Nintendo On A Rampage: Console Sales Numbers For April/May 2007

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Canun

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I tried to find a new PS2 for my gf last weekend, and never found one. Had to get a used one, but she was cool with that.

PS2 still seems like the big winner to me. :)
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: magomago
Yeah I'm suprised about PSP as well. I actually want one Because I can play old games on it...That is the main driving force for me

but all my friends have a DS and I must admit that once the games start to come its ridiculously fun! To play Trauma center is omething you can't do on Sony's Sexy screen~ The stylus has turned from a gimme two years ago to a selling point today! And games like Phoenix right (That lawyer game) is hilarious. Brain Age also is fun to play.

Of course I don't know anyone with a PSP so I can't necessarily talk about the games I like to play as I didn't know of any of those DS games till my friends ended up buying one...

But the DS does it right, and I truly hope Nintendo keeps it around for a long while...and if they drop the price enough it MAAAY be enough to suck me away from the desite of getting a PSP...but that has to be a niceee price drop and since they are selling like hotcakes I find it hard to believe Nintendo wants to drop the price at all ;)

As for PS3....whatever :p When the good games come I MAAAAY buy one. Until then, all I need is DOTA :)

I been thinking of getting a PSP. but they are still what $200? im waiting until they hit $150-175 then will get one (pluse then need memory etc) hmm might have to look for a used one.. i have a DS, Wii, PS2 with a stack of games to play for the PS2 (wich oddly all are PS1 games heh).

i play My DS the most. i been goofing off with homebrew apps but i am dispointed in them. not as good as i thought they would be.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Canun
I tried to find a new PS2 for my gf last weekend, and never found one. Had to get a used one, but she was cool with that.

PS2 still seems like the big winner to me. :)

yeah my PS2 is acting weird (i have a fat one). i really hope it last until i get a PS3 (wich won't be until they hit say $400 for the 60gig). i dont think it is though.

if not i will buy a new PS2. its a great system with a lot of good games and add the fact it plays PS1 games (wich i have about 5 i still have to play) makes it great!
 

Aikouka

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
That's the thing though, are you telling me 200k people this month alone figured out how to hack a PSP to play old games? I'll admit I'm a DS owner, so I'm a bit biased here, but it seems like Sony has absolutely no momentum in NA or Japan with the PSP because it still hasn't found its killer app while the DS has a ton of games that are generating a positive buzz. Someone has to be playing PSP games on these things, right?

I don't doubt it. I've been watching the PSP modding scene for a bit and it only gets easier and easier to mod them. Now, in some cases, if you mess up... they even have fixes for it :Q!

All you do is download the stuff you need, put it on the PSP, run the TIFF hack (literally just use the picture browser and enter a folder), then run the firmware hacker (as the TIFF hack allows homebrew).

Originally posted by: jlmadyson
Between the two SKUs for Lost Planet it sold in the U.S. 408,673 for the 2-3 weeks it hit the street and the time frame for NPD data collection. The 360 continues to dish out million sellers and that certainly bodes well for it. Gears of War just doesn't seem to stop last time I checked it was somewhere between the 3-3.5 million sold range. Developers are certainly taking note. Just today another so called PS3 exclusive was announced for the PC and 360 as well. So many so called exclusives for the PS3 have been changing course and are now headed to other consoles and the PC. The Wii has had a heck of a launch as well and I imagine much bigger things are in store for it.

With Microsoft's push for Games for Windows, I think you'll see a lot more ports for the PC finally. Microsoft also finally released their wireless adapter for the PC. With this, the USB accessories and the wireless racing wheel, wireless controller and wireless headset all work with the PC and Games for Windows (Vista) requires compatibility with the XBOX controller.
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
I'm not sure how 'close' it will be if the Wii continues to outsell it 3-to-1. The year lead will definitely help MS hold onto 1st place for most of 2007, but the fact that they are selling an insignificant number of consoles in Japan means that they'll eventually drop to 2nd. Halo 3 will dampen that fall, however.

