Nintendo makes a couple of Wii announcements

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: AntiFreze

Originally posted by: BD2003
A remake of mario tennis instead of a new one is a bit of a rip, but I think its great theyre remaking MP1 and 2, Pikmin 1 and 2, and DK Jungle Beat. All of those were fantastic games that are extremely well suited to take advantage of the Wii controls. Especially the two metroids, I can't wait for those to come out.

Other than that, the only things that interest me are boom blox 2, which will be amazing if its anywhere near as good as the first. And I'm holding out hope for punch out.

The rest is shovelware or crap, as expected.

Yes, that includes the conduit. I said it - the conduit will suck. So it's an FPS thats supposed to have good graphics - for the Wii, which means the graphics will still be sub par compared to the 360. It'll be online, but the experience at it's best will be crap, because it's on the Wii. It's going to be the WNBA of FPS games, and really, who cares about the WNBA? I'd like to be proven wrong, but it looks like total ass to me.

the conduit is all about the controls for me. xbox and ps3 user's can stick with their retarded controllers for FPS. Keyboard + mouse is what a FPS was made for, but I think the wiimote does a damn fine job. The conduit should just improve on it. I'm exited.

(Owner of just a PC + Wii)

As a longtime hardcore PC gamer, as well as Wii and 360 owner, I can say with near certainty that the Wii controls for FPS games just didnt live up to the hype. For most games at least. The controls are much more precise to be sure, so it works great in games that are more about precision than fast reaction, such as MP3.

Games like COD:WaW just didnt seem to work as well on the Wii. I've played all three, and I have to say I prefer the 360 over Wii for controls, and PC over both, obviously.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: gar655

Originally posted by: Auryg

Originally posted by: AntiFreze
the conduit is all about the controls for me. xbox and ps3 user's can stick with their retarded controllers for FPS. Keyboard + mouse is what a FPS was made for, but I think the wiimote does a damn fine job. The conduit should just improve on it. I'm exited.

(Owner of just a PC + Wii)

Seriously? The Conduit is the first FPS on the Wii that even seems remotely playable, whereas dual thumb sticks FPSes have been refined to the point where most people can do really well with them, with very little autoaim.

Don't get me wrong, I'll be the first guy to say that KB+M is superior in FPSes in every way (other than couch-abilitiy), but to say that the Wiimote does a better job than a 360 controller is laughable.

It's not laughable at all. With the (hopefully) better accuracy of the motionplus it will be a LOT easier to aim with the Wiimote. I'm new to console gaming and find the dual stick controls are very difficult to aim accurately and quickly.

Stick the Wiimote in a zapper type thing and it's like you're really holding the weapon.

Motionplus wont do a single thing for aiming, it has nothing to do with IR.

The main problem with Wii FPS controls is that your viewpoint moves somewhat independently from the cursor, making lining up a simple shot a lot more difficult than it might sound.

 

[Slew Foot]

Im hoping for some good sports titles to come out that make good use of the wii mote.

 

[Thraxen]

Didn't Nintendo claim they were done with new peripherals after they introduced the WiiMotion+? But now they introduce a new Classic controller... LOL. Typical Nintendo.

 

[gar655]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: gar655

Originally posted by: Auryg

Originally posted by: AntiFreze
the conduit is all about the controls for me. xbox and ps3 user's can stick with their retarded controllers for FPS. Keyboard + mouse is what a FPS was made for, but I think the wiimote does a damn fine job. The conduit should just improve on it. I'm exited.

(Owner of just a PC + Wii)

Seriously? The Conduit is the first FPS on the Wii that even seems remotely playable, whereas dual thumb sticks FPSes have been refined to the point where most people can do really well with them, with very little autoaim.

Don't get me wrong, I'll be the first guy to say that KB+M is superior in FPSes in every way (other than couch-abilitiy), but to say that the Wiimote does a better job than a 360 controller is laughable.

It's not laughable at all. With the (hopefully) better accuracy of the motionplus it will be a LOT easier to aim with the Wiimote. I'm new to console gaming and find the dual stick controls are very difficult to aim accurately and quickly.

