Nintendo Income Up 96% On Record Sales

[RandomFool]

Personally I know a lot of people who own an 360 and a Wii and they all play WoW.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: torpid
The 360 has a lot of good games... but the PS3? As far as I can tell, the PS3 is a better blu-ray player than it is a gaming console. Of course, I suppose there are some cross-platform games available on both 360 and PS3... but I don't think those really count since if you owned all 3 consoles you'd probably play the PS3 the least and 360 the most.

i own all 3 consoles and my ps3 and 360 pretty much get the same amount of gaming time, while the wii sits and just looks pretty, although covered in dust.

ps3 i have more fun with for single player games than the 360, and 360 is my multiplayer gaming machine.

 

[RandomFool]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: torpid
The 360 has a lot of good games... but the PS3? As far as I can tell, the PS3 is a better blu-ray player than it is a gaming console. Of course, I suppose there are some cross-platform games available on both 360 and PS3... but I don't think those really count since if you owned all 3 consoles you'd probably play the PS3 the least and 360 the most.

i own all 3 consoles and my ps3 and 360 pretty much get the same amount of gaming time, while the wii sits and just looks pretty, although covered in dust.

ps3 i have more fun with for single player games than the 360, and 360 is my multiplayer gaming machine.

How is it your Wii is always covered in dust but your 360 and PS3 are immune to this dust? Do you dust off your consoles before playing them? Perhaps you keep the 360 and PS3 in some sort of dust proof enclosure? I haven't used my SNES in years yet it doesn't have anymore dust on it than my PS2 which hasn't been used for a few months. My Wii and 360 have roughly equal amounts of dust despite the Wii being used much more often.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: RandomFool

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: torpid
The 360 has a lot of good games... but the PS3? As far as I can tell, the PS3 is a better blu-ray player than it is a gaming console. Of course, I suppose there are some cross-platform games available on both 360 and PS3... but I don't think those really count since if you owned all 3 consoles you'd probably play the PS3 the least and 360 the most.

i own all 3 consoles and my ps3 and 360 pretty much get the same amount of gaming time, while the wii sits and just looks pretty, although covered in dust.

ps3 i have more fun with for single player games than the 360, and 360 is my multiplayer gaming machine.

How is it your Wii is always covered in dust but your 360 and PS3 are immune to this dust? Do you dust off your consoles before playing them? Perhaps you keep the 360 and PS3 in some sort of dust proof enclosure? I haven't used my SNES in years yet it doesn't have anymore dust on it than my PS2 which hasn't been used for a few months. My Wii and 360 have roughly equal amounts of dust despite the Wii being used much more often.

your attempt at a joke = fail.

 

[RandomFool]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: RandomFool

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: torpid
The 360 has a lot of good games... but the PS3? As far as I can tell, the PS3 is a better blu-ray player than it is a gaming console. Of course, I suppose there are some cross-platform games available on both 360 and PS3... but I don't think those really count since if you owned all 3 consoles you'd probably play the PS3 the least and 360 the most.

i own all 3 consoles and my ps3 and 360 pretty much get the same amount of gaming time, while the wii sits and just looks pretty, although covered in dust.

ps3 i have more fun with for single player games than the 360, and 360 is my multiplayer gaming machine.

How is it your Wii is always covered in dust but your 360 and PS3 are immune to this dust? Do you dust off your consoles before playing them? Perhaps you keep the 360 and PS3 in some sort of dust proof enclosure? I haven't used my SNES in years yet it doesn't have anymore dust on it than my PS2 which hasn't been used for a few months. My Wii and 360 have roughly equal amounts of dust despite the Wii being used much more often.

your attempt at a joke = fail.

Do I get credit for trying?

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: RandomFool

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: RandomFool

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: torpid
The 360 has a lot of good games... but the PS3? As far as I can tell, the PS3 is a better blu-ray player than it is a gaming console. Of course, I suppose there are some cross-platform games available on both 360 and PS3... but I don't think those really count since if you owned all 3 consoles you'd probably play the PS3 the least and 360 the most.

i own all 3 consoles and my ps3 and 360 pretty much get the same amount of gaming time, while the wii sits and just looks pretty, although covered in dust.

ps3 i have more fun with for single player games than the 360, and 360 is my multiplayer gaming machine.

How is it your Wii is always covered in dust but your 360 and PS3 are immune to this dust? Do you dust off your consoles before playing them? Perhaps you keep the 360 and PS3 in some sort of dust proof enclosure? I haven't used my SNES in years yet it doesn't have anymore dust on it than my PS2 which hasn't been used for a few months. My Wii and 360 have roughly equal amounts of dust despite the Wii being used much more often.

your attempt at a joke = fail.

Do I get credit for trying?

false.

 

[Wuzup101]

Originally posted by: tk149
You can bet your bottom dollar that the next-gen Microsoft and Sony game consoles come with Wii-mote-like motion-sensing controllers. Is it really a fad if it changes the way videogames are played? The new Sony EYE is just another way to sense motion.

