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nforce boards (abit, msi, gigabyte, asus)

flexy

Diamond Member

hi,

why does each of them have some downside ?

I was just browsing the net...

The gigabyte is supposed to have an realtek 8139 LAN onboard also (as does the Asus): WHY ? Why dont they use the nforce onboard LAN ?
The realtek LAN is supposed to use 25% CPU

The Abit board is mATX...and it has 3 (!) PCI slots...i dont know if that is enough !!!!!!! (In case the onboard sound, LAN, whatever sucks....)...i also dont know if an mATX fits in my case (enlight 7237)...anyone knows ?

The MSI board's bios obviously sucks..... i have to wait for 'real life' boards tested actually...because i know that the early reviews of the MSI tested it with an AMI bios (!)..and i know that they have an Award Bios on MSI's download site now...so the question is if maybe the MSI bios has improved in the meantime....

Asking for advice which nforce board to get......

 
The word is that the Nforce chipset is unstable as hell, and the Nforce partners(Abit, Asus..etc.) are having a hard time getting these things running decent, chances are that this generation of the Nforce is kinda "doomed" from what i've read.
 
I'd be very surprised if the onboard sound on the nForce (the one that does DD encoding) will suck. But you're right, you never know.

Just wait and see.
 
The word is that the Nforce chipset is unstable as hell, and the Nforce partners(Abit, Asus..etc.) are having a hard time getting these things running decent, chances are that this generation of the Nforce is kinda "doomed" from what i've read.

Where did you read this? Anand stated in his latest article here that the MSI nForce board was having BIOS issues.

Anyway, Anand said that the reference nForce he tested was stable, so it's all good.
 
Comdex reports and other sources say the reason for the release delay of these boards is stability issues. I'm not making it up, I was hoping to get 1 of these boards.

 

never heard of stability issues in any review (ok..the reviews i read all were either about the MSI or the nforce reference)...but from what i know right now i MIGHT maybe go with the MSI.....in this case it doesnt have to interest me if the Asus whatever board is not stable....never read anything the like about the MSI....


The much more important point is...that the Gigabyte AND the asus both are supposed to have realtek 8139 LAN....(btw. i do NOT have anything against realtek)....is it true that those use 25% CPU ?

And the mATX boards...i mean 3 pci slots are not really a lot....as i turn it...the MSI looks good ??????


 


<< The realtek LAN is supposed to use 25% CPU

<<

That 25% figure is bogus as hell. I have a realtek network card in two of my computers and at most it uses around 5-8% when downloading using my DSL connection and about 8-10% when transfering files across my network.
 
Is this some kind of Taiwanese conspiracy to stop an American company from taking over the AMD chipset market? I can't believe these lame
attempts at an Nforce mobo. The Asus boards are the lamest of all. The only decent Nforce so far is the Nvidia reference board. Why can't
they just copy it and then work on their revisions? Actually MSI had a version that was close to the reference design (MS-6367) but it's not
for sale. They just don't get it.
 
It wouldn't suprise me if VIA were pulling strings in taiwan in an effort to hold-up the nforce.

What would be nice is if nvidia could get visiontek to manufacture an nforce motherboard (they already oem manufacture lots of video cards and memory sticks). They are an american manufacturer. That would cut taiwan almost totally out of the picture (chipset still fabbed by TSMC though).

Greg
 


<< That 25% figure is bogus as hell. I have a realtek network card in two of my computers and at most it uses around 5-8% when downloading using my DSL connection and about 8-10% when transfering files across my network. >>


You can't compare stand-alone NIC's to on-board. On-board stuff, generally speaking, use up more clock cycles.
 


<< It wouldn't suprise me if VIA were pulling strings in taiwan in an effort to hold-up the nforce. >>




<< What would be nice is if nvidia could get visiontek to manufacture an nforce motherboard (they already oem manufacture lots of video cards and memory sticks). They are an american manufacturer. That would cut taiwan almost totally out of the picture >>



Sounds like a great idea. I'd buy a Visiontek nforce board, no doubt.
 


<< You can't compare stand-alone NIC's to on-board. On-board stuff, generally speaking, use up more clock cycles. >>



Well, according to the reviews that tested this, the onboard NIC (not the realtek one, but the one in the MCP) uses a lot less CPU cycles (2-3%) than the external. There is no reason that onboard stuff should use more CPU cycles than an external card
 
"Why can't
they just copy it and then work on their revisions? Actually MSI had a version that was close to the reference design (MS-6367) but it's not
for sale. They just don't get it. "

The first thing the taiwan motherboard makers do is try to redesign the reference board to make it cheaper.
End of story....

Mac
 
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