nforce 4 chipset

[stickybytes]

Nvidia has decided not to call their next chipset nforce 4, but for the sake of simplicity, ill just call it nforce 4

As more information about nforce 4 begins to trickle in, i have a couple of questions regarding this chipset.

1) Nforce 4 is a chipset that will be released on both sockets 754, and 939 correct?
2) Will Nforce 4 have soundstorm 2?
3) Will nforce 4 support the 90nm amd chips coming out soon?

4) Does buying a nforce 4 motherboard mean mandatory upgrades to ddr2 and pci-express? Or will there be nforce 4 mobos that will support ddr1 memory and agp video cards?

And that will be it for now.

 

[LordPhoenix]

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=16874

1) Yes
2) yes
3) Probably

 

[klah]

2)Soundstorm2 may not be true. There are past threads here about it.

4) Memory controller is in the cpu, so no ddr2. Probably no AGP unless it is kludged onto the pci bus.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Soundstorm 2 is verified, as well as everything else, though klah brings up a good point. AMD would have to upgrade their chips to support DDR2 as the memory controller is onboard. Not sure there maybe the 90nm processors have that... who knows?

-Kevin

 

[Snoop]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Soundstorm 2 is verified, as well as everything else, though klah brings up a good point. AMD would have to upgrade their chips to support DDR2 as the memory controller is onboard. Not sure there maybe the 90nm processors have that... who knows?

-Kevin

Anyone have some links that speculate on the SS2 feature set? If this is true, I can only pray nvidia will spin off an add-on card version would maybe force creative (and others in the sound card market) to start innovating features, fixing drivers, etc.

 

[MDE]

DDR2 has almost no benefit right now for Intel, and AMD's chips are nowhere near starved for memory bandwidth so I wouldn't even bother sweating no DDR2 from AMD.

 

[stickybytes]

Originally posted by: klah
2)Soundstorm2 may not be true. There are past threads here about it.

4) Memory controller is in the cpu, so no ddr2. Probably no AGP unless it is kludged onto the pci bus.

so basically the upgrade to ddr2 would be demanded by the cpu not the chipset. ok got it.

So upgrading to nforce 4 would most likely mean upgrading to a pci-express video card as well? What do you mean by unless the agp is attached to the pci bus? I take that as unlikely?

 

[Falloutboy]

Originally posted by: stickybytes

Originally posted by: klah
2)Soundstorm2 may not be true. There are past threads here about it.

4) Memory controller is in the cpu, so no ddr2. Probably no AGP unless it is kludged onto the pci bus.

so basically the upgrade to ddr2 would be demanded by the cpu not the chipset. ok got it.

So upgrading to nforce 4 would most likely mean upgrading to a pci-express video card as well? What do you mean by unless the agp is attached to the pci bus? I take that as unlikely?

meaning you could have an agp slot but it woulld run at PCI speeds, which would not be a good thing

 

[stickybytes]

Originally posted by: Falloutboy

Originally posted by: stickybytes

Originally posted by: klah
2)Soundstorm2 may not be true. There are past threads here about it.

4) Memory controller is in the cpu, so no ddr2. Probably no AGP unless it is kludged onto the pci bus.

so basically the upgrade to ddr2 would be demanded by the cpu not the chipset. ok got it.

So upgrading to nforce 4 would most likely mean upgrading to a pci-express video card as well? What do you mean by unless the agp is attached to the pci bus? I take that as unlikely?

meaning you could have an agp slot but it woulld run at PCI speeds, which would not be a good thing

ok i see what you mean now. theoritically speaking, how much slower does pci run compared to agp 8x?

 

[Yanagi]

About 16X slower.