nice week for mass gun violence

[NeoV]

April 4 - father kills self, 5 children in Seattle area
April 4 - man kills 3 cops in PA
April 3 - man kills 13, self, wounds many others in NY
March 29 - man kills 7 at a nursing home in NC
March 29 - Man kills 5 relatives and himself in CA

It's ok though, because all of these shooters were criminals, who can get guns anytime they want.

Oh, and it's also the fault of our failing economy.

Place head back in sand, nothing to see here.

 

[palehorse]

Before I can respond adequately, I'd like to know what point(s) you're trying to make here...?

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: palehorse
Before I comment, I'd like to know what point(s) you're trying to make here...?

as do I.

 

[fallout man]

Originally posted by: NeoV
April 4 - father kills self, 5 children in Seattle area
April 4 - man kills 3 cops in PA
April 3 - man kills 13, self, wounds many others in NY
March 29 - man kills 7 at a nursing home in NC
March 29 - Man kills 5 relatives and himself in CA

It's ok though, because all of these shooters were criminals, who can get guns anytime they want.

Oh, and it's also the fault of our failing economy.

Place head back in sand, nothing to see here.

If those geriatrics had been packing heat, the tragedy would have never happened.

 

[Sacrilege]

Originally posted by: NeoV
April 4 - father kills self, 5 children in Seattle area
April 4 - man kills 3 cops in PA
April 3 - man kills 13, self, wounds many others in NY
March 29 - man kills 7 at a nursing home in NC
March 29 - Man kills 5 relatives and himself in CA

It's ok though, because all of these shooters were criminals, who can get guns anytime they want.

Oh, and it's also the fault of our failing economy.

Place head back in sand, nothing to see here.

Some of this can be blamed on Obama.

If a Republican was in office, the economy could very well be in better shape. And 2nd Amendment aficionados wouldn't be up in arms about an imminent gun grab.

And now we know for a fact that one of these incidents was precipitated by the shooter's fear of 2nd Amendment rights being curtailed; I considered Obama partially responsible for that tragedy, for creating a climate of fear of the demise of the Bill of Rights.

 

[bamacre]

Someone could probably make a thread about a series of events surrounding corrupt cops but I don't think any reasonable person would want to ban cops.

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: Sacrilege

Originally posted by: NeoV
April 4 - father kills self, 5 children in Seattle area
April 4 - man kills 3 cops in PA
April 3 - man kills 13, self, wounds many others in NY
March 29 - man kills 7 at a nursing home in NC
March 29 - Man kills 5 relatives and himself in CA

It's ok though, because all of these shooters were criminals, who can get guns anytime they want.

Oh, and it's also the fault of our failing economy.

Place head back in sand, nothing to see here.

Some of this can be blamed on Obama.

If a Republican was in office, the economy could very well be in better shape. And 2nd Amendment aficionados wouldn't be up in arms about an imminent gun grab.

And now we know for a fact that one of these incidents was precipitated by the shooter's fear of 2nd Amendment rights being curtailed; I considered Obama partially responsible for that tragedy, for creating a climate of fear of the demise of the Bill of Rights.

And you'd be a moron.

 

[fallout man]

Originally posted by: Sacrilege

Originally posted by: NeoV
April 4 - father kills self, 5 children in Seattle area
April 4 - man kills 3 cops in PA
April 3 - man kills 13, self, wounds many others in NY
March 29 - man kills 7 at a nursing home in NC
March 29 - Man kills 5 relatives and himself in CA

It's ok though, because all of these shooters were criminals, who can get guns anytime they want.

Oh, and it's also the fault of our failing economy.

Place head back in sand, nothing to see here.

Some of this can be blamed on Obama.

If a Republican was in office, the economy could very well be in better shape. And 2nd Amendment aficionados wouldn't be up in arms about an imminent gun grab.

And now we know for a fact that one of these incidents was precipitated by the shooter's fear of 2nd Amendment rights being curtailed; I considered Obama partially responsible for that tragedy, for creating a climate of fear of the demise of the Bill of Rights.

