NHL to reject union proposal outright

[mpitts]

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[mpitts]

The NHL will present its counter-proposal to the NHLPA at a 1 p.m. ET meeting Tuesday in Toronto.

I'm not holding my breath. It looks like the NHL and it's owners are going to hold out for a salary cap. I don't blame them.

 

[silverpig]

Well from what I gathered from the last proposal by the PA it had a 24% wage decrease for all current contracts... sure that looks impressive, but there's nothing stopping them from signing $12 million deals after these ones expire... and it does nothing for the free agents.

I don't agree with a full hard cap, but I'd favour a HEAVY luxury tax over say $42 mil.

 

[Mayfriday0529]

this sucks

 

[DaFinn]

Hello,

How is hockey across the pond? Everything is just fine here in Europe, thank you! Have a nice rest of the season!

Bye!


😉

 

[Falloutboy]

man you would think they owuld of learned from baseball and how long it took the leuge to recover after thier strike

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: DaFinn
Hello,

How is hockey across the pond? Everything is just fine here in Europe, thank you! Have a nice rest of the season!

Bye!


😉

We still have WHL, OHL, QMJHL, and AHL 🙂

My local junior team is pulling some great crowds.

I figure the world junior hockey championships around xmas time will get a lot of people here back into it.

 

[DaFinn]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: DaFinn
Hello,

How is hockey across the pond? Everything is just fine here in Europe, thank you! Have a nice rest of the season!

Bye!


😉

We still have WHL, OHL, QMJHL, and AHL 🙂

My local junior team is pulling some great crowds.

I figure the world junior hockey championships around xmas time will get a lot of people here back into it.

Yup, looking forward to junior championships too!

 

Originally posted by: Falloutboy
man you would think they owuld of learned from baseball and how long it took the leuge to recover after thier strike

Seeing as how baseball is about 5 times as profitable as hockey, your statement really holds little water.

NHLPA is a joke.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: silverpig
Well from what I gathered from the last proposal by the PA it had a 24% wage decrease for all current contracts... sure that looks impressive, but there's nothing stopping them from signing $12 million deals after these ones expire... and it does nothing for the free agents.

I don't agree with a full hard cap, but I'd favour a HEAVY luxury tax over say $42 mil.

Yea there is, the owners NOT offering it.

Players can't FORCE someone to pay them anything, it has to be offered in a contract. The owners offer XYZ amount. If they are not maing money, stop offering so much.

If you ran a business and someone asked for $50 a hour to get carts, you tell them to go Funk themselves. BUT if you pay them that amount, don't complain if you can;t make a good profit.

 

[EMPshockwave82]

NHL will probably never fully recover from this lockout

they will have to cut amount of games by 1/5 immediately once a seasons starts just so they can fill seats they have. there were too many games in the NHL season anyways. i LOVE hockey and i've been playing it since i was 8 years old but these guys really didnt think ahead when they did this

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: silverpig
Well from what I gathered from the last proposal by the PA it had a 24% wage decrease for all current contracts... sure that looks impressive, but there's nothing stopping them from signing $12 million deals after these ones expire... and it does nothing for the free agents.

I don't agree with a full hard cap, but I'd favour a HEAVY luxury tax over say $42 mil.

Yea there is, the owners NOT offering it.

Players can't FORCE someone to pay them anything, it has to be offered in a contract. The owners offer XYZ amount. If they are not maing money, stop offering so much.

If you ran a business and someone asked for $50 a hour to get carts, you tell them to go Funk themselves. BUT if you pay them that amount, don't complain if you can;t make a good profit.

That's what I've been wondering too...

But if you're the owner of the NYR and Sakic is out there and the highest anyone will go for him is $2 mil, are you really not going to offer him more?

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82
NHL will probably never fully recover from this lockout

they will have to cut amount of games by 1/5 immediately once a seasons starts just so they can fill seats they have. there were too many games in the NHL season anyways. i LOVE hockey and i've been playing it since i was 8 years old but these guys really didnt think ahead when they did this

I like the number of games, just not the number of teams.

Make the game affordable to cities like Winnipeg. Bring back the Jets and the Nordiques. Get the NHL out of places where it isn't doing well and put it back into places where the people love hockey.

I'd love to see Seattle get a team. Every Canucks, Leafs, Habs, and prolly Sens game would be sold out guaranteed.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: silverpig
Well from what I gathered from the last proposal by the PA it had a 24% wage decrease for all current contracts... sure that looks impressive, but there's nothing stopping them from signing $12 million deals after these ones expire... and it does nothing for the free agents.

I don't agree with a full hard cap, but I'd favour a HEAVY luxury tax over say $42 mil.

Yea there is, the owners NOT offering it.

Players can't FORCE someone to pay them anything, it has to be offered in a contract. The owners offer XYZ amount. If they are not maing money, stop offering so much.

If you ran a business and someone asked for $50 a hour to get carts, you tell them to go Funk themselves. BUT if you pay them that amount, don't complain if you can;t make a good profit.

That's what I've been wondering too...

But if you're the owner of the NYR and Sakic is out there and the highest anyone will go for him is $2 mil, are you really not going to offer him more?

Thats the point. Its a free market, and it SHOULD pay what it can afford and what it is worth, but not more.

I say let some TEAMS, not the whole league, go under. After a couple teams go away, others will learn how to spend better. Baseball should do the same. Do a profit sharing like baseball has to make the smaller teams have a better chance, and bamm you got it.

 

[Squisher]

At one time I sided with the owners until that independent auditor said they lost $96 mil not $296 mil last year.

Now I'm not sure.

The owners were offering about a 24% decrease with a hard cap.

What I think should happen is that they should come to an agreement involving a hard cap based on a formula that would provide for a predetermined revenue percentage by the owners.

But, to determine the actual pay decrease by the players, an independent auditor should be allowed to come in and review every aspect of the owners books.

The results of this audit would be like binding arbitration.