Nielsen ratings are such a crock !!!!

13Gigatons

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There are 5,000 households in the national People Meter sample, approximately 20,000 households in the local metered market samples, approximately 1,000 metered homes for our national and local Hispanic measurement, and nearly 1.6 million diaries are edited each year.


This why good tv programs always get cancelled.
 

Modeps

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Originally posted by: 13Gigatons

Until they get a actual chip inside every TV that says what channel people are watching then any system will be innaccurate.
That wont work either, unless of course you turn off your TV every time you goto the can or answer the phone or grab some cheetos... or post on ATOT while 'watching' tv... or... etc etc
 

13Gigatons

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Originally posted by: Modeps
Originally posted by: 13Gigatons

Until they get a actual chip inside every TV that says what channel people are watching then any system will be innaccurate.
That wont work either, unless of course you turn off your TV every time you goto the can or answer the phone or grab some cheetos... or post on ATOT while 'watching' tv... or... etc etc

They don't know now if your watching. The rating would simply state that 50 million TV's were tuned to the World Series not how many people were watching.


One big screen in a bar has a lot of people watching.
 

zixxer

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Originally posted by: BillGates
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I believe the answer you're looking for is 'who gives a sh1t' about the world series

^ fixed

yeah wtf.. the world series is going on. I hope _________ wins.
 

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yea with households with every person having one or more tv's, tv tuners in pc's etc they have no real way of tracking viewership accurately these days. its not like the old days where a family watched tv together and could only afford the one living room set:p

not to mention dvr/vcr/torrent;)
 

DaveSimmons

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I'd have watched House M.D. on TV last night, but there was some stupid baseball game on. So I popped in disc 2 of Lost season 1, much more entertaining.

What is this "world series"? is it baseball too?


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Wingznut

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Originally posted by: AccruedExpenditure
I guarentee you 50 million people are not watching the world series.

In fact i don't know anyone who is.

Baseball, FTL.
I grew up a huge baseball fan. You couldn't pry me away from the TV during the playoffs and the WS.

But now, I just can't sit there and watch several hours of baseball. A typical game should take 2.5 hours MAX.


All of my friends are sports junkies... And I don't know anyone who is watching this WS from start to finish.
 

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Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
There are 5,000 households in the national People Meter sample, approximately 20,000 households in the local metered market samples, approximately 1,000 metered homes for our national and local Hispanic measurement, and nearly 1.6 million diaries are edited each year.


This why good tv programs always get cancelled.

? :confused:

You don't need to sample the entire public to estimate the actual number of viewers with a reasonable degree of accuracy. Those Nielsen folks are a lot smarter than you are, no offense. :)
 

kyparrish

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Wow, I can speak to this directly.

The national sample has been doubled to 10,000 people through expanding the National installed home base, and incorporating the large local markets (NY, Boston, LA, Chicago, D.C., etc.) that have been hooked up with people meters. So, now, the national sample consists of ~7,000 nationwide homes, plus the data from the large local markets). There are also probably closer to 25,000 installed homes in Metered Markets (cities such as Charlotte, Phoenix, Richmond, VA...cities that aren't big enough to support local people meters). The local Metered Markets are how your local Fox, CBS, ABC, NBC, UPN, WB affiliates get their Ratings. The sample is installed to very closely resemble the Universal Estimate (i.e. x% of homes <35 years of age, y% homes 35-54 years of age, z% homes 55+ years of age).

 

kyparrish

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Also, these "people meters" are the devices that track who exactly in a household is watching a certain program (i.e a 15 year old white male). Homes in the metered market samples aren't that specific. It is just known that the household gave credit to the program, could have been the 15 y/o, or his Mom, or his sister, etc.
 

I Saw OJ

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Originally posted by: kyparrish
Also, these "people meters" are the devices that track who exactly in a household is watching a certain program (i.e a 15 year old white male). Homes in the metered market samples aren't that specific. It is just known that the household gave credit to the program, could have been the 15 y/o, or his Mom, or his sister, etc.

Thats right, my parents had that in their house for a year or so and boy that thing was a PITA. Each member of the house had a little code they had to press when they sat down to watch the tv, you had to press the code each time you changed the channel, if you watch one channel for more than like 15 minutes or something, you had to press your code, it was a nightmare. You couldnt just sit and watch tv, you had to babysit the day ratings box the whole time.


Seth
 

kyparrish

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Originally posted by: I Saw OJ
Originally posted by: kyparrish
Also, these "people meters" are the devices that track who exactly in a household is watching a certain program (i.e a 15 year old white male). Homes in the metered market samples aren't that specific. It is just known that the household gave credit to the program, could have been the 15 y/o, or his Mom, or his sister, etc.

Thats right, my parents had that in their house for a year or so and boy that thing was a PITA. Each member of the house had a little code they had to press when they sat down to watch the tv, you had to press the code each time you changed the channel, if you watch one channel for more than like 15 minutes or something, you had to press your code, it was a nightmare. You couldnt just sit and watch tv, you had to babysit the day ratings box the whole time.


Seth

The newer units aren't prompted to blink everytime you change your channel. Sorry you had the old crappy ones! The new technology is time-based and gives you 43 minutes in-between blinks. With the older ones, it forced you to log back in every time you changed the channel.

All of the people who lived in the house 24/7/365 had a single button they could hit to log in, but if you came over as a visitor, you had to enter your age and sex. Kudos to the Nielsen rep. who trained you all, he/she did a good job :)
 

Syringer

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I believe during sweeps when the # of households surveyed are increased, the accuracy of the surveys are still every bit as accurate as from before...
 

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Baseball ****** sucks, its boring as hell.

Football > Basketball > x > y > z > .... > Baseball
 

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Originally posted by: Syringer
I believe during sweeps when the # of households surveyed are increased, the accuracy of the surveys are still every bit as accurate as from before...

YOU STILL POST HERE? :Q