If the next-gen Microsoft and Sony game systems make me swing around a remote then I won't be buying them (plain and simple - I'll stick to 100% PC). The Wii is a great little system, an innovative idea, and IMHO a great expansion to the market. I have enjoyed playing it from time to time at friends homes, but I would never buy one as my primary gaming machine. There is only a limited amount of software for the system that I would even dream of purchasing. Most of the games are a collection of little mini games, and not worth what they cost.

The wii has several major advantages over the other current systems. Innovative game play is definitely at the top of the list. Price is definitely up there too! Graphics still aren't really an issue (hate to break it to you but most people still don't own an HD-TV to begin with). The Wii graphics are plenty powerful to keep you entertained on an SD set (while they don't look all that great on an HD-TV). They are selling to people that wouldn't necessarily buy a system in the first place. Fad or not, it was a GREAT idea on Nintendo's part. Now... it would be GREAT if there were some good 3rd party games for the system to make it worth buying. N puts out some great stuff... but there is a lot of bloat games for the Wii that aren't even worth a rental.

The ironic thing about Wii sales is that it seems like a some of those systems are just in limbo and waiting to be resold. There are what seems to be 10x more Wii listings on craigslist than for PS3/360s. However, I'm sure the unit will have strong sales for quite some time! It's also nice to see a system that actually turns a profit on hardware!

 

[dguy6789]

A few things.

There is a lack of 3rd party games on the Wii because for a while, it was considered a risky investment to spend a lot of money on such a new idea. Now that the Wii has shown to be here to stay, it is much more probable that great third party games will begin to appear.

Second, there are more Wiis for sale on Craigslist and Ebay than 360s and PS3s because it is the only console that you can sell for more than it is worth.

I only need say look at the DS vs the PSP. The DS vs PSP is what the 360/PS3 vs Wii market will look like in a year or two.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: purbeast0
i own all 3 consoles and my ps3 and 360 pretty much get the same amount of gaming time, while the wii sits and just looks pretty, although covered in dust.

ps3 i have more fun with for single player games than the 360, and 360 is my multiplayer gaming machine.

What do you play on it? I don't see more than a couple of games that look worth buying.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Graphics are the fad. People got tired of it.

Then why did the graphics hardware industry recently post its largest quarterly gain in six years?

Wii is wooping the PC's ass too.

It would be interesting to see how many hours per day people spend gaming on Windows versus the Wii, Xbox 360, and PS3 (I do not lump all three consoles into one category to compare against Windows).

If one combined the time people send playing games through web browsers (like flash or java games from various websites, etc.) on their Windows PC, games that ship with with Windows (free cell, solitaire, etc.), and traditional games (that one downloads or gets from removable media to install), I would venture to guess that the Windows gaming platform is doing reasonably well in terms of how many hours per day people play on Windows.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

If one combined the time people send playing games through web browsers (like flash or java games from various websites) on their Windows PC, games that ship with with Windows (free cell, solitaire), and traditional games (that one downloads or gets from removable media to install), I would venture to guess that the Windows gaming platform is doing decently (in terms of how many hours per day people play games on that platform), the total hours might even surpass a few console platforms.

It would be interesting but I doubt it will beat any of the consoles. You would have to dismiss any hours where these games are played at work or away from home because those hours are not spent playing them over consoles by choice.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

It would be interesting but I doubt it will beat any of the consoles. You would have to dismiss any hours where these games are played at work or away from home because those hours are not spent playing them over consoles by choice.

One could reason that they do have a choice in that they could bring their portable consoles (PSP, GameBoys, etc.) with them and play them instead.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: Xavier434

It would be interesting but I doubt it will beat any of the consoles. You would have to dismiss any hours where these games are played at work or away from home because those hours are not spent playing them over consoles by choice.

One could reason that they do have a choice in that they could bring their portable consoles (PSP, GameBoys, etc.) with them and play them instead.

True, but I doubt many could bring them to work. Plus, if you own a portable console, I assume that means you will most likely choose to play it vs solitaire on your laptop, but that is the question at hand here I suppose. Which would they choose?

 

[Schadenfroh]

There are so many factors when one thinks about it, might be best not to go there (I am way off topic as it is).

 

[dguy6789]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Graphics are the fad. People got tired of it.

Then why did the graphics hardware industry recently post its largest quarterly gain in six years?

Why is guitar hero selling so well? Why did portal get rave reviews from every single person who played it? The answer is relatively simple. These games are different from the same shooters, racers, and sports games that people have been playing different versions of for the last seven years. People got the games and thought "Wow, this is pretty cool, I have never played anything like this before" and they had a blast.

(To be fair, Guitar Hero type beat based games have been around a long time, but until now, they required physical exercise, so it didn't become too popular here in America.)

I can point once again to the DS vs PSP. One is more of the same with better graphics, the other is cheaper and offers very original and fresh gameplay. I wonder which one is selling better.

