Nforce 3 pro benchmarks w/ 244 opteron

[MikeMike]

here ya go!!!

still reading will comment later.

MIKE (searched but didnt search extensively lemme know if its a r

 

[nick1985]

me = impressed

 

[MikeMike]

um, me = ditto!!

what is the althon 64 supposed to be released at?? i forget 2.0ghz? or what?

that would put some competition back in it, but prescott comes out at 3.4 right away w/ better hyperthreading, and other enhancements.

MIKE

 

[Schadenfroh]

dam, a 1.85 running head on with a 3.2 ghz

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
what is the althon 64 supposed to be released at?? i forget 2.0ghz? or what?

that would put some competition back in it, but prescott comes out at 3.4 right away w/ better hyperthreading, and other enhancements.

The Athlon 64 is supposed to be 2.0 GHz and slower at its release. From those benchmarks, the top Athlon 64 will be right on par with the top P4.

With all the recent rumors it looks like the first Athlon 64s will actually be slightly modified Opterons (I have the feeling that AMD is resource and time limited at this point to meet their Sept date). Opteron will be at 2.0 GHz and the Athlon 64 will be at 2.0 GHz, Opteron will be 940 pins and the Athlon 64 will be 940 pins, etc. Thus I think this is very likely a good estimate of what we will see then. Only then after the launch will the Athlon 64 become more differentiated from the Opteron.

 

[Pariah]

Nothing too exciting. Gone are the days of new generations that beat the incumbents into submission. Who cares if it can somtimes beat/sometimes loses to a CPU 1.5GHz faster? The fact is, it is running 1.5GHz slower and isn't going to make that clock speed up next week. Wake me up when the Opteron/Athlon 64 "Northwood" shows up.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: Pariah
Nothing too exciting. Gone are the days of new generations that beat the incumbents into submission.

That is what I've been arguing about for well over a year. The Athlon 64 will be basically tied with the P4 and the Athlon XP - yet cost will likely be higher for the Athlon 64. So for that reason I'm not excited about its launch. But a year later then the Athlon 64 may be quite exciting.

 

[SexyK]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: Pariah
Nothing too exciting. Gone are the days of new generations that beat the incumbents into submission.

That is what I've been arguing about for well over a year. The Athlon 64 will be basically tied with the P4 and the Athlon XP - yet cost will likely be higher for the Athlon 64. So for that reason I'm not excited about its launch. But a year later then the Athlon 64 may be quite exciting.

It might have been exciting if it came out a year ago like it was supposed to. I just can't get excited about the Athlon64 anymore. Maybe they'll prove me wrong though.

 

[Tab]

Yummy! I want my Athlon 64! I'll start saving!

 

[LostHiWay]

Looks good. Only thing I don't like is the layout of the Asus board. That layout really really sucks. I hope all nForce 3 boards aren't layed out this way.

 

[Dug]

I am actually impressed.

If the opteron/amd64 can scale well, then it should be very interesting.

Seeing as the 2Ghz matches Intel's 3.2Ghz is a great showing.

What will be really interesting is to see how it will perform on a 64bit Windows platform.

 

[silent tone]

I'm not too impressed, prescott will handle the Athlon64 handily. Currently I can only see buying an opteron over a xeon system in 2+ configs, or if you need 64bit support.

 

[mchammer187]

sigh

not impressed

lets bring on prescott

and let's hope the prescotts o/c like the 1.6A's 1.5 years ago

 

[MikeMike]

hehe, i luv it how everyone thinks the athlon 64 will perform exactly like the opteron, when it comes out. because the mobo will be different, different enhancements, different lots of things!!!!!

MIKE

 

[Whitedog]

I would be impressed if the new Chips coming out made the current chips look like P3's.... The numbers don't even surpass any of the scores the current chips are making, not by much if at all..

So, my thoughts are...

*yawn*

 

[sandorski]

Whaoh, how about some perspective. New generations overtaking previous generations is the exception, not the norm. The Athlon owned K6-2/3, the Athlon 64 will likely own(to a lesser extent) the Athlon, the Pentium didn't own the 486 for some time, the Pentium 2 didn't own the Pentium, P3 didn't own P2, and P4 didn't own the P3.

Athlon 64 gets AMD back in the game.