The PS3 has some gloomy days ahead. How many horses win the derby after stumbling out the gate?

It's definitely not looking up. Theres little historical precedent for a mainstream system, which costs nearly twice their competitors while not really brining much more to the table, to be dropped late in the generation.

But the chicken and egg problem is not to be underestimated. Everyone says the PS3 will take off when they get good exclusive games. Good ports aren't enough, they NEED exclusives. They lost many exclusives such as GTA, Guitar Hero and Metal Gear, they're on the verge of losing square and final fantasy, and gran turismo has some real competition with forza. Son'y first party has never been too great, and how are they going to attract 3rd parties to make good games when the userbase is so small?

MS has halo, gears and the fantastic xbox live, and Nintendo has Mario, Zelda and Wii Sports. What *killer* app does sony have on the horizon that the others cant match, but FF13? It certainly isnt blu-ray.
 
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Originally posted by: Dumac
Originally posted by: Pale Rider
I have no PS3. I have a Wii, Gamecube, N64, SNES, DS lite, PS2, PS1, and Xbox

You could have went to college on the money you spent to sit on your ass.

I am in High School; that is a little ahead of my schedule. Just so you know, 5 of those consoles are handed down from members of my family who went to college, 1 of them is really my girlfriend's, and the DS was a christmas present.

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven

Considering that there are only three major competitors in the current console race, I suspect even the PS3 might manage to come in third.

The keyword is close. Of course it can be third, but I was saying it was going to be at least a close third

Third place is second loser. :p
 

mrzed

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Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP
roflmao sometimes i love the internets. the people bashing each other on console fighting has yet to get old for me :)

just have googlefight settle the score for you guys c'mon:
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?la...osoft+xbox360&word2=sony+playstation+3

Not that I care either way, but I was a little curious about the results of your googlefight - seemed fishy. But all is revealed by removing the words "microsoft" and "sony,"

removing company name inverts results
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: mrzed
Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP
roflmao sometimes i love the internets. the people bashing each other on console fighting has yet to get old for me :)

just have googlefight settle the score for you guys c'mon:
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?la...osoft+xbox360&word2=sony+playstation+3

Not that I care either way, but I was a little curious about the results of your googlefight - seemed fishy. But all is revealed by removing the words "microsoft" and "sony,"

removing company name inverts results

Adding a space between 'xbox' and '360' inverts the results yet again.
 

mrzed

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: mrzed
Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP
roflmao sometimes i love the internets. the people bashing each other on console fighting has yet to get old for me :)

just have googlefight settle the score for you guys c'mon:
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?la...osoft+xbox360&word2=sony+playstation+3

Not that I care either way, but I was a little curious about the results of your googlefight - seemed fishy. But all is revealed by removing the words "microsoft" and "sony,"

removing company name inverts results

Adding a space between 'xbox' and '360' inverts the results yet again.

It gets better - using the short form ps3 brings it to a dead heat

I sense a conspiracy
 

randay

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using only the first letters of each, sony is the clear winner!
Originally posted by: mrzed
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: mrzed
Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP
roflmao sometimes i love the internets. the people bashing each other on console fighting has yet to get old for me :)

just have googlefight settle the score for you guys c'mon:
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?la...osoft+xbox360&word2=sony+playstation+3

Not that I care either way, but I was a little curious about the results of your googlefight - seemed fishy. But all is revealed by removing the words "microsoft" and "sony,"

removing company name inverts results

Adding a space between 'xbox' and '360' inverts the results yet again.

It gets better - using the short form ps3 brings it to a dead heat

I sense a conspiracy

 

PokerGuy

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Sony got to this point because of their own arrogance and incompetence. That's not to say that the battle is over, far from it, but right now things just don't look good for the PS3. There is nothing compelling about the PS3, and if your product is that much more expensive than competitors, you'd better bring something really compelling to the table.

