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Sometime next year im gonna upgrade to a Nforce 4. But in the meantime to keep me occupied has anyone found any rumors or interesting facts on the Nforce 4.
-Kevin
-Kevin
Nforce 4
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it should have pci-e 16x and 8x lanes.
something like 6 sata ports, raid of course
soundstorm two, which im guessing is better then soundstorm one. just look at soundstorm one specs and multiple it times two.
two gigabit lan ports.... um thats all i remember from reading around. of course nobodys gonna know for sure till its released.
something like 6 sata ports, raid of course
soundstorm two, which im guessing is better then soundstorm one. just look at soundstorm one specs and multiple it times two.
two gigabit lan ports.... um thats all i remember from reading around. of course nobodys gonna know for sure till its released.
soundstorm 2 I believe is just going to be a rumor. the guys over at AMD really hate having the reputaion they got from Soundstom 1, just unbeatable by comapre. Can you immagine what they woudl have to come up with to satisfy people?
"The chipset will be Socket 754/939 and 940 capable and will have multiprocessing capabilities. You will be able to use it as a single CPU platform. And you will also be able to use it as a two way, four way and up to a maximum of eight way as a multiprocessing platform.
This chipset will support a maximum of 32 PCI-E lanes says Theo, has suggested 1x16 X PCI-E slot, one 1 x 8X for SLI card and four times one lane for peripheral devices. This definitely confirms our previous claim that Nforce 4 will be a platform which will let you plug two Geforce 6 series PCI-E cards into a machine and end up with a much cheaper MP machine than those based on Intel's "Tumwater" chipset.
The chipset will support five PCI slots, two times Nvidia Gbit Ethernet and Nvidia RAID, similar in function to Intel's "Matrix Array", says Theo.
The Nforce 4, CK8-04 will support eight S-ATA drives and six P-ATA drives and for additional connectivity you will have no less then 10 USB 2.0 ports.
As for sound freaks, this chipset will feature SP-10, Soundstorm 2 audio that will be Dolby Digital 5.1 compliant and it will be able to do EX effects at 20 GFlops processing power. Soundstorm 2 supports 5.1, 6.1 and 7.1 speaker configurations. " - I got this from the Inquirer
"While NVIDIA?s mainboard partners are still about to deliver the nForce3 250 and nForce3 250Gb-based mainboards, the company is continuing to work on more powerful platform products. Sources familiar with the company?s plans told X-bit labs that NVIDIA?s PCI Express core-logic for AMD64 chips will sport boosted PCI Express specs as well as High-Definition audio.
Unofficial sources said that NVIDIA?s core-logic code-named CK8-04/Pro designed for AMD?s Socket 939 processors will sport 1000MHz HyperTransport bus, 4 Serial ATA-150 ports with RAID, 2 Parallel ATA-33/66/100/133 channels with RAID, Gigabit Ethernet, 10 USB 2.0 ports, 4 PCI slots, High-Definition 24-bit 96kHz 7.1 audio as well as something NVIDIA calls PCI Express x20.
PCI Express x20 may indicate availability of totally 20 PCI Express lanes supported by the CK8-04/Pro chip, e.g. one PCI Express x16 and four PCI Express x1 buses. However, keeping in mind that NVIDIA once boosted performance of AGP 8x on the GeForce FX and nForce3 chips to the so-called AGP 16x rate, it is possible to expect the company to do this once again by tweaking PCI Express for graphics lane in order to attain higher performance with its own graphics cards that presumably may sport the same capability. There are two pretty likely ways to accomplish this: to increase clock-speed of the PCI Express for graphics bus or use other methods of gaining bandwidth, e.g. not to use CRC lanes for error control, but use those additional lanes for data transfer.
PCI Express x16 slot for graphics functions at clock-speed in 2.50GHz range and is able to pump up to 4GB/s in every direction, giving duplex bandwidth of up to 8GB/s. In case NVIDIA gives its PCI Express x16 core-logic chips and graphics processors frequency headroom, combination of future graphics cards based on NVIDIA GeForce GPUs as well as mainboards based on nForce chipsets will yield a bit higher performance compared to competing combinations, if the assumptions are correct.
NVIDIA's CK8-04 is expected for Q3 or Q4 2004 release." - I got this from X-bit labs.
Nforce 4 looks pretty awesome, but some of these I know are just rumours. These two reports even contradict each other in some places.
This chipset will support a maximum of 32 PCI-E lanes says Theo, has suggested 1x16 X PCI-E slot, one 1 x 8X for SLI card and four times one lane for peripheral devices. This definitely confirms our previous claim that Nforce 4 will be a platform which will let you plug two Geforce 6 series PCI-E cards into a machine and end up with a much cheaper MP machine than those based on Intel's "Tumwater" chipset.
The chipset will support five PCI slots, two times Nvidia Gbit Ethernet and Nvidia RAID, similar in function to Intel's "Matrix Array", says Theo.
The Nforce 4, CK8-04 will support eight S-ATA drives and six P-ATA drives and for additional connectivity you will have no less then 10 USB 2.0 ports.
