nForce supports AGP8X

[Fozzie]

nVidia webpage

Why not?

 

[Remedy]

LMAO, show me a card that supports 8x and then show me the benefits of migrating from 4x to 8x.

 

[snow]

B Please. Looks like the boys over at nvidia are starting to believe their own hype.

 

[ndee]

Nvidia_marketing()
{
If(4 < 8)
{
printf(&quot;This product MUST be faster!&quot;
}
else
{
printf(&quot;You don't need 8x AGP!&quot;
}
}

 

[DARRIN]

8X might be for the Geforce4.

 

[majewski9]

How much will the Nforce cost? I mean with all of the new improvements
and intergrated Geforce2 not to mention 8x AGP the price tag on a motherboard with Nforce will be staggering!

 

[nam ng]

Using a normal AGP vid card it may act like any AGP slot in a normal motherboard, putting in a &quot;crossbar&quot; enhanced vid card, the AGP slot may not be just as any other AGP slot.

 

[DeeK]

<< LMAO, show me a card that supports 8x and then show me the benefits of migrating from 4x to 8x. >>


Heck, try and show any benefit of 4x over 2x.

 

[Remedy]

LMAO show me the benefit of of having an AGP slot at all, just gimmie a V5 PCI and call it a year

 

[theplanb]

I would rather prefer if it has built in nic, modem, dvd hw, firewire.

 

[MasterHoss]

Firewire would be a very nice addition to mobos. Apparently, USB is already on it's way out since it's caused unexpected bandwidth hogging.

DVD hardware decoding would be very nice (they should've built that onto the board instead of the integrated GeForce2).

Does anyone see a pattern? nVidia is almost taking over on 3dfx's principals of the more be better. 3dfx with adding 10000000processors on the same card to produce a &quot;faster card&quot; and nVidia pumping up the AGP to 8X, 16, 32,...,infiniteX

 

[MGMorden]

I really would like to see Firewire, USB 2.0, and a NIC integrated (my radeon does DVD fine). The onboard video and sound isn't of any interest to me.

 

[dowxp]

nics are a must to be integrated.

 

[nightowl]

The sound on integrated in the nForce will not be your average intergrated sound. It will support Dolby Digital encoding/decoding on board. Some may ask why have the DD encoding? It will allow DD to be mixed in real time for games to create an even more immersive gaming experience. (It takes care of calculating where all of the sounds should come from in perspective to where the character is on the screen leaving the CPU to do other things.)

 

[CrazyHelloDeli]

Im still trying to see the difference 4x has over 2x

 

[dowxp]

<< Im still trying to see the difference 4x has over 2x >>




not much at all

 

[CrazyHelloDeli]

yeah thats what im saying

 

[wolfsblood]

and we will benifit from 8x agp how?....

 

[dowxp]

<< and we will benifit from 8x agp how?.... >>




8>4 thats all that matters. 1.8ghz intel > 1.4 ghz amd. enough said. =)

 

[BenSkywalker]

Alright, let's move back to 386 chips because nothing available when the 486 came out needed it, right everyone?

Realisticly we have yet to see any games that come close to pushing the hard T&amp;L units of current vid cards. Upcoming titles(U2 and Doom3 come to mind) will certainly benefit from the added bandwith AGP 8X will offer.

Ask any PC game developer what the biggest bottleneck on current systems is, they will tell you the AGP bus. It is wide enough to handle the extrodinarily low poly counts in most games now, but even the most complex game today(Giants) rings an at roughly 30K polys per scene/frame, Unreal2 is looking to average 250K polys per scene/frame. Eight times the bandwith needed in a very short time span.

Remedy-

&quot;LMAO show me the benefit of of having an AGP slot at all, just gimmie a V5 PCI and call it a year&quot;

Try Giants The V5 will mask some of the shortcomings because it is so incredibly slow anyway not to mention it only utilizes AGP1X, but it still will take a performance hit moving to a PCI slot from AGP(bandwith is still halved). In a few weeks, throw MaxPayne at a PCI card and see what happens

 

[Snoop]

Ben, myself and i am sure many others would be interested in your opionion on the Nforce chipset. How much difference do you think the hyper-transport make with the palomino vs T-Bird? Will the Dual Channel DDR make a difference?

 

[BenSkywalker]

Snoop-

Don't want to take Fozzie's thread off topic, I have plenty to say, maybe if I have a few minutes I'll post something over in the HT forum.

 

[Snoop]

NICE
BTW, Im glad to see that the Gamebasement is getting updated again, always been a cool site

 

[jeffrey]

INTEL DEVELOPER FORUM ? SAN JOSE, CA, August 24, 2000 ? NVIDIA Corporation (Nasdaq: NVDA) announced today will be the first 3D graphics company ready to deliver a product to benefit from Intel's new AGP 8X interface, the next generation of the parallel AGP interface. Like AGP 4X it is a 32 bit wide bus, but the new specification allows a doubling in speed to 533MHz. Intel is releasing the rev 0.9 specifications in August 2000. NVIDIA and Intel have been engaged to gather feedback and validate the implementation in the AGP 8X specification.

&quot;We are pleased to have worked with Intel to develop the AGP 8X specification and intend to fully support it in our future generation GPUs,&quot; stated Dan Vivoli, senior vice president of marketing at NVIDIA. &quot;By providing advanced system bandwidth to balance graphics performance, our AGP8x initiative represents a major step forward in the graphics industry.&quot;

&quot;Intel has worked closely with NVIDIA to deliver high-performance 3D graphics capabilities to the desktop PC market segment,&quot; stated David Fair, Intel Visualization Technologies Intiative manager. &quot;By combining our two roadmaps, we hope to move consumers, generation-by-generation, closer to Pixar level graphics on the desktop PC.&quot;

Original PR

 

[sMashPiranha]

V5 PCI runs at AGP 1x?? I believe AGP 1x has twice the bandwidth of PCI.

EDIT: Bah ignore that last comment, my browser is screwed and I didn't see the whole sentence.