Nice interview with my former client commenting on the Gates arrest

[L00PY]

I'm not familiar with MA law, but I suspect entrapment isn't illegal per se, but rather a valid defense against a criminal charge. Whether or not it would be considered entrapment is probably a tangential issue.

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: Genx87
I remember you talking about that case 1-2 years ago. What a god damn disgrace. Glad you were helpful in securing a settlement for him.

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[smack Down]

Originally posted by: cubeless

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: Genx87
I remember you talking about that case 1-2 years ago. What a god damn disgrace. Glad you were helpful in securing a settlement for him.

Yep, that's a good thing.

Still, I don't believe his characterization of the events are accurate.

When Hixon first heard that Henry Louis Gates had been mistaken for a burglar and arrested in his home after a confrontation, he knew what would come next.

The police were trying to determine after a report for a neighbor if the person in Gates home was a burglar. Further, he wasn't arrested in his home after a confrontation. He decided to raise a public disturbance outside his home in public.

The circumstances and outcome were completely different than your clients. I'm entirely sympathetic to him, however to remotely equate the two because both happen to be black doesn't hold. There are serious problems with some police. Gates/Crowley isn't a good example of that.

and gates had nary a bruise on him...

and cops end up dead if they have too much 'e.q.'... all you second guessers have never had to be in a situation where your life is potentially at risk and the situation in not under control...

and equating these two situations is part of the problem and why bo got whacked on this... the old guard can't stand that the cop didn't beat the guy up, so now they move on to anytime a black is arrested as their basis for racism...

That argument goes both ways Gates life was more at risk then the police officer so maybe gates should have just shoot the pig before opening the door.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: WHAMPOM

Get some facts right, Gates identified himself inside the house. "Serve and Protect" Cops would then ask the home owner's permission to check the house for possible burglers.

Doesn't matter if he identified himself inside the house or not. He went outside and disturbed the peace. What don't you understand about that? Or do you just see a White cop and a oppressed black man and automatically think the cop is a racist. You seem to be the racist in that with all the facts presented in the case, you still can't let it go that Gates was in the wrong.
I have reservations on whether Gates should keep his title as a Scholar because he's obviously ignorant about laws.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Gates had the choice of not going off in public. It was after he did that he was arrested.

Now Don has a reasonable perspective based on what he's seen and can know. Sorry but the attempt to villify Crowley as a thug or whatever was proved laughable before. You can always send him hate mail if you like.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: cubeless


and gates had nary a bruise on him...

and cops end up dead if they have too much 'e.q.'... all you second guessers have never had to be in a situation where your life is potentially at risk and the situation in not under control...

and equating these two situations is part of the problem and why bo got whacked on this... the old guard can't stand that the cop didn't beat the guy up, so now they move on to anytime a black is arrested as their basis for racism...

That argument goes both ways Gates life was more at risk then the police officer so maybe gates should have just shoot the pig before opening the door.

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[CitizenKain]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Get some facts right, Gates identified himself inside the house. "Serve and Protect" Cops would then ask the home owner's permission to check the house for possible burglers.

Doesn't matter if he identified himself inside the house or not. He went outside and disturbed the peace. What don't you understand about that? Or do you just see a White cop and a oppressed black man and automatically think the cop is a racist. You seem to be the racist in that with all the facts presented in the case, you still can't let it go that Gates was in the wrong.
I have reservations on whether Gates should keep his title as a Scholar because he's obviously ignorant about laws.
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Except he wasn't in the wrong and the fact the police dropped the case proves it. Sorry reality has once again shown that you have no idea what you are talking about. You seem to be the racist in that with all the facts presented in the case, you still can't let it go that Crowley was in the wrong.

 

[tk149]

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone

In fairness to Gates, the only reason he was outside his home is that the police ordered him out. He was inside when the responding officers arrived.

If you believe the police report, Crowley did not order Gates outside, nor did he even ask Gates to step outside. Crowley claims that he simply said that he told Gates he was leaving, and if Gates had any further questions, he could ask Crowley outside. According to the police report and at least one eyewitness, Gates was yelling after he stepped outside.

Gates was understandably irritated after a 20 hour flight and getting locked out of his own house, but he was still an ass for going off on a cop for doing his job. You'd expect better from a Harvard professor.

Your former client seems like a good guy. I hope he eventually recovers fully.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Except he wasn't in the wrong and the fact the police dropped the case proves it. Sorry reality has once again shown that you have no idea what you are talking about. You seem to be the racist in that with all the facts presented in the case, you still can't let it go that Crowley was in the wrong.

Gates was i nthe wrong. You go outside and scream and carry on like a fool, you get charged with disturbing the peace. The only reason the charges were dropped is because it turned into a circus and the DA didn't want to have this case on his record.
Why can't you stop thinking cops are all racist pigs and actually see the evidence at hand. Gates exited the residence (not his personal property mind you it was Harvard property) and acted a fool.
Please show me where he didn't exit the house and disturb the peace? Oh you can't because even gates admits to what he did.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Except he wasn't in the wrong and the fact the police dropped the case proves it. Sorry reality has once again shown that you have no idea what you are talking about. You seem to be the racist in that with all the facts presented in the case, you still can't let it go that Crowley was in the wrong.

Gates was i nthe wrong. You go outside and scream and carry on like a fool, you get charged with disturbing the peace. The only reason the charges were dropped is because it turned into a circus and the DA didn't want to have this case on his record.
Why can't you stop thinking cops are all racist pigs and actually see the evidence at hand. Gates exited the residence (not his personal property mind you it was Harvard property) and acted a fool.
Please show me where he didn't exit the house and disturb the peace? Oh you can't because even gates admits to what he did.

sorry to disappoint you but most cops are racists pigs that is the truth. 999,999,999 times out of 1,000,000,00 times a white person will get treated better than an african american or an asian or a hispanic. Cold hard facts--deal with them!!