"Nice Guys"

SaintGRW

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this is for my other thread... Linkage

What's wrong with Nice Guys?

The biggest problem is that most Nice Guys are hideously insecure. They are so eager to be liked and loved that they do things for other people to gain acceptance and attention, rather than for the simply pleasure of giving. You never know if a Nice Guy really likes you for who you are, or if he has glommed onto you out of desperation because you actually paid some kind of
attention to him.

Nice Guys exude insecurity -- a big red target for the predators of the world. There are women out there who are "users" -- just looking for a sucker to take advantage of. Users home-in on "Nice Guys," stroke their egos, take them for a ride, add a notch to their belts, and move on. It's no wonder so many Nice Guys complain about women being horrible, when the so often the kind of woman that gets attracted to them is the lowest form of life...

Self-confident, caring, decent-hearted women find "Nice Guys" to be too clingy, self-abasing, and insecure. Nice Guys go overboard. They bring roses to a "lets get together for coffee"
date. They try to buy her affections with presents and fancy things. They think they know about romance, but their timing is all wrong, and they either come-on too strong, too hard and too fast, OR, they are so shy and unassertive, that they hang around pretending to be "friends," in the hope that somehow, someway, they will get the courage up to ask her out for a "date." They are so desperate to please that they put aside their own needs, and place the object of their desire on a pedestal. Instead of appreciating her, they worship her. We are only human, and pedestals are narrow, confining places to be -- not to mention the fact that we tend to fall off to them. They cling to her, and want to be "one" with her for fear that if she is out of sight, she may disappear or become attracted to someone else. A Nice Guy
often has trouble with emotional intimacy, because he believes that if she learns about the REAL person inside, she will no longer love him. Nice Guys are always asking HER to make the decisions. They think it's being equitable, but it puts an unfair burden of responsibility on her, and gives him the opportunity to blame her if the decision was an unwise one. Nice Guys rarely speak up when something bothers them, and rarely state
clearly what it is they want, need and expect. They fear that any kind of conflict might spell the end of the relationship. Instead of compromising and negotiating, they repeatedly "give in." When she doesn't appreciate their sacrifice, they will complain that, "Everything I did, I did for her," as if this somehow elevates them to the status of martyrs. A woman doesn't want a martyr. She wants an equal, caring, adult partner.

Nice Guys think that they will never meet anyone as special as she is. They use their adoration as a foundation for claiming that "no one will ever love her as much as I do." Instead of being a profound statement of their devotion, this is a subtle, but nasty insult. It is akin to saying to her: "You are a difficult person, and only *I* can ever truly love you, so be thankful I'm here."

The nice guy -need's- to believe that he is the best person for the object of his desires, because otherwise his insecurities will overrun him with jealousies and fear. The truth of the matter is that there are many people out there who can be a good match for her. We rarely stop loving people we truly care about. Even if we no longer continue the relationship, the feelings will continue... But love isn't mutually exclusive. We can (and
do) love many people in our lives, and romantic love is really no different. Though he may love her immensely, there will likely be other people who have loved her just as much in her past, and will love her just as much in the future. The irony of it all is: "Who would want to go out with someone who was inherently unlovable anyway?"

More than loving the woman in his life, a Nice Guy NEEDS her. "She is my Life, my only source of happiness..." YEAH! What kind of a burden is that to place on her? That SHE has to be responsible for YOUR happiness? Get a life!

Another mistake Nice Guys make is to go after "hard luck" cases. They deliberately pick women with neuroses, problems, and personality disorders, because Nice Guys are "helpers." A Nice Guy thinks that by "helping" this woman, it will make him a better, more lovable person. He thinks it will give him a sense of accomplishment, and that she will appreciate and love him
more, for all his efforts and sacrifice. He is usually disappointed by the results.

This ultimately boils down to the fact that Nice Guys don't like themselves. Is it any wonder women don't like them? In order to truly love someone else, you must first love yourself. Too often Nice Guys mistake obsession for "love."

Get this Guys: INSECURITY ISN'T SEXY. IT'S A TURNOFF.

You don't have to be an ego-inflated, arrogant jerk. You just have to LIKE yourself. You have to know what you want out of life, and go after it. Only then will you be attractive to the kind of woman with whom a long-term relationship is possible.
 

mchammer187

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i think you hit the nail right on the head

did u make that up or is it a quote from somwhere?
 

eakers

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i am a girl.
i want a nice guy.

but it seems like all the nice guys lust after crazy girls that screw with their heads.
 

Orsorum

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Originally posted by: eakers
i am a girl.
i want a nice guy.

but it seems like all the nice guys lust after crazy girls that screw with their heads.

Not all. Just have to be patient.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: eakers
i am a girl.
i want a nice guy.

but it seems like all the nice guys lust after crazy girls that screw with their heads.

bwhaha :D


anyways i don't have to really worry.... i'm an arrogant ego-inflated jerk by nature. ok so maybe i do have to worry.... well at least i don't have to worry about these sorts of things.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: Zakath15
Originally posted by: eakers
i am a girl.
i want a nice guy.

but it seems like all the nice guys lust after crazy girls that screw with their heads.