As for sound freaks, this chipset will feature SP-10, Soundstorm 2 audio that will be Dolby Digital 5.1 compliant and it will be able to do EX effects at 20 GFlops processing power. Soundstorm 2 supports 5.1, 6.1 and 7.1 speaker configurations. " - I got this from the Inquirer
"While NVIDIA?s mainboard partners are still about to deliver the nForce3 250 and nForce3 250Gb-based mainboards, the company is continuing to work on more powerful platform products. Sources familiar with the company?s plans told X-bit labs that NVIDIA?s PCI Express core-logic for AMD64 chips will sport boosted PCI Express specs as well as High-Definition audio.
Unofficial sources said that NVIDIA?s core-logic code-named CK8-04/Pro designed for AMD?s Socket 939 processors will sport 1000MHz HyperTransport bus, 4 Serial ATA-150 ports with RAID, 2 Parallel ATA-33/66/100/133 channels with RAID, Gigabit Ethernet, 10 USB 2.0 ports, 4 PCI slots, High-Definition 24-bit 96kHz 7.1 audio as well as something NVIDIA calls PCI Express x20.
PCI Express x20 may indicate availability of totally 20 PCI Express lanes supported by the CK8-04/Pro chip, e.g. one PCI Express x16 and four PCI Express x1 buses. However, keeping in mind that NVIDIA once boosted performance of AGP 8x on the GeForce FX and nForce3 chips to the so-called AGP 16x rate, it is possible to expect the company to do this once again by tweaking PCI Express for graphics lane in order to attain higher performance with its own graphics cards that presumably may sport the same capability. There are two pretty likely ways to accomplish this: to increase clock-speed of the PCI Express for graphics bus or use other methods of gaining bandwidth, e.g. not to use CRC lanes for error control, but use those additional lanes for data transfer.
PCI Express x16 slot for graphics functions at clock-speed in 2.50GHz range and is able to pump up to 4GB/s in every direction, giving duplex bandwidth of up to 8GB/s. In case NVIDIA gives its PCI Express x16 core-logic chips and graphics processors frequency headroom, combination of future graphics cards based on NVIDIA GeForce GPUs as well as mainboards based on nForce chipsets will yield a bit higher performance compared to competing combinations, if the assumptions are correct.
NVIDIA's CK8-04 is expected for Q3 or Q4 2004 release." - I got this from X-bit labs.
Nforce 4 looks pretty awesome, but some of these I know are just rumours. These two reports even contradict each other in some places.
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Excellent info!!!
Why cant Nvidia just increase the number of PCI Express lanes from 32 to somethin glike 48 that way they can still use 2x x16 slot and still have room for the others.
Also what is this about Nvidia implementing the equivelent of AGP 16x?
-Kevin
Why cant Nvidia just increase the number of PCI Express lanes from 32 to somethin glike 48 that way they can still use 2x x16 slot and still have room for the others.
Also what is this about Nvidia implementing the equivelent of AGP 16x?
-Kevin
With PCI-E it doesn't quite workt hat way. I have yet to fully understand it myself, though I am trying, but apparently it jus doesn't.
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why they dont put up to 48x lanes is because theres not that much bandwith for anything to use, let alone process it. thats something like 100gb/s which cpus arnt even gonna be able to handle.
no way is nvidia putting out a chipset that only supports one 16x lane and the rest 4x lanes.
maybe two 8x lanes. but they need to put something out that can actually run SLI 6800s which basically means one 16x lane and one 8x lane at the least. ideally SLI should have two 16x lanes and im gonna put my money on them wanting to get SLI out the door more then anything.
creative is in a sorry state of affairs and they need compition. not to mention how many fan boys have emailed nvidia asking for soundstorm back. either way they are gonna include some type of higher level apu. whatever it is its going to be no less powerful then soundstorm one.
they are probably going to go back to the more traditional northbridge southbridge design.
no way is nvidia putting out a chipset that only supports one 16x lane and the rest 4x lanes.
maybe two 8x lanes. but they need to put something out that can actually run SLI 6800s which basically means one 16x lane and one 8x lane at the least. ideally SLI should have two 16x lanes and im gonna put my money on them wanting to get SLI out the door more then anything.
creative is in a sorry state of affairs and they need compition. not to mention how many fan boys have emailed nvidia asking for soundstorm back. either way they are gonna include some type of higher level apu. whatever it is its going to be no less powerful then soundstorm one.
they are probably going to go back to the more traditional northbridge southbridge design.
Yep. The nForce4 will be used on single, double, and all the way up to 8way CPU systems.
Also I agree with Wahsapa that the nForce4 will probable be a 2 chip chipset since the nForce5 is supposed to be for Intel. So haveing 1 southbridge would help make that work for dual platforms.
The SoundStorm2 rumor has been debunked. It is, and will remain, a RUMOR and not a reality.
This according to the people at nforcershq.com in this thread:
http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=47085
They are still lobbying nVidia to bring back the APU.
Here is text I wrote summarizing in another thread:
This according to the people at nforcershq.com in this thread:
http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=47085
They are still lobbying nVidia to bring back the APU.
Here is text I wrote summarizing in another thread:
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