NHTSA may add backup camera requirement

AstroManLuca

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http://money.cnn.com/2010/12/03/autos/backup_cameras_nhtsa/index.htm

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration proposed a new auto safety regulation Friday that would, essentially, require rearview back-up cameras in all new cars, pickups and SUVs by 2014.

Based on the proposal, drivers must be able to see directly behind the vehicle whenever the vehicle is shifted into reverse. The rule would be phased in over the next four years, starting with 10% of new cars sold expected to comply with the mandate by Sept. 2012; 40% by Sept. 2013 and 100% by Sept. 2014.

The rule was demanded by legislation passed in 2007, called Cameron Gulbransen Kids Transportation Safety Act. The act was named after a 2-year-old boy who was killed, when his father accidentally backed over him in the family's driveway.

"There is no more tragic accident than for a parent or caregiver to back out of a garage or driveway, and kill or injure an undetected child playing behind the vehicle," said Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood in a statement. "The changes we are proposing today will help drivers see into those blind zones directly behind vehicles, to make sure it is safe to back up."

Rear-view cameras are a common feature on new luxury vehicles, especially SUVs. They are available as options on many other vehicles as well, usually as part of an option package including other features -- such as navigation.

Benefits vs. Costs: According to NHTSA, this "blind spot" regulation could save 95 to 112 lives per year, and prevent 7,000 to 8,000 or more injuries.

The agency estimates that the addition of rear-view camera equipment would cost between $159 to $203 per car, or $88 to $158 on vehicles already equipped with some sort of display screen -- like one used for navigation.

NHTSA says the total approximate cost to equip their estimate of 16.6 million vehicles sold in 2014, would be between $1.9 billion and $2.7 billion.

As a cost-friendly alternative, the agency could require that some vehicles be equipped with an audible warning device that would sound if it detected an object approaching. However, the agency said tests have shown devices like this to be less effective.

Within their proposal, NHTSA said that the additional costs of this regulation would be worthwhile, because so many of those killed are children.

Backover accidents cause an average 229 deaths and 18,000 injuries per year, according to NHTSA. The agency said that small children and the elderly are particularly vulnerable. Of those killed each year: 44% are under the age of 5, and 33% are over the age of 70.

"In some of these cases, parents are responsible for the deaths of their own children," the agency said in its report. "Avoiding that horrible outcome is a significant benefit."

NHTSA is allowing a 60-day period for public and industry comment on the proposed regulation.

This is just incredibly stupid. I can't wait for every single new car to be REQUIRED to have a huge screen in the dashboard. Didn't the NHTSA come out a month or so ago saying that manufacturers need to cut down on distractions?

If people would actually pay attention to what they were doing, most of the injuries and deaths from people backing into stuff could be prevented. Maybe it's time to enact stricter licensing laws or make it easier to lose your license if you drive distracted. Of course that will never happen.
 

jlee

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You've got to be kidding me.

Quick Google search shows 16 million vehicles sold in 2007. At $181 extra each (assuming base model w/o nav screen already installed).

$2,576,000,000.

Cost of $24,769,230.77 per life. Not to sound callous...but there has to be a more efficient way to save the children. That's ridiculous.
 
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exdeath

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In other news, 2020 Elise has a government mandated built in IMAX system and a curb weight of 6000 lbs. However it won't be released in US due to missing the mandatory 100 MPG mark by 80 MPG.
 

vshah

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You've got to be kidding me.

Quick Google search shows 16 million vehicles sold in 2007. At $181 extra each (assuming base model w/o nav screen already installed).

$2,576,000,000.

Cost of $24,769,230.77 per life. Not to sound callous...but there has to be a more efficient way to save the children. That's ridiculous.


imagine if we spent 2.5 billion on better driver training....
 

AstroManLuca

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old news is old.

You're right, I just noticed that. Someone on Facebook shared the link but I guess they were a bit slow on the uptake and I didn't bother to check the date.

A more recent update is they're holding off until the end of this year to reevaluate it:

http://news.consumerreports.org/cars/2012/02/car-backup-camera-rule-delayed-again-by-nhtsa.html

Another concern is that if every car has a backup camera, then at least some automakers could decide to continue moving in the wrong direction on visibility (which is already horrible on many recent cars).
 

twinrider1

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I have a backup mirror.

While I sympathize with those affected by such a tragedy, how often does this actually happen?
 

AstroManLuca

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Would backup sensors not suffice for this?

Well, the article does say:

As a cost-friendly alternative, the agency could require that some vehicles be equipped with an audible warning device that would sound if it detected an object approaching. However, the agency said tests have shown devices like this to be less effective.

But that would be annoying as hell. Just like your TPMS light coming on when you calibrate your TPMS sensors wrong.

I have a backup mirror.

While I sympathize with those affected by such a tragedy, how often does this actually happen?

According to the NHTSA, 229 deaths and 18,000 injuries per year. Seems high to me.
 

LTC8K6

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That new Infiniti not only detects the children back there, it stops the car too.
 

LTC8K6

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IIRC, the results get skewed because families with kids are more likely to own a Minivan or SUV.
 

sdifox

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far cheaper to have kids implanted with emitters. If kid is within x meters of the car but not in the car, beep like hell.
 
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That new Infiniti not only detects the children back there, it stops the car too.

Can it detect the difference between a child/rapist/armed robber?

"There is no more tragic accident than for a parent or caregiver to back out of a garage or driveway, and kill or injure an undetected child playing behind the vehicle," said Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood in a statement. "The changes we are proposing today will help drivers see into those blind zones directly behind vehicles, to make sure it is safe to back up."

Bitch please.
 

natto fire

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I am wondering how many of these deaths are simply from soccer moms not paying attention while operating a huge vehicle. Also wonder how drivers many were "just sending a quick text" before/while backing out of the driveway.

If cars had to be designed for every contingency it's moron owner would put it through, I would guess even a "cheap" car would be well into six figures, even excluding amortized R&D costs.
 

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If a person is not checking surroundings using mirrors and self awareness, they will either not pay attention to the monitor or not process information on it. They see what they expect to see. Unless you have sensors that lock the vehicle when in reverse, it will waste money on as a good fuzzy then what about the kids that run from the yardin front of the vehicle while vehicle waiting for garage to open.
 

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I can't understand how it is that anyone with children or with kids (or pets) nearby doesn't look around first and know where they are before backing up any vehicle.
 
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arg I despisethe aesthetic look of in-car LCDs. Cheap cars will include ones with crummy colors and horrendous response times which will be slower than molasses in winter. :(