nForce bench... the dream comes true

[TravisBickle]

http://www.electic.com/Reviews/nvidia_nforce/index12.shtml

 

[prontospyder]

impressive!

 

[Helznicht]

I have a possibly dumb question,

If nforce was developed from the research they did on the X-box, and, X-box has an Intel CPU, why are they not coming out with a Intel Mboard?

 

[Dark4ng3l]

DDr is useless with a p3 and I think they would have to make some radical changes for the p4 to use it.

 

[snow]

Intel wouldn't give nvidia a bus license. The reason the xbox came to be is that microsoft has such a license.

 

[Aquaman]

They are not making an Intel version of nFOrce because they do not have a license to make one. The only reason they could make X-box is because MS had the Intel license because they used the P3 in the X-box.

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[splice]

Simple, nVidia has no Intel bus licence.

 

[Helznicht]

Thanks Guys !!!!

 

[splice]

What impressed me is the integerated MX being 30% faster then the add-in MX. Are we talking GF2GTS performance here or what for an integerated chipset?

 

[NFS4]

Wait a second, this shiznit is OLD!!

Look familiar:

http://www.inqst.com/articles/nforce/0605main.htm

 

[ST4RCUTTER]

What impressed me is the integerated MX being 30% faster then the add-in MX

That's compared to an MX200 AGP, which is a very low grade MX card. I'm running with an MX 400, and I can tell the performance is only "acceptable".

I still can't wait to get my hands on this chipset/mobo!

 

[ElFenix]

<< A next generation gaming console with unprecedented graphics processing capacity, the DirectX 8 powered system has pixel pushing muscle that dwarfs its nearest competitor?s >>


the gamecube comes out half a week earlier and has similar graphics power. the author is simply wrong on this count.



<< to a still powerful GeForce2 level engine for nForce. >>


considering my geforce 256 runs circles around the mx200 as well i don't think its going to be anywhere near GF2 levels.

 

[ST4RCUTTER]

I smell a fish here...

:|

 

[Rado]

nForce - A close first look
(Date: June 5, 2001)

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---- Taken from their reviews section listing date under Inqst Articles Featured on Electic.

This is an old article that has been published on Electic around June 5th TravisBickle.

 

[Fozzie]

<< the gamecube comes out half a week earlier and has similar graphics power. the author is simply wrong on this count. >>



The Gamecube date is when it is shipping to stores, the Xbox date is when it will be available IN stores. They will both be out at about the exact same time. Who cares about a few days anyway? Neither will be that easy to get if you don't have a pre-order.

BTW:

The NV2A in the Xbox has texel (textured pixel) rate of 2000 megatexels per second/1000Megapixels per second.

The Flipper has fillrate of 648 megatexels/megapixels(one texture unit per pipeline).

At 8 texture layers per poly the Xbox has a fillrate of 250Mpix/sec, Gamecube is only 81Mpix/sec.

This is right from Nintendo's official GameCube Hardware Overview info:

1 vertex color + 1 light + 1 texture: 20M polygons/sec
no vertex color + 1 texture: 26.4M polygons/sec
1 vertex color + no texture (gouraud shading): 32M polygons/sec

It has a raw single color vertex rate of 40M/poly.

This is the max theoretical speed BEFORE the final Flipper speed was reduced to 162MHz. The Flipper is about as fast as a Geforce Ultra for T&amp;L speed at best. It's raw poly rate is about 32M polys/s after the speed drop.

NV2A is capable of 125Million gouraud shaded dual textured polys per second. Not to mention the Flipper has a static T&amp;L unit like the Geforce/Radeon.

Anyway.. Not exactly on topic, but I figured since its an old article who cares?

 

[TravisBickle]

MSI MS-6373

 

[lankor]

Best website, lots of helpful ppl
Good threads and links
It seems that MSI have jumped into the ATX line of nforce and not ASUS alone.
Excited builders/forumers have more choices now...
Cheers guyz

 

[ElFenix]

when did all that change? everything i'd heard had gamecube and xbox at pretty much the same graphics levels, with most differences coming between MS's theortetical numbers vs nintendo's in-game numbers.

and i hate preordering cuz they started tying other products to it, mostly crap you don't need like some crappy interact battery pack or low-quality 3rd party controller.


and i still think the gf2mx is the biggest piece of wool pulled over gamers' eyes in a long time. nvidia marketing... &quot;hey guys, i have an idea... since the gf2 is out why don't we release a part just as fast as the gf 256 sdr and call it a gf2 so that people think they're getting a good card for less $$ even though we'll charge them the same as we did for high end cards last year!&quot;

dasmned CNR slot on that MSI.

and dasmed IGN requiring registration to read dasmed near anything.

 

[Degenerate]

nice. But the 2 site copy each other?

 

[Akaz1976]

<< Simple, nVidia has no Intel bus licence. >>



ummmmm...........how did via get around this? i remember reading that intel sued via when they first came out with a chipset for intel CPU!

Akaz

 

[Adul]

They ahve a license now has part of the settlement.

 

[Maverick]

does the Nforce also include an integrated NIC? I thought it did but I don't see mention of it on the MSI board description.

 

[SpideyCU]

&quot;The nForce chipset is comprised of two platform processors:&quot;

Ouch ouch ouch, the grammar-checker in my head just started blaring...

&quot;A complete suite of networking and communications technologies, including 10/100Base-T Ethernet and home phone-line networking (HomePNA 2.0).&quot;

It will have an integrated NIC I believe, based on that statement.

 

[theplanb]

What about integrated data/fax/voice modem?
I can see it's got a cnr slot. Will I see a modem integrated in it?

 

[Maverick]

a NIC and a homePNA card too? Wow
PNA cards run like 60-70 bucks don't they?