I think banking on the "all in one media center" approach and blu-ray etc was a big mistake. Anyone with half a brain knows there's no point in getting a PS3 to play blu-ray movies anytime soon. Why would you pay a lot for the player, then get ripped off again to buy the disks, and be saddled with advertising and lots of restrictions to boot?
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: jpeyton
I'm not sure how 'close' it will be if the Wii continues to outsell it 3-to-1. The year lead will definitely help MS hold onto 1st place for most of 2007, but the fact that they are selling an insignificant number of consoles in Japan means that they'll eventually drop to 2nd. Halo 3 will dampen that fall, however.

The PS3 has some gloomy days ahead. How many horses win the derby after stumbling out the gate?

It's definitely not looking up. Theres little historical precedent for a mainstream system, which costs nearly twice their competitors while not really brining much more to the table, to be dropped late in the generation.

But the chicken and egg problem is not to be underestimated. Everyone says the PS3 will take off when they get good exclusive games. Good ports aren't enough, they NEED exclusives. They lost many exclusives such as GTA, Guitar Hero and Metal Gear, they're on the verge of losing square and final fantasy, and gran turismo has some real competition with forza. Son'y first party has never been too great, and how are they going to attract 3rd parties to make good games when the userbase is so small?

MS has halo, gears and the fantastic xbox live, and Nintendo has Mario, Zelda and Wii Sports. What *killer* app does sony have on the horizon that the others cant match, but FF13? It certainly isnt blu-ray.

Sony many not have any killer apps for awhile, but another one of their big problems is the library itself. There simply aren't enough games out. This year should bring a bunch of games and help people justify buying it. I would also not underestimate the power of the FF series, especially with them coming out with not 1, but 2 complete games.

Another thing is if MS does release the v2.0 of the 360 and does have it selling for $479. At that price, the PS3 20gb looks very, very attractive.

Exclusives: Heavenly Sword (very excited about this game), Mercenaries 2: World in Flames, MGS (has it been confirmed to go to the 360?, last I heard it was still rumors), Lair, Killzone, Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction, Devil May Cry 4, Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection

Rehashes: Ninja Gaiden Sigma, HL2: Orange Box, Rainbow Six: Vegas, Oblivion, Enchanted Arms, Fear, Splinter Cell Double Agent, Saints Row, Guitar Hero,

The ones on multiple consoles that are notable: GTA 4, Assasin's Creed, Army of Two, Burnout 5, Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2, Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway, Madden 08, typical sports games, etc.

I don't have the PS3 yet, but I do plan on getting one. It's not because I'm a Sony fanboy; it's simply because none of the other systems have the type of games I play. I play RPGs and J-RPGs, and the Nintendo offers have been mediocre in recent history (with one or two awesome games here and there) and the 360 is practically non-existent save one game.

If developers (especially Square Enix) take their games elsewhere, you'll be damn sure I'm buying whatever console they're moving to.
 

Dumac

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: jpeyton
I'm not sure how 'close' it will be if the Wii continues to outsell it 3-to-1. The year lead will definitely help MS hold onto 1st place for most of 2007, but the fact that they are selling an insignificant number of consoles in Japan means that they'll eventually drop to 2nd. Halo 3 will dampen that fall, however.

The PS3 has some gloomy days ahead. How many horses win the derby after stumbling out the gate?

It's definitely not looking up. Theres little historical precedent for a mainstream system, which costs nearly twice their competitors while not really brining much more to the table, to be dropped late in the generation.

But the chicken and egg problem is not to be underestimated. Everyone says the PS3 will take off when they get good exclusive games. Good ports aren't enough, they NEED exclusives. They lost many exclusives such as GTA, Guitar Hero and Metal Gear, they're on the verge of losing square and final fantasy, and gran turismo has some real competition with forza. Son'y first party has never been too great, and how are they going to attract 3rd parties to make good games when the userbase is so small?

MS has halo, gears and the fantastic xbox live, and Nintendo has Mario, Zelda and Wii Sports. What *killer* app does sony have on the horizon that the others cant match, but FF13? It certainly isnt blu-ray.