I am a PC gamer at heart, by the way. I have had all kinds of consoles from the 8 bit era all the way up to now, of both Sega, Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft. Sometime in that time span, games like C&C and UT won me over. I got into pc gaming majorly. Come to present day and games like C&C 3 and UT3 and Crysis have me bored miserably. I played all the Halos. I thought the first one was epic. The second one I spent maybe a month on and got bored. The third one I got bored of playing at a friend's house. I got a Wii and Galaxy and have not had so much fun in years. It was like firing up UT for the very first time. The Wii and games like Galaxy are in a whole different league from the likes of Halo 3 and Crysis.

 

[juiio]

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
http://wii.ign.com/articles/847/847472p1.html

Apparently the Wii had more games sold per console than XBOX 360 AND ps3 during the holidays. Take that Wii haters.

That statistic is completely worthless. They're comparing the number of games bought by ALL owners to the number of consoles sold only in December. Consider these two examples:

- 2 consoles sold lifetime (1 in December, 1 pre-December). Each owner bought 1 game in December. The statistic from this article is now 1:1.

- 100 consoles sold lifetime (2 in December, 98 pre-December). Each owner bought 1 game in December. The statistic from this article is now 50:1.

So using their statistic, you'd have 1:1 in one example, and 50:1 in the other example, but in both examples, each owner of the console only bought one game.

The statistic would be worthwhile if it was games bought in December by all owners versus number of consoles sold all time, or if it was games bought in December by people who bought a console in December versus number of people who bought a console in December. But as-is, their statistic is completely meaningless.

They do bring up the lifetime tie-in ratio, but not until the last sentence. "It should be noted that Wii's life-to-date software to hardware tie ratio is at 4.64, compared to 4.26 on PlayStation 3 (despite a much smaller installed base) and 7.0 on Xbox 360, according to NPD data." Of course, that sentence shows that they don't understand ratios at all since they say "(despite a much smaller installed base)".

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: juiio

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
http://wii.ign.com/articles/847/847472p1.html

Apparently the Wii had more games sold per console than XBOX 360 AND ps3 during the holidays. Take that Wii haters.

That statistic is completely worthless. They're comparing the number of games bought by ALL owners to the number of consoles sold only in December. Consider these two examples:

- 2 consoles sold lifetime (1 in December, 1 pre-December). Each owner bought 1 game in December. The statistic from this article is now 1:1.

- 100 consoles sold lifetime (2 in December, 98 pre-December). Each owner bought 1 game in December. The statistic from this article is now 50:1.

So using their statistic, you'd have 1:1 in one example, and 50:1 in the other example, but in both examples, each owner of the console only bought one game.

The statistic would be worthwhile if it was games bought in December by all owners versus number of consoles sold all time, or if it was games bought in December by people who bought a console in December versus number of people who bought a console in December. But as-is, their statistic is completely meaningless.

They do bring up the lifetime tie-in ratio, but not until the last sentence. "It should be noted that Wii's life-to-date software to hardware tie ratio is at 4.64, compared to 4.26 on PlayStation 3 (despite a much smaller installed base) and 7.0 on Xbox 360, according to NPD data." Of course, that sentence shows that they don't understand ratios at all since they say "(despite a much smaller installed base)".

49:1

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Wait...he doesn't even own a Wii and talking crap about it here? This is almost as bad as the that chic who stated that garbage about Mass Effect on Fox News.

Why would I own something that I don't find fun? Yes, I've played several games. No, none were remotely entertaining. Even the gimmicky ones had shitty controls. Your comparison is nowhere near the same.

 

[TanisHalfElven]

Originally posted by: tenshodo13
I really have no idea why the Wii sells so well.

Most of its "games" are only mini games put under a popular title i.e Wario Ware , Mario Party ..etc. There aren't many good "full" games.

and most people have only a few minutes a day ot play games. works out well.
hell i'm in college (though i admit taking 19 hours in engineering is not a traditional college load) but i haven't touched my Wii or my 360 in 3 weeks since semester started.

full games require too much of a tiome contribution. minigames don't. that why Wii is so much fun.

ps. wario ware is awesome.

 

[juiio]

49:1

The new owners bought 1 as well. 100 games sold, 2 new owners.

 

[Eeezee]

Of course it's a fad. The iPod is a fad, too.

Fads sell well. There's no way to know when a fad ends, it just does.

Posting "Hey check it out, this fad is making tons of money!" doesn't mean anything.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Are there enough people who want a wii to use it to keep sales at 2+ million a month next xmas?

That's the same argument I heard in January 2007. I think it's obvious now that the Wii's target market (non-gamers) is large enough to keep sales at roughly 15-20 million units per year for the next few years.

Don't agree? No big deal; monthly sales data makes it easy to track trends. They'll likely have one or two new Wii colors for Christmas 2008 that will make them the hottest holiday item for three years running.

As for the attach rate argument: it simply doesn't matter at all when your installed base is sufficiently large. Developers and publishers make money off units sold, not attach rates.

The fact of the matter is, Nintendo has always made profit on every Wii console sold (unlike MS and Sony). As such, it doesn't matter how many games get sold. If the attach rate was 1, then Nintendo still makes a shitload of money.

 

[Tom]

As far as Wii attach rate, does it include Wii Sports which is sold for a nice profit with each system sale ?