Not all. Just have to be patient.

yea, zakath will eventually make his way to canada ;)
 

mchammer187

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Originally posted by: eakers
i am a girl.
i want a nice guy.

but it seems like all the nice guys lust after crazy girls that screw with their heads.

nobody wants a nice guy

its the truth

i think the worse thing about nice guys is how they complain about it soo much
nice guys finish last blah blah blah

grow some balls
take a chance
don't be a pushover
 

agnitrate

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It's a repost but always a prevalent subject here on ATOT :)

I admit, I've been taken advantage of and am guilty for showing many of the above reasons. I think most of them are valid points but some are just what all guys do (there's no one else like her sentiment, even if it's only a phase in the relationship).

I'd like to add: even if you have been known to play the 'nice guy' in the above form, it's never too late to break free.

You just need some self-confidence and viola! Most of your previous 'nice guy' problems will just fade from then on out...

-silver
 

Goosemaster

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Nice story...

What the hell a "nice guy" is I will never know but...
I think I might be an amicable guy, but am conident...secure as hell too...just sleepy all the time:D


My only weakness is sleep....without it I tend to be a little lathargic....only noticable with difficult calculus problems and when asked "what I want for lunch"


EDIT: there is nothing wrong with being "nice" . ...most fools however are pushovers....


Even I allow it sometimes....but to a certain extent...coworkers get away with somethings because they are so inane that I don't care....


But I WILL "step up" when necessary...


that is the "nice guy" weakness that we all have to overcome....obviously I am speaking to all the ball-toting individuals....not de ladies...
 

SaintGRW

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Originally posted by: agnitrate
It's a repost but always a prevalent subject here on ATOT :)

I admit, I've been taken advantage of and am guilty for showing many of the above reasons. I think most of them are valid points but some are just what all guys do (there's no one else like her sentiment, even if it's only a phase in the relationship).

I'd like to add: even if you have been known to play the 'nice guy' in the above form, it's never too late to break free.

You just need some self-confidence and viola! Most of your previous 'nice guy' problems will just fade from then on out...

-silver


other thread
 

eakers

Lifer
Aug 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: eakers
i am a girl.
i want a nice guy.

but it seems like all the nice guys lust after crazy girls that screw with their heads.

bwhaha :D


anyways i don't have to really worry.... i'm an arrogant ego-inflated jerk by nature. ok so maybe i do have to worry.... well at least i don't have to worry about these sorts of things.
ego inflated jerk?
i suddenly have the urge to give you my number and then bitch to my friends about how you never call when you say you will...



 

Orsorum

Lifer
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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Zakath15
Originally posted by: eakers
i am a girl.
i want a nice guy.

but it seems like all the nice guys lust after crazy girls that screw with their heads.

Not all. Just have to be patient.

yea, zakath will eventually make his way to canada ;)

Hey, it's only a three hour drive... then on up for another twenty-one hours o' lovin'.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: eakers
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: eakers
i am a girl.
i want a nice guy.

but it seems like all the nice guys lust after crazy girls that screw with their heads.

bwhaha :D


anyways i don't have to really worry.... i'm an arrogant ego-inflated jerk by nature. ok so maybe i do have to worry.... well at least i don't have to worry about these sorts of things.
ego inflated jerk?
i suddenly have the urge to give you my number and then bitch to my friends about how you never call when you say you will...

*turns around and rips number in two*

;)
 

bmacd

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Originally posted by: eakers
i am a girl.
i want a nice guy.

but it seems like all the nice guys lust after crazy girls that screw with their heads.

words of wisdom.

-=bmacd=-
 

Orsorum

Lifer
Dec 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: bmacd
Originally posted by: eakers
i am a girl.
i want a nice guy.

but it seems like all the nice guys lust after crazy girls that screw with their heads.

words of wisdom.

-=bmacd=-

Lust after a crazy girl that screws with my head?
 

deerslayer

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Originally posted by: eakers
i am a girl.
i want a nice guy.

but it seems like all the nice guys lust after crazy girls that screw with their heads.

You mean they don't all do that ? ;):p
 

eakers

Lifer
Aug 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: eakers
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: eakers
i am a girl.
i want a nice guy.

but it seems like all the nice guys lust after crazy girls that screw with their heads.

bwhaha :D


anyways i don't have to really worry.... i'm an arrogant ego-inflated jerk by nature. ok so maybe i do have to worry.... well at least i don't have to worry about these sorts of things.
ego inflated jerk?
i suddenly have the urge to give you my number and then bitch to my friends about how you never call when you say you will...

*turns around and rips number in two*

;)

*plots revenge.
 

ragazzo

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I'm a nice guy and I do nice things because I want to do it, not because I think people want me to do it. It makes me feel good, but I can also be an jerk if you push my buttons heh