Sony many not have any killer apps for awhile, but another one of their big problems is the library itself. There simply aren't enough games out. This year should bring a bunch of games and help people justify buying it. I would also not underestimate the power of the FF series, especially with them coming out with not 1, but 2 complete games.

Another thing is if MS does release the v2.0 of the 360 and does have it selling for $479. At that price, the PS3 20gb looks very, very attractive.

Exclusives: Heavenly Sword (very excited about this game), Mercenaries 2: World in Flames, MGS (has it been confirmed to go to the 360?, last I heard it was still rumors), Lair, Killzone, Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction, Devil May Cry 4, Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection

Rehashes: Ninja Gaiden Sigma, HL2: Orange Box, Rainbow Six: Vegas, Oblivion, Enchanted Arms, Fear, Splinter Cell Double Agent, Saints Row, Guitar Hero,

The ones on multiple consoles that are notable: GTA 4, Assasin's Creed, Army of Two, Burnout 5, Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2, Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway, Madden 08, typical sports games, etc.

I don't have the PS3 yet, but I do plan on getting one. It's not because I'm a Sony fanboy; it's simply because none of the other systems have the type of games I play. I play RPGs and J-RPGs, and the Nintendo offers have been mediocre in recent history (with one or two awesome games here and there) and the 360 is practically non-existent save one game.

If developers (especially Square Enix) take their games elsewhere, you'll be damn sure I'm buying whatever console they're moving to.

MGS4 being on the 360 was confirmed to not be true at the moment; I could see it moving to the 360 later, but that would be at least a year after it's release. Also, Final Fantasy isn't on the verge of being lost at all, at least from the articles I've read, and Square is planning to put a lot of energy into the PS3, which will give it a nice boost.

I agree with BigJ in that the reason I will eventually get a PS3 is because of the selection of JRPGs that other consoles seem to lack, plus a few other select Japanese action games. They are very little games that pull me to the 360, as I'm not a big fan of typical shooters, especially on the console. It is just a different in gaming tastes, and each group will buy the console most suited to their taste.

Despite all this controversy about the PS3, I'm impressed and excited about all three consoles, as they are all at least trying to make a solid stand and each offering great benefits. I'm a little worried about the Wii's library though; I don't want it to turn into another Gamecube.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Exclusives: Mercenaries 2: World in Flames
Another 'exclusive' jumps ship.

That isn't the first, nor will it be the last title to jump off the PS3 bandwagon.

The funniest part about that news story is the revelation that Mercs 2 will also be going cross-generational; the developers probably saw the latest sales figures where the PS2 was outselling the PS3 and decided to cash in.
 

herkulease

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I think the days of third party of exclusives are fading if not gone. Its getting too costly a develop just for one system.

Unlike last generation, there hasn't been a clear cut winner yet. sony had already hit 20 million systems by the time the Gamecube and Xbox were ready to launch. 6 months later they were closing in on 50 million.

Third Party developers easily saw who was winning and didn't have to worry as much. With this gen its not so clear yet. IMO would disasterous if a company blindly agree to an exclusive. Sure they'll get money up front but may lose out in the long run.

Oh and Mercenaries 2 is gonna be on the ps2, ps3, PC and the xbox 360.
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: jpeyton
I'm not sure how 'close' it will be if the Wii continues to outsell it 3-to-1. The year lead will definitely help MS hold onto 1st place for most of 2007, but the fact that they are selling an insignificant number of consoles in Japan means that they'll eventually drop to 2nd. Halo 3 will dampen that fall, however.

The PS3 has some gloomy days ahead. How many horses win the derby after stumbling out the gate?

It's definitely not looking up. Theres little historical precedent for a mainstream system, which costs nearly twice their competitors while not really brining much more to the table, to be dropped late in the generation.