Stick the Wiimote in a zapper type thing and it's like you're really holding the weapon.

Motionplus wont do a single thing for aiming, it has nothing to do with IR.

The main problem with Wii FPS controls is that your viewpoint moves somewhat independently from the cursor, making lining up a simple shot a lot more difficult than it might sound.

AFAIK the Wiimote does not use IR for aiming at least separately. The moitionplus is supposed to greatly improve the "pointer" accuracy. That is what is used for aiming, positioning etc...

 

[Thraxen]

Originally posted by: gar655
AFAIK the Wiimote does not use IR for aiming at least separately. The moitionplus is supposed to greatly improve the "pointer" accuracy. That is what is used for aiming, positioning etc...

Actually, it does use IR. That's why you have to have that bar above or below your TV. I believe that bar has an IR emitter on each end and the Wiimote senses those and estimates where you are pointing on the screen. But I think you may be right that the WM+ is supposed to improve aim as well.

 

[Blayze]

I like the new Classic Controller, although I'm not sure I will buy it. Already have the 1st one, and a Nyko Wing.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: Thraxen

Originally posted by: gar655
AFAIK the Wiimote does not use IR for aiming at least separately. The moitionplus is supposed to greatly improve the "pointer" accuracy. That is what is used for aiming, positioning etc...

Actually, it does use IR. That's why you have to have that bar above or below your TV. I believe that bar has an IR emitter on each end and the Wiimote senses those and estimates where you are pointing on the screen. But I think you may be right that the WM+ is supposed to improve aim as well.

Motionplus is a gyroscope, and only helps with motion control. It has nothing to do with pointing. Pointing and aiming is purely handled through IR. Itll do great things for swordfighting, bowling, golf, whatever uses motion control. Wont do anything for aim.

Dont get me wrong, I particularly enjoy Wii FPS controls, theres something about it thats more fun than dual stick, and it might be more precise at times, but I just wanted to pull my hair out trying to play multiplayer with it, because it was so clunky. Its perfect for light gun games though.

 

[fr]

I think the new controller has something to do with them getting sued.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: ducci

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: ducci
How anyone who grew up playing Nintendo games and is likely now in their 20s cannot resent the company even a little bit is beyond me.

New Play Control!....

Just because there's an exclamation point in there doesn't make it any less shitty, Nintendo.

Those are actually really good games though. Donkey Kong Jungle Beat won't be as much fun without the congas but could still be pretty good. Pikmin is just quirky enough to work well with the Wiimote. The big disappointment will be Mario Power Tennis if it plays more like Wii Play Tennis where you can't control your character's movement.

They were good games when they came out years ago on the Gamecube.

Last year, Nintendo made bank releasing "sequels" to Gamecube games that were ultimately not much different than the originals - Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, Smash Brothers.

This year, Nintendo is doing even less work, and just releasing the originals with new controls, a fancy surname (New Play Control!), and possibly some additional tacked-on features.

On top of that, the new games they actually are putting effort into are targeted towards a completely different demographic - Wii Fit, Wii Music.

Ultimately I don't care and I shouldn't complain - I sold my Wii a while ago. But like I said, I find it difficult for anyone who grew up with a Nintendo console to not feel a bit resentful.

Gamecube didn't sell too well. The Wii is selling very well. If you had the previous games, don't buy it. For people who didn't, they can experience it all over again. Besides, sometimes it's also people who have these games and wondered aloud how they would play with the new controlers and that's exactly what Nintendo is giving them here.

 

[oznerol]

Originally posted by: Dari
Gamecube didn't sell too well. The Wii is selling very well. If you had the previous games, don't buy it. For people who didn't, they can experience it all over again. Besides, sometimes it's also people who have these games and wondered aloud how they would play with the new controlers and that's exactly what Nintendo is giving them here.

The point is, Nintendo isn't giving anyone much else.

Also, the originals play just fine on the Wii. If there was a demand for added waggle, I must have missed it.