Nikon P80

[dug777]

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0804/08041003nikonp80.asp


Kinda reminds me of the Sony R1, but that used the D80 sensor, right?

Will this rumble with the G9 or the S5?

 

[ElFenix]

olympus announced that camera almost 3 months ago

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
olympus announced that camera almost 3 months ago

Spooky

Will be interesting to see how they stack up irl, Nikon has surely got to get the P&S game right one day!

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: ElFenix
olympus announced that camera almost 3 months ago

Spooky

Will be interesting to see how they stack up irl, Nikon has surely got to get the P&S game right one day!

in 60 years they haven't, so, maybe, but i won't hold my breath.

 

[Deadtrees]

What's special about this camera? Isn't it just one of those super zoom cameras that have been flooding the market for manay years?

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Deadtrees
What's special about this camera? Isn't it just one of those super zoom cameras that have been flooding the market for manay years?

Agreed. The only 'really' innovative digicam to come out in years is the Casio EX-F1

Too bad it's super expensive.

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

Olympus already came out with a very similar camera with 18x lens:

http://www.dpreview.com/review...lympus/oly_sp560uz.asp

Basically, it's pretty crappy.

I used to be a fan of super zooms, but the whole sensor resolution war is just getting stupid. Well, it hasn't gotten stupid. It's been stupid for a while now.

 

[ObiDon]

Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
I used to be a fan of super zooms, but the whole sensor resolution war is just getting stupid. Well, it hasn't gotten stupid. It's been stupid for a while now.

that's why i never got a new one to replace my fz20.

it seems like all that segment of the market cares about now is having the most megapixels without regards to image quality (seems like they've been getting noisier) and having the biggest zoom range. it's just all marketable numbers now. the funny thing is that most of the 18x cameras don't realistically have much more zoom range than my old fz20. they just play with the bottom number of the ratio to make it look bigger than it is so it will wow joe blow. for example, this one at 18x has 27-486mm compared to my 12x fz20 at 36-432mm. whooptie freakin' doo. not exactly the huge increase one would expect for going to 18x from 12x.

why didn't they just try to make it down to 24-486mm so they could claim "20x super-mega-uber zoom!!!"

 

[ZOXXO]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: ElFenix
olympus announced that camera almost 3 months ago

Spooky

Will be interesting to see how they stack up irl, Nikon has surely got to get the P&S game right one day!

in 60 years they haven't, so, maybe, but i won't hold my breath.

Google "Coolpix 990 awards".

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: ZOXXO

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: ElFenix
olympus announced that camera almost 3 months ago

Spooky

Will be interesting to see how they stack up irl, Nikon has surely got to get the P&S game right one day!

in 60 years they haven't, so, maybe, but i won't hold my breath.

Google "Coolpix 990 awards".

about the most innovative p&s since the olympus xa, but nikon basically abandoned everything that made that camera neat and just went with more and more me-too crud to compete with canony

Originally posted by: ObiDon
they just play with the bottom number of the ratio to make it look bigger than it is so it will wow joe blow. for example, this one at 18x has 27-486mm compared to my 12x fz20 at 36-432mm. whooptie freakin' doo. not exactly the huge increase one would expect for going to 18x from 12x.

27 is much wider than 36.
frankly, i'd rather have a 12x 27-324 than a 12x 36-432.

 

[Fardringle]

The difference between 432mm and 486mm on the telephoto end is not very noticeable. However, as ElFenix mentioned, the difference between 27mm and 36mm on the wide angle end is huge. As another example, I created a temporary gallery with 36mm, 27mm, and 23.8mm (tossed in just because I happen to have it) photos so you can see the difference in pictures larger than the thumbnail sized shots on that DPReview link.

Wide Angle comparison

 

[ObiDon]

Originally posted by: Fardringle
The difference between 432mm and 486mm on the telephoto end is not very noticeable. However, as ElFenix mentioned, the difference between 27mm and 36mm on the wide angle end is huge.

definitely true
however, i think there has only been one instance (a waterfall which i was at the bottom of and couldn't step back from any more than i already did) in which i wished i could have gone wider. most p&s users probably wouldn't even notice it's not there. i think it's pretty much used to fudge the marketing numbers and "wow" the average consumer.

 

[Aharami]

my solution to not having a WA lens on my S3IS is to take 2 or more shots and stitch them into a WA shot later on

 

[Netopia]

ARGHGHGHG!!!! I was going to buy my daughter an S5 TODAY... now I wonder if I should wait. The S5 does have the movable/rotatable viewscreen (very handy) and the shotshoe, but if image quality is better on either the Nikon or the mentioned Olympus, then I suppose I should disappoint her and make her wait a little longer.

Hmmmm.....

Joe