Oh, so it's ok to blame every drug overdose on Reagan?

Cool beans!

 

[Sacrilege]

By the way, you forgot to add:

Man kills 4 police officers in Oakland.

Did you leave that one out because he was black, or because his victims were police officers?

 

[Sacrilege]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Sacrilege

Originally posted by: NeoV
April 4 - father kills self, 5 children in Seattle area
April 4 - man kills 3 cops in PA
April 3 - man kills 13, self, wounds many others in NY
March 29 - man kills 7 at a nursing home in NC
March 29 - Man kills 5 relatives and himself in CA

It's ok though, because all of these shooters were criminals, who can get guns anytime they want.

Oh, and it's also the fault of our failing economy.

Place head back in sand, nothing to see here.

Some of this can be blamed on Obama.

If a Republican was in office, the economy could very well be in better shape. And 2nd Amendment aficionados wouldn't be up in arms about an imminent gun grab.

And now we know for a fact that one of these incidents was precipitated by the shooter's fear of 2nd Amendment rights being curtailed; I considered Obama partially responsible for that tragedy, for creating a climate of fear of the demise of the Bill of Rights.

And you'd be a moron.

You can say what you want but you cannot dispute the bolded part!!!

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: Sacrilege

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: Sacrilege

Originally posted by: NeoV
April 4 - father kills self, 5 children in Seattle area
April 4 - man kills 3 cops in PA
April 3 - man kills 13, self, wounds many others in NY
March 29 - man kills 7 at a nursing home in NC
March 29 - Man kills 5 relatives and himself in CA

It's ok though, because all of these shooters were criminals, who can get guns anytime they want.

Oh, and it's also the fault of our failing economy.

Place head back in sand, nothing to see here.

Some of this can be blamed on Obama.

If a Republican was in office, the economy could very well be in better shape. And 2nd Amendment aficionados wouldn't be up in arms about an imminent gun grab.

And now we know for a fact that one of these incidents was precipitated by the shooter's fear of 2nd Amendment rights being curtailed; I considered Obama partially responsible for that tragedy, for creating a climate of fear of the demise of the Bill of Rights.

And you'd be a moron.

You can say what you want but you cannot dispute the bolded part!!!

In your opinion.

and unless I'm reading you wrong - you seem to say these folks had it coming.

 

[NeoV]

Wow sacrilege, you have issues - anyone fearing the 'demise of the bill of rights' from Obama is pretty much a moron, and the only 'climate' going through that is the cloud of idiocy you live under

Also, the officers killed in Oakland - I wasn't actually aware of the color of their skin - but that was on March 23, well outside of the 'week of shootings' I was discussing. Also, I did mention cops being killed in PA - thanks for trying though

Sadly, I'm quite sure I could list every day of the year and fill in gun murders in this country.

My point is - and I'll say for the umpteenth time on here - I'm not calling for a ban on guns in this country - however, the lack of concern for gun-related violence in this country is just staggering to me.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Sacrilege

Originally posted by: NeoV
April 4 - father kills self, 5 children in Seattle area
April 4 - man kills 3 cops in PA
April 3 - man kills 13, self, wounds many others in NY
March 29 - man kills 7 at a nursing home in NC
March 29 - Man kills 5 relatives and himself in CA

It's ok though, because all of these shooters were criminals, who can get guns anytime they want.

Oh, and it's also the fault of our failing economy.

Place head back in sand, nothing to see here.

Some of this can be blamed on Obama.

If a Republican was in office, the economy could very well be in better shape. And 2nd Amendment aficionados wouldn't be up in arms about an imminent gun grab.

And now we know for a fact that one of these incidents was precipitated by the shooter's fear of 2nd Amendment rights being curtailed; I considered Obama partially responsible for that tragedy, for creating a climate of fear of the demise of the Bill of Rights.

:laugh:

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: NeoV
My point is - and I'll say for the umpteenth time on here - I'm not calling for a ban on guns in this country - however, the lack of concern for gun-related violence in this country is just staggering to me.

What. exactly, are you calling for then?