But the chicken and egg problem is not to be underestimated. Everyone says the PS3 will take off when they get good exclusive games. Good ports aren't enough, they NEED exclusives. They lost many exclusives such as GTA, Guitar Hero and Metal Gear, they're on the verge of losing square and final fantasy, and gran turismo has some real competition with forza. Son'y first party has never been too great, and how are they going to attract 3rd parties to make good games when the userbase is so small?

MS has halo, gears and the fantastic xbox live, and Nintendo has Mario, Zelda and Wii Sports. What *killer* app does sony have on the horizon that the others cant match, but FF13? It certainly isnt blu-ray.

Sony many not have any killer apps for awhile, but another one of their big problems is the library itself. There simply aren't enough games out. This year should bring a bunch of games and help people justify buying it. I would also not underestimate the power of the FF series, especially with them coming out with not 1, but 2 complete games.

Another thing is if MS does release the v2.0 of the 360 and does have it selling for $479. At that price, the PS3 20gb looks very, very attractive.

Exclusives: Heavenly Sword (very excited about this game), Mercenaries 2: World in Flames, MGS (has it been confirmed to go to the 360?, last I heard it was still rumors), Lair, Killzone, Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction, Devil May Cry 4, Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection

Rehashes: Ninja Gaiden Sigma, HL2: Orange Box, Rainbow Six: Vegas, Oblivion, Enchanted Arms, Fear, Splinter Cell Double Agent, Saints Row, Guitar Hero,

The ones on multiple consoles that are notable: GTA 4, Assasin's Creed, Army of Two, Burnout 5, Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2, Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway, Madden 08, typical sports games, etc.

I don't have the PS3 yet, but I do plan on getting one. It's not because I'm a Sony fanboy; it's simply because none of the other systems have the type of games I play. I play RPGs and J-RPGs, and the Nintendo offers have been mediocre in recent history (with one or two awesome games here and there) and the 360 is practically non-existent save one game.

If developers (especially Square Enix) take their games elsewhere, you'll be damn sure I'm buying whatever console they're moving to.

As good as I'm hoping heavenly sword will be, I don't think it will be a system seller. Keep in mind that the killer app has to be all the more killer to make up for the $600 pricetag. The killer app has to be revolutionary like Halo or Wii Sports, an experience you just can't find elsewhere. Lair looks good, and Killzone...well, theyve got a high standard that they set with that ridiculous e3 video, and if they don't live up to it, it will look very, very bad.

Every MGS has made it to the xbox, I don't see how it's going to be any different this time around.

FF13 is IMO right now their one and only trump card. I can't ever see square in bed with MS, and the Wii can't handle it. It has to redefine the rpg like FF X. If it does, I'll buy a PS3 along with everyone else. If it's just FFX with better graphics, it won't cut it.

The difference this time around is that this isnt a battle between equals. Last round all three systems were relatively comparable, and sony had the jump, along with quality titles. This time around MS has online absolutely locked down and incredible, good technology, and a reasonable price. The Wii is inexpensive, unique and damn fun, and in a total different category than the others. If it succeeds or fails in the end, it will likely be for it's own reasons, not because of competition.

The 360 and Wii really stand out in these regards. The only unique feature of the PS3 right now is blu-ray, and thats NOT going to sell systems. It's got a lot of good qualities, but nothing to blow us away.
 
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Originally posted by: jlmadyson
Just ran across this over at youtube. Uh, a little more salt for the would, heh.

PS3 Song

LOL, that was great! :beer::D

The song is right on target. Why the Hell are they pushing Killzone 2 as the next big thing? Killzone was garbage.
 

jlmadyson

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Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Originally posted by: jlmadyson
Just ran across this over at youtube. Uh, a little more salt for the would, heh.

PS3 Song

LOL, that was great! :beer::D

The song is right on target. Why the Hell are they pushing Killzone 2 as the next big thing? Killzone was garbage.

