NForce 5 for Intel.

[caz67]

Hi All

Can you guys confirm for me an article i read in an Australian PC mag. It was regarding an Nforce5 chipset for Intel based motherboards??

Is this still current?? Will this ever happen in the future?

Please correct me if im wrong on this.

I read it a while ago, and i was talking to a mate about it last night.

thanks

 

[MDE]

nForce4 isn't even out, I wouldn't hold my breath for an Intel chipset from Nvidia but it could happen if they get enough cash and incentive slung their way. Even then, why would Intel want another chipset competitor?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

No one is talking. There are indeed rumors it is being developed but thus far no good info has surfaced. I think it's inevitable, provided nV will pony up for the licensing cost.

 

[biostud]

I doubt it, unless they want to be sure that both AMD and Intel have mboards with dual PCIe x16

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: biostud666
I doubt it, unless they want to be sure that both AMD and Intel have mboards with dual PCIe x16

Why do you doubt it? ATi makes chipsets for both.

 

[biostud]

does ATi make chipsets for AMD? (not video cards)
I didn't knew that

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: biostud666
does ATi make chipsets for AMD? (not video cards)
I didn't knew that

ATI Update: Coming to an AMD desktop near you

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Budman

Originally posted by: biostud666
does ATi make chipsets for AMD? (not video cards)
I didn't knew that

ATI Update: Coming to an AMD desktop near you

Not to mention I'm using the ATi IGP320M mobile AMD chipset in my Compaq 900z I've had nearly 2yrs now They also made it for the desktop i.e. IGP320, and Sapphire and FIC made boards using it.

 

[Schadenfroh]

i read somewhere that they dont have to go thru intel to the a license to produce a chipset for the pentiums, i hear that they can get the license from IBM as long as they fab the chip at IBMs fab plants

 

[mikecel79]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
i read somewhere that they dont have to go thru intel to the a license to produce a chipset for the pentiums, i hear that they can get the license from IBM as long as they fab the chip at IBMs fab plants

Highly unlikely. Manufacturing and IP rights are totally different things.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Judging by the brouhaha with Via, I can't see how you could design an unlicensed chipset for their microprocessor without infringing on one or more of their patents?

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Judging by the brouhaha with Via, I can't see how you could design an unlicensed chipset for their microprocessor without infringing on one or more of their patents?

yeh, didnt Via make one without permission and basically said fvck them

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Judging by the brouhaha with Via, I can't see how you could design an unlicensed chipset for their microprocessor without infringing on one or more of their patents?

yeh, didnt Via make one without permission and basically said fvck them

I couldn't remember the details so I googled the synopsis
Text I suspect it cost Via far more than their cheesey chipset has generated in revenues

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Judging by the brouhaha with Via, I can't see how you could design an unlicensed chipset for their microprocessor without infringing on one or more of their patents?

yeh, didnt Via make one without permission and basically said fvck them

I couldn't remember the details so I googled the synopsis
Text I suspect it cost Via far more than their cheesey chipset has generated in revenues

Actually, I don't think it was a "cheesey" chipset at all; wasn't it the first DDR platform for the P4? I'm pretty sure that back in the day the P4 was purely RAMBUS and SDRAM. It actually would have been a good thing for intel to have such a chipset/platform, but the law is the law and VIA can't just do stuff like that. I think they had some kind of technicality which they thought allowed them to make the chipset. :roll:

 

[OverVolt]

I'm pretty sure i read somewhere that Intel wants to keep Nvidia from producing P4 Chipsets because their intergrated graphics would be better than Intel Extreme Graphics.

 

[stevty2889]

ATI already produces a P4 chipset with better integrated graphics, so I doubt they would use that as an excuse to keep nvidia from doing the same..

 

[geecee]

Originally posted by: SickBeast
Actually, I don't think it was a "cheesey" chipset at all; wasn't it the first DDR platform for the P4? I'm pretty sure that back in the day the P4 was purely RAMBUS and SDRAM. It actually would have been a good thing for intel to have such a chipset/platform, but the law is the law and VIA can't just do stuff like that. I think they had some kind of technicality which they thought allowed them to make the chipset. :roll:

I think Via acquired S3 and it (S3) had some cross-licensing agreements with Intel. Via then claimed that those agreements held for their production of a P4 chipset, and they wouldn't have to pay Intel any additional licensing fees. Obviously, Intel disagreed.

EDIT: grammatical clarification

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: stevty2889
ATI already produces a P4 chipset with better integrated graphics, so I doubt they would use that as an excuse to keep nvidia from doing the same..

Precisely.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Judging by the brouhaha with Via, I can't see how you could design an unlicensed chipset for their microprocessor without infringing on one or more of their patents?

yeh, didnt Via make one without permission and basically said fvck them

I couldn't remember the details so I googled the synopsis
Text I suspect it cost Via far more than their cheesey chipset has generated in revenues

Actually, I don't think it was a "cheesey" chipset at all; wasn't it the first DDR platform for the P4? I'm pretty sure that back in the day the P4 was purely RAMBUS and SDRAM. It actually would have been a good thing for intel to have such a chipset/platform, but the law is the law and VIA can't just do stuff like that. I think they had some kind of technicality which they thought allowed them to make the chipset. :roll:

Yeah, it was definitely a budget chipset. Wasn't very rich in features, and there were all sorts of quality complaints with it. (Not that I have any actual firsthand experience, though.)

I believe you are correct about it being the first DDR chipset for the P4... But Intel's offering wasn't far behind.