 

[ZzZGuy]

Well, perhaps you Americans will at least try to control the amount of guns going unaccounted onto the street. Hand gun smuggling into Canada from the USA has been a big problem for a while now.

 

[NeoV]

someone to care about the dead people outside of their immediate families. Someone to actually stand up and say we have a problem in this country - not someone to pull stats about people getting killed in car accidents out of their ass. Eliminating drunk drivers would be a great topic too - but again, we are cowards in this country to admit there is a problem there either.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: NeoV
someone to care about the dead people outside of their immediate families. Someone to actually stand up and say we have a problem in this country - not someone to pull stats about people getting killed in car accidents out of their ass. Eliminating drunk drivers would be a great topic too - but again, we are cowards in this country to admit there is a problem there either.

So when the statistics get in the way of your view point you don't want to hear them? Shocker.

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: NeoV
someone to care about the dead people outside of their immediate families. Someone to actually stand up and say we have a problem in this country - not someone to pull stats about people getting killed in car accidents out of their ass. Eliminating drunk drivers would be a great topic too - but again, we are cowards in this country to admit there is a problem there either.

Neo. There are always problems, dreadful, dark and sad...

and there is nothing you or I can do about it...


People sick of mind will kill others - no matter what the tool they use....

 

[JD50]

Oh, and just because we don't want to take away the rights of law abiding citizens doesn't mean that we don't care about the people that dies as a result of gun violence. We just feel that there are better solutions to the problem then taking away guns from law abiding citizens. BTW, in how many of those incidents were a legal firearm used? Serious question because I have no idea.

 

[NeoV]

it's a different topic entirely, though typical of the don't-say-anything-bad-about-my-guns crowd deflection tactics

If you want to cut down deaths from auto accidents, you have to stop people from drinking and driving, period. Through technology or more severe punishment - you pick. Raise the driving minimum age to 18.

Different topic, like I said. That's the best you can do to 'defend' the gun violence here? Nice try.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: NeoV
it's a different topic entirely, though typical of the don't-say-anything-bad-about-my-guns crowd deflection tactics

If you want to cut down deaths from auto accidents, you have to stop people from drinking and driving, period. Through technology or more severe punishment - you pick. Raise the driving minimum age to 18.

Different topic, like I said. That's the best you can do to 'defend' the gun violence here? Nice try.

I don't own a gun, nor do I care to. However, in order to be analogous in this particular situation, cutting down on auto accidents would involve banning cars completely. I doubt anyone would agree that's the answer to cutting down on deaths from auto accidents (not to mention that drinking and driving doesn't cover all the issues). The same applies to guns. Punishing the law abiding majority to solve an issue with the small minority makes no sense.

 

[bipartisanpwnage]

I think we need to educate people and support our lower class so they don't become gun toting crazies. Maybe we can reform our prison systems so our criminals have some valuable skills upon release instead of giving them a master class in crime in prison and setting our tax dollars on fire. I think this gun problem is more of the canary in the coal mine and a symptom of a larger problem rather than the problem itself. No one in their right mind thinks we should outlaw guns, we just want less mass shootings.

 

[JKing106]

I agree. We need to edumacate inbred crackers in trailer parks. Maybe we can cure them of their pathological fear of "dahkies" having sex with their daughters, instead of them doing it.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: JKing106
I agree. We need to edumacate inbred crackers in trailer parks. Maybe we can cure them of their pathological fear of "dahkies" having sex with their daughters, instead of them doing it.

I hope that is either sarcasm or a temp ban......


Donated $100 to the NRA today, and I live further from the trailer park than you will ever get.

Gun rights are not a R/D issue. There is a reason Pelosi is tap-dancing around it.

As soon as the 2nd amendment is attacked, Democrats lose seats.

There is a reason why gun-grabbing Dennis Kucinich is not even taken seriously be his own party.

The South is a huge part of the electorate. The base of Southern Democrats is growing, and they respect the 2nd amendment as much as anyone else.

 

[JKing106]

Of course it's sarcasm. You sure you're not in a trailer park? What else motivates one to buy a handgun or assault rifle than fear?