Guess they're still banking on the "4D" graphics my friend. Oh and that ultra slick, so called "in-game" footage from E3 2005. ;)
 

TallBill

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To bad once the wii's novelty wears off, and great games start hitting the shelves for the ps3, the wii will flop.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: jpeyton
It has definitely shown its staying power after the holiday season ended, more so than any other console.

Oh I know, 2 months after christmas really shows its staying power. Who could think it could be popular for 2 more whole months. WOW

Nintendo Fan boys are officially worse then Apple fan boys.

The Wii is a gimmick IMO, I can surely understand how it appeals to so many that other consoles don't appeal to. But consoles have always appealed to me, and the Wii....not so much. I am a bit interested, but all of the games and the controller are, to me any way - the type of thing I will like at first and then be completely sick of.

Its my belief that others will start to feel the same way. Give it a year or two, with games that actually appeal to real gamers on the PS3 and 360 and I bet you'll see the Wii taper WAY off. Sure there is Zelda, but the Wii doesn't have a single game thats worth more then 2 hours of play. Maybe Mario Galaxy coming up, but the PS3 has Heavenly Sword, FF XIII, and I actually could list like 10 games I'm looking forward to. The 360 too, has lots of killer apps slater, the Wii has maybe 2.

As of now, I'll just keep my PS2 for quit a while. God of War 2, still playing FF XII, got a couple other role playing games to finish, others coming out. I'll leave Wii to the trendy Apple buyers and Old people.

Do you see the irony of a Playstation fanboy criticizing the Wii for its lack of games? When Playstation fanboys are using the lack of games on the PS3 as the reason it's selling so poorly? :D

The Wii doesn't have a single game that's worth more then [sic] 2 hours of play... Well damn, I must have played Wii Sports for 6 hours the first day I had it (I own 6 games for my Wii, BTW). The Wii's game selection is not great right now, but with its impressive sales you better believe that'll change. I can't wait for Fire Emblem to come out on the Wii (out in Japan already). The Wii remote is perfect for a golf game - I'm sure there'll be some great ones. Mario Tennis is an amazingly fun series. Mario Kart as well. Yeah, all of those games are by Nintendo, but third party developers are excited about the Wii too. Rockstar is making a game for the Wii (and PS2 and a few portables, but no PS3). Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles will be a Wii exclusive. There will be plenty of games out for the Wii.
 

mlm

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Originally posted by: BD2003
Every MGS has made it to the xbox, I don't see how it's going to be any different this time around.

Unless the 360 version is totally gimped, there's no way it will appear on the system without at least 4 discs or on an HD-DVD (thereby alienating the early-adopters). There are interviews suggesting that it probably won't fit on 25 GB's.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: mlm
Originally posted by: BD2003
Every MGS has made it to the xbox, I don't see how it's going to be any different this time around.

Unless the 360 version is totally gimped, there's no way it will appear on the system without at least 4 discs or on an HD-DVD (thereby alienating the early-adopters). There are interviews suggesting that it probably won't fit on 25 GB's.

Xbox 360 can't play games off HD-DVD.

You know, probably 90% of the 25 GB would be FMV. That's really the only way to fill up that much space. The effort necessary to fill up that much space with game data - code, maps, models, textures, etc - would be incredible. Not to mention if you did fill up that much space with game data, the PS3's memory would become a huge bottleneck - you'd either have to copy it all to the hard drive or deal with frequent loading screens. All that to say, it's most likely FMV which can be reduced in size and compressed. Reduce it from 1080p to 720p and you have a substantial savings right there.

Maybe 2 DVD-9s. Is switching discs really that big a deal? Playstation Final Fantasy games came on 3+ CDs.
 

schneiderguy

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Why do people always say the wii is more fun to play?

OH BOY I GET TO SWING MY WII MOTE INSTEAD OF PRESSING A BUTTON! HOW REVOLUTIONARY!

no online play yet, and when the wii does get online play they'll probably use friend codes like they do on the DS to appeal to all the 6 year olds they market the wii to

I give the wii six months to lose it's novelty.