 

[Pariah]

New generations overtaking previous generations is the exception, not the norm.

It was the norm up until the P4. Athlon trounced the K6 which trounced the K5. The PIII I don't consider a new generation, since if not for the release of the Athlon, what is the PIII probably would have still been called a PII. The PII pounded the Pentium. The original Pentiums 60/66 had some initial deployment issues, but still trashed the 486 when it came to floating point performance.

 

[AnImuS]

I think i'll keep my current P4 3.5ghz proc

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Pariah

New generations overtaking previous generations is the exception, not the norm.

It was the norm up until the P4. Athlon trounced the K6 which trounced the K5. The PIII I don't consider a new generation, since if not for the release of the Athlon, what is the PIII probably would have still been called a PII. The PII pounded the Pentium. The original Pentiums 60/66 had some initial deployment issues, but still trashed the 486 when it came to floating point performance.

Eventually all do "trounce" previous generations, but Realworld at the time of introduction is a whole different story.

 

[Megatomic]

From the last page of the article: Now that we have seen a good indicator of Opteron workstation performance there is no doubt that we have a glimpse at what the Athlon 64 might do. Initial Athlon 64s will have the same 1MB L2 cache and of course the same underlying architecture of the Opteron. The Athlon 64 will reportedly lose the dual channel memory controller, but will gain DDR400 support. However if reports at the Inquirer are to be believed a 940 pin Athlon 64 will arrive in September, and it could very well retain the dual channel memory feature. Clock speed at launch of the Athlon 64 at launch is said to be 2GHz, and that would equal Opteron GHz if a 246 model does indeed come in August. Athlon 64 boards should have all the tweaking features that current Athlon boards have however which is another advantage for squeezing out performance, and overclocking. And then of course we have the advantages of a 64 bit CPU that we have not even begun to touch on.

I liked what I saw in that review, especially the last page, the text in bold being the most interesting tidbit I gleaned. I need to start saving my pennies, too.

 

[OverVolt]

benchmarks seem weird to me, anyone else have a hard time understand what they were saing and comparing it to the chart?

Like the SuperPi 1mill bench where the 1.6Ghz 242 pwnzored the 1.9Ghz OC'ed 244. Like huh?

 

[Macro2]

You guys got to remember that these are not x86-64 benchmarks. That will be the gravy that makes the Hammer da' King.

That said, it still appears that the Hammer suffers from a lack of memory bandwidth that so many of these benchmarks measure. Some benchmarks are bias toward simply high clockspeed too.

The Opteron gets it's power from RAW IPC. The P4 makes up for it's low IPC with high Mhz and memory bandwidth.

Tastes great-Less filling.........

Also read that the ASUS Opteron board/nforce3 chipset was not the final revision. SOmeone jumped the gun.

 

[Pariah]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Pariah

New generations overtaking previous generations is the exception, not the norm.

It was the norm up until the P4. Athlon trounced the K6 which trounced the K5. The PIII I don't consider a new generation, since if not for the release of the Athlon, what is the PIII probably would have still been called a PII. The PII pounded the Pentium. The original Pentiums 60/66 had some initial deployment issues, but still trashed the 486 when it came to floating point performance.

Eventually all do "trounce" previous generations, but Realworld at the time of introduction is a whole different story.

No, they all trounced right out of the gate, go look at the benchmarks again. Considering the Opteron and Athlon 64 are the same architecture running basically the same software, it would take some amazing optimizations for the stripped down Athlon 64 to be faster than the Opteron. And if it is, AMD is going to be in a tough situation, either trying to convince consumers to spend $800 on a CPU, or trying to convince corporate America to spend twice as much on a slower Opteron.

 

[randumb]

Originally posted by: Macro2
You guys got to remember that these are not x86-64 benchmarks. That will be the gravy that makes the Hammer da' King.

 

[glugglug]

I found those benchmarks quite disappointing.

• Slower than a non-overclocked P4 on a lot of stuff, on benches from a site that is if anything AMD-biased.

• 1.8-1.917GHz is only a 6.5% overclock; yet they couldn't run 3DMark at that speed because of stability issues

• Previous Opteron benchmarks on other boards have been better than this, even on non-AMD fan sites.

Something is very wrong with that NForce3 Pro board methinks. Hopefully they get it ironed out before the 1.03 rev.