with a group, the Wii will probably be your best bet. I plan to pack up my Wii and play it with my extended family during the Thanksgiving holiday. I'm confident even the gaming-phobes will love it."

How is that not a strong argument? Just because that doesn't appeal to you personally doesn't mean it's not a strong argument for the system. That sounds like exactly what Nintendo was shooting for. A system that appeals to the average gamer. The hardcore gamer is becoming a smaller and smaller segment of total revenue every year.

 

[VIAN]

The author is saying that the Wii wins hands down over the 360 and the PS3 (according to the title) because the Wii is better for short bursts of activity. Your just proved my point. It is too personal a strength for the writer to make such a broad judgement.

Off Topic:
Wow! Who knew judgement could be spelled judgment? FF2 keeps telling me that judgement is the wrong spelling, but dictionary.com accepts both. I hate that. The reason the "dge" makes a J sound is because of the 'g' and 'e' together. Why the 'd' is there is beyond me. One good thing about the French, they always have their language straight. We need a language review board.

 

[Kromis]

So uhh...

Who's side are you on, VIAN?